Hello admins

il keep this short and sweet.. Right you sometimes see in war people take shots and then suicide or rogues do the same thing i for one think that if you shoot you should'nt be able to suicide till your timer is up makes cents right?

it used to be that way

Should never of changed just gives COWARDS a easy way out after takeing shoots on people

Exactly Genocide.. Hitler is a perfect example.

To be honest this is the mafia ive never herd of a mafia person suicide in real life. and if someone was to shoot at me i would like the chance to shoot back rather then them hanging from a tree or what ever it is they do

Percival - http://gangsterreport.com/mafia-hit-list-top-mob-suicides/

Ignore number two, because that doesn't actually sound like a suicide. However, the fact that there is a list of the 'top mob suicides' indicates there in fact were quite a few suicides in the mafia.

Also, not a fan of the suggestion. I'd rather someone was allowed to suicide whenever they want to, rather than wasting peoples time who might be refreshing on them and wasting the time of the person who wants to be dead.

Genocide hit the nail on the head. If you don't think someone in the Mafia did something they shouldn't have and commited suicide you just don't know that much about the Mafia. Some of them did it in the name of honor, they were facing long prison sentences and either didn't want to even have the opportunity to give any information out or didn't want to face consequences inside, or just didn't want to die in prison as they were facing multiple life sentences.

I have to dissagree with this one. Making it so you cant take the cowards way out takes away the reality of the situation. Because there always has been and always will be people in the real world who comitt horrendous crimes and then take their own life. Why should it be any different here?

Genocide if "realism" is your reason for objecting this then I assume that you also [In the name of realism] are against the 60 minute cool down on shots? In the real world you don't have to cool down after each shot.

If normal whacking in MR isn't following the rules of reality, then why should shooting and being allowed to directly suicide follow another protocol? A cool down is a cool down is a cool down
 

So draw your pistol quicker and dont give them the chance to kill themself..

Are you saying that you're able to solve a scrambled WS, even with stars, locate the shooter and shoot that person within three seconds? 


I like the idea. A short period [perhaps 30 minutes] of cool down before being able to shoot again. 

...you just don't know that much about the Mafia. 

 afghanmango enlighten me please, did the hitmen working for the mob, take 60 minutes between each shot and cool down their nerves? 
I am assuming that your answer is "no", so why is there a 60 minute CD on shots here in MR?
If there is a 60 min CD here, why shouldn't there be a short CD period between random wacking and being able to use that gun on yourself? 

Exactly Genocide.. Hitler is a perfect example.

Smoke, in case you missed it, Hitler didn't commit suicide as soon as WW2 started or when the first person was gassed to death in one of the camps.
There were plenty of opportunities to kill him.
Your comparison doesn't hold up.

I was saying that directly towards the suicide in the Mafia. I wasn't bringing in any in game timers or anything about game play whatsoever. Percival stated that Mafia members don't commit suicide, I stated that yes they in fact have another person even posted a link to what I assume is history on some mob members committing suicide. Your statement is entirely based on game play where as mine were directed at a user on real life events? It looks as if you are just picking out small statements from those that have posted here and twisting them pretty far from the actual meaning/point Deadlock.

That people will commit horrendous crimes and then take the easy way out.

Are you sure? Stalin didn't take the easy way out. Nor did Pinochet, Polpot or Saddam Hussein. 

Are you seriously labeling the action of a CRIMINAL attempting to shoot another CRIMINAL for a "horrendous crime" and compare it and the aftermath to what Hitler did during his reign? 

 

suicide does not use the wack timer because simply put you are not wacking you are suiciding, you do not need auth to suicide ingame so why would it use your wack timer

perhaps change the suicide text to something not involving a gun (i dont know what the text is now for suiciding btw)