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The Death of Godfather Lothbrok. Started by: DanTheMan on Feb 21, '14 00:39

Dan had just gotten back from a meeting with the prominent members of the New York families. Last night Godfather Cantillon and himself, along with all the other captains in New York had been monitoring the head of Philadelphia Godfather Ragnar_Lothbrok. He clears his voice before addressing the crowd on the recent demise of Ragnar.

I know the death of Godfather Ragnar may have come across as...unexpected to some of you and so here I am to get everyone up to speed and give some insight into his untimely demise.

To begin with there was a lot of unhappiness within the NY upper structure with the methods and way in which Ragnar acquired the rank of Godfather.  In ours eyes, he stained the esteemed rank of Godfather with his method of "borrowing" family members from other crews including Cantillions own due to his inabilities to recruit effectively. Second when the man who authed him was attacked (DeadlySpikeS) he attacked and murdered Don Husky, a former member of his family from when he was SpikeS' right hand man rather then help his one time former leader. This was a an odd move, I still don't know to this day why he turned his back on his former family and friends but this lack of loyalty for seemingly anyone other then himself is certainly not a trait we like to see in fellow Godfathers.

We never had any problems with Godfather Ragnar but we thought back to a time when the big alliance of families fought and attacked Solastalgia, Ares and Cantona. Why did Ragnar join in on a war that had nothing to do with him? New York was involved on Godfather Toys orders. (GRHS). Ragnar however had no true reason.. I ultimately assumed he was just friendly with Detroit. After the city of New York killed off Detroit under Godfather Dripple and his captains we thought about Ragnar. Where did his loyalties lie? It sure wasn't with the deceased Spike. It wasn't with New York.

Before people start screaming 'Rumours! Paranoia' etc. It wasn't about rumours. It had nothing to do with paranoia. We simply did not trust him to be Godfather with so many notches on his gun. It was a risk Cantillon and I were not going to take. While many are upset with the move, it was essentially a power play to ensure that Ragnars "gun for hire" could not be hired. As crew leaders when a Godfather with a sizeable gun has no real family of his own, he has no responsibilities. And the lack of responsibilities means he's more likely to become reckless and that was not a risk we were willing to take.   

Godfather Cantillon had originally planned to murder Godfather Ragnar after the death of Godfather Dripple however we urged him to reconsider due to us being in a large scale war against Detroit. We did NOT want Ragnar to mobilize dozens of pro wackers and hitters on Detroits side. We decided to do it at another time. This also allowed us to safely and easily cut off the head without the rest of PH needed to be involved and thus keeping bloodshed to a minimum.

This take down was only against Godfather Ragnar and his right hand, Floki, The rest of Philladelphia are there own entities and will be doing what they were doing before. We will stop forcing the 'pay to go' crew leaders from paying and henceforth become there own families with no bodyguard and HQ restrictions.

It was a tough call to do it then and there but I believe in Godfather Cantillons decision. I am here as his speaker today to inform you all of our reasons. Thank you.

Rest in peace Godfather Lothbrok and Floki.

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'While many are upset with the move, it was essentially a power play'

I applaud the honesty. I do think ragners loyality was by Philly at the end of the day, being a resident of Philly i'm sadden by our Godfathers death but i like to think he rather have died keeping us alive then watch us all be shot.

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Choke shoots a smile to her crew leader. He'd known her rebuttal had been coming all day, he'd surely been expecting it. Always best to expect this kind of thing with Choke around.

I'll get straight down to it, my little Dannyface. We can leave the niceness til we return to the HQ later.

I told you when I first rose from my bed this morning that I disagreed with this. I think I actually called it a fuck up, and I stand by what I said now. Many will question my place in questioning my own crew leader, but he's known for the past 16 hours that this was coming, so I'm not going to worry about feeling too guilty about that.

Now, your reasoning. Not altogether too different to what I heard this morning, but I'll go about asking my questions in my own way.

To begin with there was a lot of unhappiness within the NY upper structure with the methods and way in which Ragnar acquired the rank of Godfather.  In ours eyes, he stained the esteemed rank of Godfather with his method of "borrowing" family members from other crews including Cantillions own due to his inabilities to recruit effectively.

Okay, so you're SERIOUSLY telling me, that there was nobody alive who stained the rank of Godfather more deeply? Not even a deeply inactive Godfather? No? We're okay with people who've obtained the rank and done naff all of note since, except allow others to do their work for them? Dan, m'dear, I know you've been put in the position of doing all the work for a person before. I'm sure you know how shitty that can be.

At any rate, the fact that Cantillion went along with it and is now using it as a reason to kill Ragnar is laughable. Sure, say it was a Czylharz thing, but if Cantillion really found it so deplorable, he should've put his foot down at the time, not had you spew it out on his behalf now. It's quite amusing that Cantillion's level of disapproval has only come to light when Ragnar is dead.

Second when the man who authed him was attacked (DeadlySpikeS) he attacked and murdered Don Husky, a former member of his family from when he was SpikeS' right hand man rather then help his one time former leader. This was a an odd move, I still don't know to this day why he turned his back on his former family and friends but this lack of loyalty for seemingly anyone other then himself is certainly not a trait we like to see in fellow Godfathers.

If we all lived by that logic, we'd all sit and hold hands til the end of time, pretty much. And that, my friend, would be boring as fucking shit. Sometimes you have to put the safety, survival and position of your own people ahead of other things. It's called putting your people first, Dan. It's not like he's the first Godfather in the history of time to do that.

We never had any problems with Godfather Ragnar but we thought back to a time when the big alliance of families fought and attacked Solastalgia, Ares and Cantona. Why did Ragnar join in on a war that had nothing to do with him? New York was involved on Godfather Toys orders. (GRHS). Ragnar however had no true reason.. I ultimately assumed he was just friendly with Detroit. After the city of New York killed off Detroit under Godfather Dripple and his captains we thought about Ragnar. Where did his loyalties lie? It sure wasn't with the deceased Spike. It wasn't with New York.

I hope to Christ that this paragraph is a joke. Because otherwise, I'd dearly love to know why the orders and choice of YOUR Godfather are a reason for New York to join in that take down, but the orders and choice of another Godfather was NOT a reason to join the same war? And why the fuck does he HAVE to have loyalties outside of his own people? He was a fucking Godfather, his decisions and duties were meant for the benefit of his own people. I seriously don't know how you can use that to try to condemn him when you admit in the same paragraph that your own Godfather did basically the same thing. He can NOT be a puppet of New York, but still not be planning your demise.

Before people start screaming 'Rumours! Paranoia' etc. It wasn't about rumours. It had nothing to do with paranoia. We simply did not trust him to be Godfather with so many notches on his gun. It was a risk Cantillon and I were not going to take. While many are upset with the move, it was essentially a power play to ensure that Ragnars "gun for hire" could not be hired. As crew leaders when a Godfather with a sizeable gun has no real family of his own, he has no responsibilities. And the lack of responsibilities means he's more likely to become reckless and that was not a risk we were willing to take.   

If "it was essentially a power play to ensure that Ragnar's 'gun for hire' could not be hired", then, my dear, you badly understand the meaning of the word paranoia.

Choke reaches into her bag, and grabs the trusty dictionary which has passed down through her family. She looks up 'paranoia' and reads out the relevant definition.

3. (Psychology) intense fear or suspicion, esp when unfounded

Had you even heard that his gun was for hire? Who exactly was hiring him? With Detroit out the picture, I'm assuming only one of our own here in New York, or those in Chicago? Are you deeply suspicious of Chicago to the point where they should all fear meeting the same end as Ragnar did last night? 

Moving on from that, I think that it is rather dismissive and offensive of you, both to the late Godfather and to his crew to suggest that he had "no real family of his own" or a "lack of responsibilities". I'm quite sure that at the very least, his crew would disagree with that. I'm not sure Gimli would agree that he did not consider Ragnar family. I do not think that Ragnar ever considered that he lacked responsibility for his district, for his crew.

The fact that you think he showed so little regard for his own people, I think, shows that you deeply misjudged the kind of man he was. I pity the fact that you never got to know him as my ancestors did, if you genuinely thought him so feckless. I know neither my mother, grandmother, and even further back, never saw him in that way.

We will stop forcing the 'pay to go' crew leaders from paying and henceforth become there own families with no bodyguard and HQ restrictions.

Forcing? I'm pretty sure that the promise of auth seduced these 'pay to go' crew leaders into agreeing to those terms. I'm sure, however, that nobody forced them to take auth or those terms. Lets talk sense where sense is due. 

On a personal note. This might be the last chance I personally get to address the streets. I know probably plenty will call for my death for not singing from the company hymn sheet.

Choke shrugs lightly.

Worth it. Dan knew what to expect of me, I made it clear to him before I joined him.

If this IS my last chance to address people. Thanks for everything Dan, truly.

And, in closing. Rest in peace, Ragnar and Floki. You'll be missed.

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I disagree MadButton, I think he would have rather we died and he lived. After all, many sons and daughters would come to replace us and perhaps settle in the city of brotherly love, thus replenishing the ranks whilst the Godfather lived on. And perhaps that should have been the outcome, after all we are meant to be here to protect that person.

Instead we stand idle by whilst the killers removed him from power and stood out in the street to tell us he was nothing more than a stain on the title and a gun for hire. If we are willing to stand idle by and let him be dragged through the mud like that, why then would you think that he should care so much for us as to be glad he died for us to live.

That said, I'm but a little Earner and these are my own simple minded thoughts and quite possibly don't reflect those of anyone else in Philly.

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If this is a power play, then Roberto Carlos' bottom isn't as firm as a juicy orange and I can tell you from the squeeze I recently gave it, it's firmness is beyond reproach. 

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Well josiah you have a gun, happy hunting man. When your dead within an hr you can message me if it was worth it or not. I beg to differ, A godfather is like a parent. They look after you but they have expectations.  He didnt involve us in DT cause he didn't want any of us dieing. He reached out to the CL's of Philly to make sure they knew he was there for them no matter what, from shooting the shit to needing some help. Surprise surprise a name got dragged through the mud after he was killed. Not like thats ever happened before ...If you want to believe he was the selfish asshole they are describing him as then go for it, but i wont.

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So melodramatic as always Choke, I feel like I should address some of your comments since I helped DanTheMan work on this speech and these words and felt strongly that Godfather Ragnars run was at the end. Shall we start at the beginning and work our way down before I "flounce" from the streets and back to handle matters in the Bronx?

Firstly you are entitled to your opinion, as is any other mobster here in New York and I'd imagine any other city. I highly doubt any crew leader worth a damn would want a bunch of mindless, opinion less zombies for crew members. It keeps us on our toes and communication is the best way to ensure and succinct and fluid running crew. 

Your second point, honestly? No. Regardless of what they did with the rank after they EARNED it, they earned the rank. They recruited the required members and fulfilled the other necessities to gain that promotion. Ragnar_Lothbrok had like 5 members for as long as I can remember before finally not even bothering to gain the members the normal way and instead met the questions with "I'm going to do something different when I'm a Godfather." Why wasn't any action taken beforehand, well admittedly one of the reasons was the friendship that the late Godfather ToyArmadillo and Ragnar_Lothbrok had not to mention it wouldn't be prude or smart of Godfather Cantillon with still many of Ragnars friends around to be taking drastic action. However as is the case here and often, mental notes are taken and they are stored and it's a strike 1. I was actually in Cantillons crew when word trickled down (there was no mass mail saying people had to join his crew) asking if "anyone fancied helping out Ragnar." This doesn't sound like the words of a crew leader enthused by the ideals to get Godfather. I called it a joke in the HQs as did many others and we didn't leave. 

Thirdly, your eloquent ways have probably summed up our reasons better then Dan and so I'll just quote them "Sometimes you have to put the safety, survival and position of your own people ahead of other things. It's called putting your people first, Dan. It's not like he's the first Godfather in the history of time to do that." We're doing the EXACT same thing that Ragnar has apparently been doing since he first left for PH yet we "fucked up?" The message behind that was a simple one. How can we trust the word of a Godfather when he so easily turned his back on his own family? If he did it that quickly to them there's no saying what he may have done to Cantillon. 

Fourthly ties in with thirdly really. The ease with which he cut ties with anyone is a worrying sight when this world is built upon politics and allies or agreements if you will to not shoot each other. History has shown us that his word is not to be trusted on either. Considering his size I highly doubt his own people  (like all 5 of them) actually even popped into his head. More along the lines of "I'm gonna shoot someone and need you to pro me Floki." But this is somewhat speculation since I wasn't actually apart of the vibrant crew life in PH.

Fifthly, there's always going to be some paranoia in the life we lead. The demise of much of the Czylharz empire was due to paranoia and rumours, so what do you expect. And generally speaking since NY didn't have need of Ragnars "cap hitting" services, would it not be wise to ensure nobody else can use it? You're honestly trying to tell me you wouldn't take down the only threat to your survival? If you say yes you're full of shit. But thanks for the definition, quite odd carrying round a dictionary..most usually prefer bibles but each to their own. There are no suspicions where Chicago is concerned nor have their been. To my knowledge communications between us have been excellent, not so much on Ragnars behalf..hence the actions. Keep stirring that pot Choke, not quite sure what you're trying to get out of it. Another temporary hand position perhaps?

It is a shame that we weren't as closely entwined with his ancestors as you clearly are, then perhaps myself personally would have known more about the man himself. However as this world should be, nobody gives two shits what you have done in the past. He had the chance to demonstrate the kind of man he was whilst in his Godfathers role but in my eyes struggled and didn't leave any of the impacts on me that he did with your mother. 

I agree with the "forcing" thing, that is probably the wrong word although since victors write the speeches it's inevitable that some words will be twisted to ensure a more favourable look on our behalf. Yes he gave them opportunities they may not have had, clearly his overseeing and advice to his young under bosses hasn't sunk in considering they are already shooting each other. It also inevitably demonstrates that whilst good in theory, they are no substitute for authing fellow, trusted individuals to join you in building a city. 

Finally as someone who knows Dan rather well I highly doubt he'll be shooting you for your words. I guess that's why we made such a great team, he was the nice man and I could be the cunt and so we balanced out. Stay choking, Choke, I look forward to more rivetting tales here in the streets and brand new words to add to my lacking manc mong vocabulary. I should add that I speak only for myself and do not represent the opinions of Godfather Cantillon nor any other New York mobster.

Desmand flounces off..

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Oh Desmand. It astounds me the levels your idiocy has reached, it really does. I've been pulled up about disrespect before, it seem I have a knack for it when it comes to undeserving bottom of the barrel folk such as yourself.

The fact that you do not think it important what a Godfather does after they have achieved the rank, is fucking laughable. Godfathers have been killed, even when they are doing a fantastic job of running a city, yet, to you, it doesn't matter worth a shit what they do? Really, I've never heard such complete and utter shit from a Crewleader in all my time here, and I've seen some pretty piss poor leaders. You've managed to out do them all though, so congratulations on being the worst inhabitant of shit valley.

Onto the friendship of Toy and Ragnar. If this friendship was so strong, and Toy was held in such high regard as people from New York have said, you would have thought his wishes to have held greater weight, even after his death. It took literally no time at all, for his thought and wishes to be completely disregarded, and thrown into the gutter. Nice job.

Ragnar didn't turn his back on his own family. His own family, was Philadelphia. The fact you can't get this very simple fact through your thick skull is just another notch on your incredibly undeserving belt.

Next, you once again lower the bar on your own intelligence. In the same point, you mention making sure nobody can use his 'gun for hire', but the only people who could use it, (other than yourselves (Chicago)) you say you have very good communications with. Who else is there to use this gun for hire? Is there some invisible city that I cannot see? Maybe your imagination completely outweighs your intelligence, and that's what was behind this complete shite of a statement.

Lastly, the fact you try to brandish yourself a cunt is hilarious. If you're a cunt, people might actually be hurt by your words. They might actually take them to heart. You are not a cunt, baby girl. You are more the lonely little boy who cries out for someone to recognise him by only trying to act like some sort of badass. I'm sorry to tell you, it's not working. You're about as harsh and frightful as a fucking butterfly.

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Choke smirks at Desmand. So superior, and always had been. Perhaps one day, she'd ask him for directions - no wait, wait, that was a terrible idea, the poor dumb fuck wasn't capable of giving correct directions between two places she knew, so fuck asking him for instruction between unfamiliar places. Quite how he'd managed to find his way into a bold suit put Choke at a loss, but she'd be truly amazed if he really did manage to flounce back to the Bronx. Perhaps she should order him a taxi, so he didn't wind up in Canada.

Your second point, honestly? No. Regardless of what they did with the rank after they EARNED it, they earned the rank. They recruited the required members and fulfilled the other necessities to gain that promotion. Ragnar_Lothbrok had like 5 members for as long as I can remember before finally not even bothering to gain the members the normal way and instead met the questions with "I'm going to do something different when I'm a Godfather."

And did he NOT do something different when he was a Godfather? Although I personally would not have done what he did, I at least respected that he had the balls to do something different. He stuck to his work, in that regard. 

Personally though, I'd view earning the right to be a Godfather as an ongoing thing. At least Ragnar remembered to show up. That is a pretty key part of being a Godfather, to be honest. You're pretty fucking useless if you aren't here. Although, should you ever choose to not be here, I'd say that'd probably be an improvement.

Why wasn't any action taken beforehand, well admittedly one of the reasons was the friendship that the late Godfather ToyArmadillo and Ragnar_Lothbrok had not to mention it wouldn't be prude or smart of Godfather Cantillon with still many of Ragnars friends around to be taking drastic action. However as is the case here and often, mental notes are taken and they are stored and it's a strike 1. I was actually in Cantillons crew when word trickled down (there was no mass mail saying people had to join his crew) asking if "anyone fancied helping out Ragnar." This doesn't sound like the words of a crew leader enthused by the ideals to get Godfather. I called it a joke in the HQs as did many others and we didn't leave. 

All I'm saying, is if Cantillion allowed his own to help Ragnar reach that goal, and is now turning around to use it to try to justify killing him, it's a hilariously two faced move. And sure, the mafia is a two faced thing, but guys, lets just call it what it is. 

Thirdly, your eloquent ways have probably summed up our reasons better then Dan and so I'll just quote them "Sometimes you have to put the safety, survival and position of your own people ahead of other things. It's called putting your people first, Dan. It's not like he's the first Godfather in the history of time to do that." We're doing the EXACT same thing that Ragnar has apparently been doing since he first left for PH yet we "fucked up?" The message behind that was a simple one. How can we trust the word of a Godfather when he so easily turned his back on his own family? If he did it that quickly to them there's no saying what he may have done to Cantillon. 

So, why not just come out and say that, rather than giving us a load of bullshit lines? Perhaps, I wonder, because you don't genuinely believe that? Because it's a decent excuse to dive on and dry hump? 

If you want to bring in the Czylharz "family" to this - well, God. I think the only way you could study a more fucked up set of family relationships would be to sit down and work out the intricacies of tiggy's e-family. Even I'm not sure who my e-daddy is anymore. And I'm pretty sure my e-brother is my e-son - although, being a Manc, I'm fairly sure that this all sounds quite normal to you. You may actually be the man to help us figure this out!

Godfather Luciano quite easily turned his back on members of his own "family". He's seen several of his own drop now without raising a gun to stop the bloodshed. Our own newly retired ToyArmadillo turned on his own "family" just this week. Indeed, he also waited til it was pretty much safe to do so before joining in a war against another so called arm of this lovely, entirely functional and ever so loyal to each other Czylharz "family", JackRyan. Christ, he felt so safe that time, that he was comfortable with MAILING JackRyan to inform him of his intentions!

If that's a family, fuck, lets start doing paternity tests.

Fourthly ties in with thirdly really. The ease with which he cut ties with anyone is a worrying sight when this world is built upon politics and allies or agreements if you will to not shoot each other. History has shown us that his word is not to be trusted on either. Considering his size I highly doubt his own people  (like all 5 of them) actually even popped into his head. More along the lines of "I'm gonna shoot someone and need you to pro me Floki." But this is somewhat speculation since I wasn't actually apart of the vibrant crew life in PH.

That would be called roguing more than warring, really, would it not? And please, show me where history showed Ragnar had a tendency for that historically. I'll sit here and wait with fascination, right on the very edge of my seat. 

And generally speaking since NY didn't have need of Ragnars "cap hitting" services, would it not be wise to ensure nobody else can use it? You're honestly trying to tell me you wouldn't take down the only threat to your survival? If you say yes you're full of shit.

Here's the difference between you and I. I don't see how Ragnar was a genuine threat to New York's survival. I really don't. At most, he could've killed a couple of people - and that's assuming he was going to succumb to a bout of temporary insanity and go on some kind of feckless rampage, which I've already explained, in my opinion, is a fucking laughable idea. 

That said, I can't wait to enjoy the rest of your crusade to remove all cap hitters who aren't 'Team NY'. And I'm still very interested to know who else you thought might employ these services. For all your mouth, you've not quite managed to answer that question.

There are no suspicions where Chicago is concerned nor have their been.

Again, so who exactly is it you're afraid of? The monster under your bed? The voices inside of your head? The bogeyman hiding in your wardrobe? 

Keep stirring that pot Choke, not quite sure what you're trying to get out of it. Another temporary hand position perhaps?

So, asking a question that you seem unable to answer is now "stirring the pot?" Thank fucking god I didn't ask you for directions then, I'm sure in your little mind, I'd be full on warmongering! 

And yes, temporary hand positions are my thing. Just like being a dick sucker, being a stupid slut, and fucking (possibly all at the same time, I haven't quite established that yet), 4 different male bloodlines are my things.

It is a shame that we weren't as closely entwined with his ancestors as you clearly are, then perhaps myself personally would have known more about the man himself.

That's on you, and is your loss.

It also inevitably demonstrates that whilst good in theory, they are no substitute for authing fellow, trusted individuals to join you in building a city. 

Never having been a fan of contests, I don't disagree with that, however at least he had the balls to try something different, which did not directly backfire on him in life. 

As Desmand flounces off, Choke calls after him.

More arse shake, honey! On a scale of one to BrandonHeat, that's like, a six. You can do better!

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Angelina was lurking in a corner listening to the speech. After hearing her own city mate criticize Dan she steps forward.

I am ashamed that you feel that way Choke. Even though my mother was a casualty in the DT war, I still feel that our leadership did the right thing.

Angelina steps over towards Dan standing beside him.

What Dan and Cantillon did was make sure that everyone of the residents of NY were safe. As a member of NY you should stand by your leadership no matter what.

Angelina turns and looks at Dan and gives him a hug

Thank you sir for what you and the rest of the leaders did these last couple days hun. You have ensured the survival of our city and I stand by your decision.

Angelina steps back into the shadows giving an evil look to Choke. As she walks past Choke she whispers "you should be ashamed of yourself"

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Choke twirls around in circles.

Look at all the fucks I give sweetie.

Look at them, count them! Maybe when you can't sleep at night, you can use them instead of sheep.... no, no wait. That might be difficult. Because I do not give any fucks about your so called "being ashamed of me".

Now. I do not believe that New York were ever in danger from Ragnar. And I told Dan as much, privately. Now, I would fight to the ends of the earth for Dan. I would get into an argument for anybody for Dan. Dan knows that, he's been like family to me before either I or he were born, it goes back generations. You know fucking nothing of that. And part of that, is that when I think he's wrong, he fucking hears about it. He respects me enough to allow me the right to an opinion.

You feel free to continue to be a sad little sheep, grazing away at the party line without question. But don't expect me to give a fuck about whether you think I should be ashamed of myself or not.

Choke steps back into the shadows giving an evil look to Angelina. As she walks past her, she flips her the middle finger and mutters "Chalk on it, love.".

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Now I'm not one for the disrespect going on here but it isn't my place to deal with it.

A lot of effort has been put into the original speech but in my opinion it has been misguided. Donnie on the street corner over there has vome out and said he piece and everyone has applauded him for being so honest. You have put up reasons for your actions but all it has done is open yourselves to critisim and your reasonings shot to pieces.

You say that the late Ragnar had tarnished to rank of Godfather yet can I get clarification of what is and isn't classed as tarnishing the rank of Godfather.

Desmand pointed out when people were sent to him GF Cantillon asked his crew if they would like to help? If he was that against he shouldn't of asked his crew to make a point that he didn't agree with it?

You talk about loyalty to those that helped him get to Godfather but in all honesty his loyalty lies with his city nobody he has to do what he thinks is right for his city like you have done, but while we are on the subject of loyalty, when DeadlySpikeS and JackRyan were warred by Detroit I didn't see Godfather Jake stepping up and running to the aid of them. He obviously has strong ties with their bloodline as their kins are now RH to the city and a district head, does that mean because Godfather Jake didn't show his loyalty back then he can expect to be on your target list in the near future?

Out of interest why was Ragnar's LH not killed?

Lastly it is a great empire you have built in such a short time and a message that has been sent out to others but a word of warning you have sent our world towards a stagnant path I hope you have great plans for this place to keep it vibrant as if history has taught us anything once the stagnation sets in those at the top become targets. Roman and Prem, DeadlyDin and Phil_Steak spring to mind and if you aren't careful in your planning of the future, things could head the same way.
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At least you give logical points and questions for a debate, Spunky.

That's more than I can say for some of the rest who have showed up here, spilling nothing but vile insults because they can't come up with anything else clever or have their voice heard any other way. I guess they have to name call to get their point across when you came out here and approached things a different route. But hey, I guess saying that 'you give zero fucks', but keep showing up for attention is the cool thing nowadays.

Ha....

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Really neat fireworks shoot from the sky as bald eagles swoop up and down the city streets making badass eagle noises while the onlookers well... onlook, in awe no less. An awesome smoke machine goes off while a man jumps up from a sewer, but you don't see the sewer, so it looks really awesome like he just came out of the ground... look you had to be there or else it doesn't sound so cool, but it is. I promise. Also there's like uh strobe lights and shit, look its really great and not my fault that you missed it if you weren't around because this is the kind of thing that kind of just makes you go, whoa, you know? Once the smoke disappears, the figure emerges to be Revan the Ninja no less; he looks around, does a cool backflip and then begins to speak...

Mako, you know what? You're so wrong, buddy. You don't even understand what you're talking about, can you even understand the concepts of which you speak? Do you know the way the wind blows? Because it doesn't really matter to me, which is to say, I do not give a fuck. Not a single. iota. of. a. single. what am I talking about? I forget. Hm. Wait what is this thread even about? Everyone was so busy being a badass that I lost track of everything. Weird.

Revan looks around and notices he is not wearing any special ninja costume and that everyone can see his true identity, and the color boxer briefs he decided to wear today. They're yellow if you didn't know, bright yellow with cute pickles that have people faces, because when you put a people face on a food it makes it look extra cute. Oh, yeah, and they're also striking cute poses because its so god damn cute and honestly Revan is beginning to enjoy his choice of not wearing anything else - its very fashionable, very European. 

So, uh yeah, this is an outrage I say. Uh. So uh don't make this same mistake again, folks. 

The smoke machine starts up again, before sputtering out of control and exploding, Revan flies backwards and falls into the sewer where he lays for a while before gathering himself and running off into the sunset and a bunch of rat shit. So much rat shit, you'd think someone would clean out these sewers or something. They're kind of disgusting. Why isn't there any outcry about THAT?

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At least you give logical points and questions for a debate, Spunky.

That's more than I can say for some of the rest who have showed up here, spilling nothing but vile insults because they can't come up with anything else clever or have their voice heard any other way. I guess they have to name call to get their point across when you came out here and approached things a different route. But hey, I guess saying that 'you give zero fucks', but keep showing up for attention is the cool thing nowadays.

Ha....

You're really going to try to dismiss my entire argument as completely illogical and lacking in questions? And that it's 100% "vile insults" and no substance? No, Mako. Just no. 

I do give zero fucks about what a little asskissing sheep has to say about me, mind. I'm not entirely sure why that dismisses everything I've said as "showing up for attention" though. Mind, a lot about what you've just said, I'm not entirely sure how it's valid. I guess showing up and saying random crap and completely dismissing any concept of an argument because you possibly just can't or can't be arsed answering something that isn't quite to your delicate tastes is the cool thing nowadays.

Ha.....

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Mako, your literacy skills must be lacking in the same way Desmand is lacking in intelligence. Yes, there were a lot of insults in my reply, but the recipient deserved it, and more. Just because they are a crewleader, does not mean I'm going to hold back and stop from giving my very frank opinion. There were genuine topics for debate in there as well, so, I suppose you could say I've added more to it than you have. What have you added to this speech and debate? Nothing? Yeah.

Also, could you maybe grow some balls, and actually talk directly to the people you are trying to insult? Instead of just making snidey little comments about the speech's participants in general. It's obvious who you are trying to get at, just come out and say it. You're a big boy, put your big boy pants on.

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Enough between you four.

I've heard the retorts and the talking for long enough. I appreciate the responses, I do. But keep it civil, all of you.

I apologize for not responding in a more timely matter but I've been quite busy.

I also apologize for my two associates language problems as well.. They're quite lovely but they do take my freedom of speech thing a bit far.

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Sting looks on unimpressed by the bickering in front of him and ashamed of the city taking out a godfather who posed no real threat. He sees a world that looks like it's slowly going to turn into a place ruled by one city that just eliminates potential threats that are not in the city. Sting wonders if this is where he wants to lay his support...........

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Amazing that choke would speak this way to his own leader. It seems people who haven't earned their button sure do have some balls these days
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Her own crewleader. And, forgive me, but who are you, random associate from another district, and where do you get off trying to dictate my relationship with my boss?
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