There is a ruckus about what i had said about New York. I had said that New York, that you had to suck ass to be able to post in Bussiness Destrict. And those words was not a leader. I had been pointed RHM at a young age. And i shall learn unless otherwise from New York. I moved to detroit because detroit is my home. And i realize the past is the past. But the past can be brought up, and that is only brought up by someone who wants to remember it. And that was me. And all i can say is that im sorry, and will never happen again. But words only say so much. Action speaks louder than words. And so to Defy, and all New York Leaders and members. If you feel like you have to take action, then please do so. There will be no war, and so there shouldnt. But if you don't then from this experience i want to create a relationship. We can be strong. And my son's shall learn my mistake. 

  Thank you:)

Thank you Kobra. You have shown me I found a bright diamond. I see so much of myself in you, well said it takes a strong person to come up and admit you have made a mistake. Respect is very important in this world lets make it clear for the next generation. Carry on.

This kinda sounds like something you shoulda taken up with the people in NY that you offended not everyone in the streets. Maybe could have been a private message to those leaders of New York.

I did. I defend my statements to the death got anything else to say?

Sorry Scorpion but i wasn't responding to you, but too Kobra. 

While i have no clue, or indeed care what you have said or done, do you think that coming to the streets for this shit is the best medium to do so, honestly, really? If indeed you have said something that NY has taken offence to, surely best practice would to be to approach the individual leaders personally and not air any dirty laundry out here.

All this does is potentially stir the pot some more, im lost for words as to why you would make this even more public than it has to be, shocking really and very laughable. Scorpion, God help us all if this is behaviour you condone and actually "See in yourself".

Stir the pot some more? This is not the first time I've seen a public apology on the streets. I mean where else would you make a public apology? Whether you agree with the need for a public apology or not, I can't imagine how a man can come out and admit he was wrong and sincerely ask for forgiveness could be taken as a bad thing. Granted I would like to see it presented better but I don't doubt the sincerity of it. If you feel it was a mistake to present this apology publicly I can't help but think a better course of action would be to make your point as to why and not stoop to belittlement or insults. Those that show effort to honor our ways should receive guidance, not mockery.

While i do agree to a certain extent, something’s are a need-to-know basis and this sir, i feel is one of those moments. In all honesty, i wasn’t aware and in fact am still not any wiser as to what he has said. My point is that exactly, why force the subject, why make more of an issue of it than it has to be (outside of the people who're involved) by bringing it out to the streets.

An apology personally or into someone’s private mailbox will have the same potency, if not an even more sincere meaning, than coming into the streets and repenting for all, when its not really needed, why does it need to be "public", it doesn’t, it simply doesn’t need to be. It serves no better purpose to be out here than it does to be personally to NY uppers.

No matter if you think i have come down to this level, if you step foot out onto these streets, you HAVE to expect a reaction, you HAVE to think people will not agree and offer a different opinion, tis the nature of the beast.

I agree with you space, I don't see the need for this public announcement, that clearly could have been directed to the uppers in NY.  I don't mean to  show any disrespect, but I'm just sharing my opinion.   As what I said before, I don't understand why a public apology was necessary, think it could have been best handled privately between the two parties.  This is just my opinion of course!   

Learn what the streets are for you fucking twat. Tired of you and your dupe of a wife popping around meddling in the streets when you seem to lack any useful information. We don't care about you businesses, if we did we'd visit them in the businesses district. We also don't care about your damn problems, maybe if there were multiple lives at stack then yes. Though that's not the case so take Doug's advice.

I think it was you had to *suck ass* to be able to open a business in the business district rw318.

Visas, i think he meant it sucked ass that he didn't know to post his businesses in the business district, and maybe it sucked ass that no one from NYC informed him on such an obvious thing. Though rw318 your on the ball man. Kobra, you obviously aren't fit to be RHM, hell the S.O.B even committed suicide for the 10th time straigh, you are your own worst enemy it seems and your entire bloodline proves that.

Ceridwen steps into the streets having hear the goings on and deciding to lightly weigh in on the topic. her black dress suit and high polished stiletto heels glistening in the afternoon sun as she stepped slowly onto the speaking box.

"While I won't air my opinions on the events of the past in Detroit or N.Y as those cities are none of my affair, I will give give credit where it is due. I see all kinds of folks shouting down someone for coming to these streets to make an apology and frankly, that is wrong. Could mail have been sent to offer apology to those directly involved? Surely. However, that could potentially be a lot of mail, and the higher ups in our world get enough mail to read. Coming out here and admitting one has done wrong publicly, while a bit on the side of airing private business takes courage and it addresses many people at once without adding to the ads and coupons, and other meaningless things so often found in ones mail. How often after all do we accidentally throw away something important? I know its happened to me on more then one occasion. For what its worth, I see coming out here and admitting a mistake as an act of courage and I applaud it."

With that, Ceridwen stepped down off her speaking box and rejoined the crowd to quietly listen to any further goings on.

In my personal opinion...Kobra apologized for something that he did publicly. As he mentioned it is about a post that he made here on the street. A public apology I think is not a bad way of trying to make amends.