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My Raison d'être Started by: TheGentleman on Mar 25, '09 09:29
Regardless of what it turned into- TheGentleman is trying to prove his point, and although it may turn into naught I appreciate that he has the guts to do so.
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Its quite clear that your respective crewleaders need to educate some of their flock




Dear god! Your right! This is an awful situation!

Rusko runs back to the HQ and pins up an enormous banner


"Toffee and Bread appreciation classes! Essential knowledge before you can go anywhere near The Streets!"
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haha thanks Boss i will make a note to attend.


On the other point in question about what Crew Leaders are doing about the rogue. It seems to me they are handling it quite well, even i have stolen 5k straight out of his pocket - easy!

Not the most impressive rogue i have seen, it appears he has had little more impact than this thread which has turned into a Bread debate.

Roni leaves to revise bread and confectionary
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And TheGentleman, you claim that you haven't been dealt with. But your profile implies that you were shot at 5 times already. Regardless of the fact that they were misses, you still got shot at 5 times. I'd say that that's as much a response as you could ask from anyone.


Actually, I was referring to the amount of times I have missed, not the amount of times I have been missed on!
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How many of those 5 misses were Pro shots?
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As PR man of this newly elected campaign, I advise you not to answer that.


The official stance of TheGentleman is "No comment."
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Roni_Size

The 5 misses are the shots he has taken and missed, not shots taken at him.
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Fair Fair my bad, misread.
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It's all good, I would hate for anyone to believe this rogue was "strong"
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Stop the shit talking, there is no need. He is a rogue, he will die just like every other before him, save Jonnie_Reese (RIP). There is no need for this stupid banter.


We have a mission to complete. Falure is not an option. We can't be fighting and trying to solve this problem on top of it.


To TheGentleman, see you on the battle field.
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YAY! GO SPROZZA.


whats the big deal. He isnt going to kill anyone. He is just having a laugh. And If I were not loyal to my city and family I would laugh with him. There isnt much leadership from what ive seen other than new york and New orleans, Perhaps LA, maybe Philly. But I havent heard of or seen a detroit leader do anything besides put a 420 K tax on shooting.


<3's Kung
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Mr. Fletcher,


Out of line. I'll speak to you later in the HQ.
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I think the a point we're missing a point here.


Seriously.


Now, TheGentleman, a dear friend of mine has raised a serious moot point.

Has this thing of ours become so sanitised that a Made rogue can go undetected, and indeed, unhunted for 5 hours?


Don't get me wrong, we need some sort of order. However, static order is not progress. Chaotic order was always the most exciting and always will be.


Bring back old school and lets have some proper fun.


BOING!
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I think its just more that no one gave a shit about him. Just another sniveling child that got his ass kicked. So he has to come back and make a stink about it.


Eventually, we got tired of him, and got rid of him.


BONG!
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WT,


I was speaking of the bigger picture. Yes, admittedly he was a useless rogue. He admitted that gladly.


What needs addressing, in my opinion, is the sheer indifference.
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There has ALWAYS been bad leaders, there will ALWAUS be bad leaders.


Everyone's opinion of a leader is different. Some of my blood's most favourite and highly regarded leaders are nothing to other people. There are very few that everyone likes, appreciates and respects.


I can think of one, Turi.


So let's all move on with our lives and wait for the next bit of action to happen instead of arguing semantics.
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sorry to be a pedant, but I don't think anyones arguing semantics.
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TeQ,


he's right.


Semantics are far from the whole point here. Its the Sanitization of something that should not be sanitized.


I think we should take this to OOC as its leaving the realm of RP.
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He was always gonna be a crap "traditional" rogue, but he'd accepted that fact long before he setup. The man had a point and he made it well. A point many people are slowly starting to see these days, plucking their head from the mire.


Note - I am not condoning his actions, but I can see the point.
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No doubt I'll be called biased for my assumptions, but I'm here anyway to have a mere discussion in the streets.

At the time of writing, I have been bold for over 5 hours. Despite the presence of two Godfathers, eight leaders, and countless slanties, I am still alive. What leadership is this?




Since when is a decent rogue (decent by the fact that he survives for more than a couple of hours) evidence of shitty leadership? I always assumed that the survival of the rogue was due more towards a good support system of prowackers and a solid plan of flying/shooting rather than the "leadership" of the day. Any old schmuck can buy an HQ and take a potshots before dying, but it DOES take skill to get the right people in place to keep you alive. I would rather take this as a "success" for you and your team to ensure your survival rather than a "failure" of those in place.

The simple fact is that during the lives of Guardian and Acute, a very simple and straight forward rogue would've been dealt with far before the 5 hour mark.




If you are insinuating that Marietta could be personally blamed for "not dealing with the problem," I scoff at your accusations. There's no appropriate RP method to state this and I apologize for my necessary shot for OOC-itis, but you do realize that both Guardian and Acute were UK-based and at time of posting, you were a rogue for a while before my good family head was even awake? If you are championing your survival skills due to an eight hour time difference, then so be it. If you are placing blame upon those leaders who were actively awake during your bold tenure, then verily those people might be worthy of such criticism.


I have read your speech, but I'm still not quite sure what point you were trying to make through your rogueship. I am, however, sorry to see you go for the time being. I look forward to speaking with you, as always, should your bloodline return publicly.
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