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| Dirt Off My Shoulders | Started by: Melis on Mar 07, '14 15:17 |
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Okay. There are a lot of random things I find bizarre, so I think i'll just address them all for the hell of it.
Pretty sure the break could have been for as long as you personally wanted? Though I'm obviously pleased to see you here today, I reject the notion that you would have liked to take a longer break because if that was true, you would have. Anyway, moving on from that little point in the speech.. I must admit I've fairly overjoyed with the content of your speech. I've wanted this moment of clarity to reach you for a very long time as you well know that I value you as a person but I've been very frustrated with many of your actions in this thing of ours. This leads me to the ending comment you made;
That for me is the most important comment you made. I know how difficult it would have been to actually apologize for you, so well done on that side of things. I really do hope that people see that you've decided to turn over a new leaf and leave your past behind you and start from scratch, I also hope you stay true to your word and do the same and stop judging others so quickly.
I'm calling bullshit on that AssChicken. People can claim that if they like, but I've never believed anyone to do so. Everyone on some level cares what others think about them, its human nature. Even if your the biggest asshole in the world, you still care if people openly tell you that your an asshole. But still, you have every right to pretend not to care so i'll just accept that as your stance and move on.
He's not mistaken though, is he? It obviously is about what others think as its about what they think of you and the fact you want them to cease thinking of you in that manner. So that point is rather moot.
Except, you can fella. You really can. If you don't have the balls to come and apologise then no, you can't. But if you have the testicular fortitude to stand up and say "OK, I know I've done things wrong in the past..." then for me, Yes, you can quite easily with that ask that people forget your history and wipe the slate clean and move on. I've saw many people manage that. Turning over a new leaf and leaving your past behind you isn't easy, but the first step is acknowledging that you participated in that view and doing something to change it going forward, like others said actions speak louder than words. So I really do hope that after coming out here and showing to the world that she wants to be different from how she is commonly perceived, that she is afforded the chance to be this new person. She can't change if people around her still hold her in that little box, that doesn't do anyone any favours at all. Anyway I think that covers everything I wanted to comment on. The conversation seems to go off on a tangent from the original topic. Good luck with the challenge to change perception, Melis. |
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| Reply by: Tyrion at Mar 08, '14 20:54 | |
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I don't see why this is so unbelievable to you. It is rather easy not to give a shit what people round here think about me. Frankly, and nothing personal meant, they have no meaning in my life. Their factor to me is zero. This makes it easy not to give a shit what they think. People have come to me with "so and so said (fill in the black with whatever dribble said person said) about you" and my reply is always the same. I don't care so neither should they. This is a world unto itself. It is not my world. |
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| Reply by: Mercury at Mar 09, '14 03:50 | |
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This is actually a subject I have much more knowledge of than most Tyrion... you can't. Apologizing doesn't mean jack shit unless you prove you're really sorry and there is no real way to prove it to every single person that doesn't require an absurd amount of effort. Lest you forget that WhereWasI was originally an incognito name, you really should know that I've shown how to change a reputation. Make a new one. One of the people that I used to hate the most, who also hated me quite a bit was Jono... funny what happens when you actually force yourself to at least imitate a new relationship with someone you thought you knew. If you really care so much about changing opinions, just cut all ties... and I mean ALL ties and start anew. You can't ask people to just forget the bad you've done and remember the good. It never can and never will work like that. You want a fresh start, Melis? Go incog and make a new name for yourself. Avoid those that would help you. Make a new you. Don't just talk, or pretend one apologetic action will mend bridges, make a new first impression the only way you can. That also means dropping things that make you comfortable, like street speaking for myself or IRC/being absurdly (not) PP Friendly for many others. |
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| Reply by: WhereWasI at Mar 09, '14 05:32 | |
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For once, WhereWasI, I can agree with you here. On that last post at least. In my experience, the only true way to wash your past is to completely start anew. Yes, you'll have to stop talking to all of your old friends, you'll have to cut every tie you've ever made, at least for some time. It really is the only way. |
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| Reply by: Goku at Mar 09, '14 06:51 | |
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Thank you Goku, I see you also disagree with my "there is no need to simply restate what another literally just said" theory as well but people are allowed to disagree. |
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| Reply by: WhereWasI at Mar 09, '14 07:09 | |
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Who made you all the judge, jury and executioners? She has proffered an apology and you discard it? No one should have to work hard to get in your good graces. You are not all that. There will come a time when you shall seek forgiveness yourself and is Karma has anything to say about it you shall be treated in the same manner.
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| Reply by: Mercury at Mar 09, '14 07:18 | |
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I'm the realist telling her how to actually get people to forget the past if she actually cares about the opinion of others. Your opinion is based off her ability to ignore the opinions of others which she's demonstrated to not actively have at the moment by making this thread. What I'm doing is nice, despite the fact I don't like her. What I'm doing is presenting the blunt answer. If you have a problem with that and think I'm actively judging because I'm presenting a real answer, then tough shit because I definitely don't care about the opinions of others. |
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| Reply by: WhereWasI at Mar 09, '14 07:23 | |
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<i>Lulu watched, distressed that Roberto_Carlos and the others were going out for pizza without her. She sighed, and turned to WWI giving him a huge hug.</i> |
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| Reply by: Lulu at Mar 09, '14 11:08 | |
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I had no idea about that. Though if I did, then it wouldn't have been so incognito. |
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| Reply by: Tyrion at Mar 09, '14 11:23 | |
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| I just have one question for you, Melis. Do you plan on giving everyone else the same benefit of the doubt? In other words, will you see everyone else with the same new and fresh Melis eyes? I'm just curious. Best of luck to you. | |
| Reply by: Myrna at Mar 09, '14 11:37 | |
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Myrna, Yes. WWI Thanks for your advice. I grasp that you and Goku believe that incog is the best way to go about doing so. I do not feel the same way. Everyone is entitled to their opinions of course as it is a public speech that I have apologized on. I do not feel I have more to add as I have said everything I needed to already. As everyone says actions speak louder than words so moving onto that. |
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| Reply by: Melis at Mar 09, '14 11:47 | |
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| Does anyone know how this turned out? | |
| Reply by: AssChicken at Mar 14, '14 14:09 | |
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Me too, Melis. |
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| Reply by: Lurch at Mar 14, '14 14:25 | |
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