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| The Gato Regime | Started by: Vincent_Zambone on Feb 15, '09 14:38 |
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Vincent along with a few associates confidently walks into the crowded square looking for a good place to project their message, Vincent nods to his associates after which a small break in the crowd appears around him. Vincent clears his throat loudly to attract attention to himself "I am here speaking on behalf of the Gato regime and before I come to the reason I am here speaking to you I would like to say that LouisGato, myself and all in the Gato regime, being children of Detroit are endlessly devoted to the family and godmother Marietta, working hard for the future of Detroit!" A cheer bursts out from the crowd adding more passers by to the crowd "the reason I come to you today is to offer the new blood on the streets places in the Gato regime, the brotherhood in the regime is strong and committed, able men and women who show the level of devotion to Detroit and the want to a part of the regime will be welcomed" With that Vincent and associates leave the crowd leaving business cards on the tables of the coffee shops surrounding the square _________________________________ |Vincent_Zambone | | | |The Gato Regime | | | |Child of Detroit| |_________________________________| +Contact me for further details+ -Vincent- |
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Hmmmm ill take one of these cards and keep it in my wallet along with every other one :) Nice that your doing it diffrent :) |
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| Reply by: DeathKnight at Feb 15, '09 14:40 | |
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| Street advertising for fresh meat, I love it. No really. Just like back home in Sicily....couldn't fucking move for recruitment drives and cards getting stuffed in my face. | |
| Reply by: SwingingBo at Feb 16, '09 02:58 | |
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Is this not a sly form of member whoring? Basically using the streets to gather p the new blood, not know who they are or what their intentions are..don't get me wrong, it's nice to see people stepping up to help the new one's, but to publicly whore them..whatever happened to letting them find their own family and writing their own invite request to see if they were actually worthy, are you just after extra members in your family? because in my honest opinion, I'd rather 5 loyal, hard working respectable mobsters under my wing than 50 worthless idiots who care about nothing but themselves..in other words, quality over quantity. |
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| Reply by: Frankie_Gogolak at Feb 16, '09 03:29 | |
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Let's say we're making a different approach to recruitment. Picking up 'worthless idiots' from the streets has been very effective in that I've found several diamonds in the rough. However there have been many incidents that I cannot afford to happen again with rouge members. This way, those with the intelligence and commitment to walk the streets will hopefully come our way. I believe it was already established that member whoring was extending an invite without previous engaging in conversation. So one of my men have come out to look for runner boys to deliver messages or run the front of my pasta house, better than some of the unrelated crap on these streets |
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| Reply by: LouisGato at Feb 16, '09 04:46 | |
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I say this with all the respect due to a CL.
You are that. One with an apparent disregard of how things traditionally work in this thing of ours.
So you will take any old shite just as long as it means you can pick up a few good guys along the way. Right enough, why bother putting in any effort to root out just the "diamonds in the rough" initially, when you can just scatter gun recruit then find that you have unearthed a couple of goodies in amongst the shite. Why not do it slowly, thoughtfully and end up with an HQ full of diamonds, than one with a poor ratio of diamonds to "rouges"? So, walking the streets now takes intelligence and commitment? My word, how far we've come.
That is your definition, to fit your purpose.
Why are you judging the standard of this by comparing it to all the other crap that litters the street? It's completely irrelevant and actually quite concerning that whether something belongs on the street is based only on whether it is better than the crap already out there. |
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| Reply by: SwingingBo at Feb 16, '09 05:32 | |
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We're making a pro-active move towards recruitment. When I made a speech simmilar to this that took place on the docks and I was offering people work in Detroit no-one said a word against it. In fact it got a few responses from people and we enjoyed standing on the docks, the clouds gathering above and the rabble of immigrants falling from the boats passing between us. Now I can spin a whole load of crap like you just have that details what you are doing wrong here but I won't. One of those things though that I will mention, is fucking respect and I will not have my own words broken down to be judged by some trash that just wants to kick up dust. Stop being afraid of something different and being so ignorant that you must make a scene out of something that needs not be. This is a harmless call out to those seeking work, you read it as you wish but I don't want your opinion. |
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| Reply by: LouisGato at Feb 16, '09 05:48 | |
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LouisGato, sir.. It appears you struggle with people who disagree with you, and hell, I do to! I hate it, but it's life.. I think it's unfair to call it disrespect just because people have chosen to challenge it. I am not saying your wrong by what you have chosen to do, I merely stating that it seems to be a "sly" form of member whoring, your collect, member whoring is sending someone an invite without prior engagement, which is why I called it sly, basically, making out as if you care when infact your just trying to boost your numbers..I'm not saying you are, I am not accusing you of anything sir, just stating something that I'm sure others will question. |
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| Reply by: Frankie_Gogolak at Feb 16, '09 05:54 | |
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Finishing his smoke, Louis takes a brief glance towards the men challenging his regime Signore Gogolak, I understand how it can be viewed, but you know nothing of how my HQ works, the process of things. It is a machine that I have running to enable those with a decent outlook on life and spirit, courage and determination to stay loyal, a chance to make something of themselves. It's what I'm about, it's what I've always been about. Though unfortunatly, since my days as a mere recruitment officer with Don Guardian, those I took time to mould have boiled down to just one, I have since spent time on others as my position grows. I admit, I am the first Gato to these shores, there have been none before me, but I have questions that need answering by none other than experience. I have plans, and I will see those plans through, if people wish to judge me or my men on that though it will not be recived lightly. At the end of the day, I'm not going to be preached at by some aging Soldato who has made fewer street appearances than myself, and I've been busy. |
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| Reply by: LouisGato at Feb 16, '09 06:02 | |
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Challenging something is one thing. Disecting it little by little is another thing, and it is disrespectful. Invites are nothing being sent out, this is to let people know what's out there and if they're interesting, to contact us. Others can question what Louis is saying all they want. Keep those smart ass, negative opinions to themselves. |
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| Reply by: Carmine_Ttrapani at Feb 16, '09 06:04 | |
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Again with all due respect. You'll have to word around my dissecting, it's just easier.
I wish you would, I'd be intrigued to hear more.
There is a difference between disrespect and questioning things. Disrespect might be if I resorted to petty name calling. You're right about kicking up dust though, if I see something I disagree with, why wouldn't I say something?
I have no fear of anything different, infact, new and worthwhile ideas are often a joy to behold. They take the this thing of ours forward, not backwards. Shouting around the streets, putting recruitment posters on lampposts, handing out business cards and whatever else might be involved, to me, sounds like it might get more attention from the cops than it does anyone else. So they say down RP Avenue anyway. Why we'd publicise this thing of ours in such a way is beyond me. If something is on the streets and I feel strongly enough, you can expect my opinion, whether it's requested or not. If no opinions or feedback are wanted, it might not belong on the streets. |
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| Reply by: SwingingBo at Feb 16, '09 06:10 | |
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LouisGato, sir I believe that to be one thing missing from the original thread, and that is a brief description of how you intend to judge these new thugs of ours, are they going to get invited straight away? or are they going to be intensely questioned under the name of Omerta in order to impress you first? Forgive me if I have upset you sir (which I'm sure I haven't), I just feel it needed to be cleared up first which could have saved us all a bit of time and I know you can sit there telling me that you don't have to explain yourself or your actions, which is true, you don't, but perhaps to set the record straight to shut everyone else up? |
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| Reply by: Frankie_Gogolak at Feb 16, '09 06:10 | |
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I am not prepared to disclose how my HQ operates, safe to say I would not be in this position if I had not already proved to have the right attitude towards recruitment. If you wish to get your point across by the means of Role Play Avenue then fine, so will I. This particular part of Detroit is more than safe to open your mouth in, any cops in this neck of the woods would pay little attention to you pulling out a gun and shooting a man in the face. Louis points without looking, directing finger in all directions That guy there? I own him, he's my pig. That shop, is mine, those guys on the corner, belong to me. This part of Detroit is the territory I have carved out when Don Guardian left for Chicago. It may not be the biggest, or the best in the city, but Vincent Zambone is safe to offer work to anyone who needs it. I will not say what that work involves, but I will say that I need a new pot wash. And, I will slap Vincent for using the Godmothers name. |
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| Reply by: LouisGato at Feb 16, '09 06:20 | |
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Much better! The only problem is, I'm not in Detroit at the moment, I'm in Philly and word has reached even here about the recruitment drive. I am pretty sure word is also filtering through Chicago, New York, Las Vegas, New Orleans and Los Angeles. You might have the Detroit cops in your pocket, but do you control them across the states? It might be considered reckless if you don't. Perhaps the other families do, but I doubt you'd presume they would all be kept quiet free of charge. Maybe the Detroit Business District would be more subtle, since you controll that area, who knows. The bottom line is, it's clear to everyone what the purpose of this is. Indiscriminate member boost. The fact your recruitment struggles have come about due to a high number of auths walking our streets is another debate entirely. Since you are in your detroit safe-haven with no concern about what gets shouted around the streets, why not just say exactly that... I want more members, contact me for an invite? Alternatively, if you must dress it up, I expect a man of your resource would be able to have it done with the proper fan-fare a pro-active recruitment drive deserves? Details on what positions you offer (pot wash, front-end pasta boy, delivery boy), what benefits come with it and why exactly this appeals to street bums and civilians? The speech made was little more than a "Hi, we're recruiting, all welcome"....very little originality and effort. Your responses have been little more than a "keep your opinions to yourself". |
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| Reply by: SwingingBo at Feb 16, '09 07:56 | |
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I have made my point, why the interests of Detroit should trouble those outside its walls so much I do not know, but I have said what I need to say, if you feel so strongly about this world maybe you should be more involved in it. And yes, that is my opinion. |
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| Reply by: LouisGato at Feb 16, '09 08:25 | |
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That was one of the points I made, if you are only concerned with Detroit, perhaps you should've stayed in the Detroit-only quarters. Otherwise, take it beyond those walls and you can expect an opinion you may not like, and from those that you might not want one from. I am involved to a sufficient level, a perfect balance if I do say so. Appreciate the concern. |
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| Reply by: SwingingBo at Feb 16, '09 08:48 | |
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Interesting.. I didn't realize we were supposed to start our speeches with an "All Hail Detroit" introduction. Makes mental note.
I can understand that you want new members.. But this is just too much. The streets isn't the place for advertisement.. If people actually wanted to join you guys, they would come to you. As far as I'm concerned, the only relatively valid characteristic your business can offer a new member to our society is... the ability to proclaim your illegal business in the streets for anyone to see. Doesn't seem very nice to be honest. I thought a family's business was kept... within the family. Looks to find more people to speak with... |
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| Reply by: Ares at Feb 16, '09 20:17 | |
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