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| GAME CHANGE: Hitlist Reason - Reversal of Anonymous | Started by: Squishy on Dec 09, '14 03:43 |
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Starting from this point on, we now track anonymous hits on the hitlist. If a hitlist is placed where the reason posted has passed the line of what is acceptable, then the hit may be cancelled, or, if severe enough, reversed so the hit is now on the poster, as well as other possible outcomes such as jail time, admin wack, banning, or a combination of some or all of them. |
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Could you give an example? Personally, I've never really seen any hit that I felt was below the belt - so it would be handy to have some kind of guideline. |
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| Reply by: P_habulis at Dec 09, '14 05:32 | |
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01:30AnonymousCristiano_Ronaldo$200,000Yeast Infected Herpe Wart(Get Auth) (Buy Off) I think something along the lines of this is actually totally unacceptable not just on myself but any player. Thank you Izzy I love the change. |
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| Reply by: Cristiano_Ronaldo at Dec 09, '14 09:17 | |
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I just view that as an insult (a poor one). Mobsters often insulted one another. I see no harm in offensive words, as long as it isn't a personal attack on a person's gender, sexual orientation, race, etc. I'm not trying to antagonize anybody - just looking for some clarification. |
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| Reply by: P_habulis at Dec 09, '14 10:10 | |
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Rather than bring the while police state mentality even more into the game why not remove the reason entirely. Obviously the person is offering this as a reward because they want the person dead. More than that shouldn't matter. From an RP perspective the person accepting the job doesn't care about the why just the cash. The why only serves to fuel IRC bullshit. rather than having to put yourself in the awful position of having to decide what you think is within the line or not, remove the aspect from the equation making it more logical and less of a headache. |
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| Reply by: VForcedMeToSignUp at Dec 09, '14 10:20 | |
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| I actually agree with removing the reasoning for hit lists it seems hit lists are most often used to send messages anonymously and in my eyes that would be a misuse of the hitlist system cause in the good old days of the mob no one really cared the reason someone had to be shot they just knew it had to be done and they were to receive a payout. If someone wants to post a reason make the coward come off of anonymous to do so. It'll not only remove admins from making a decision of what is acceptable it'll help the player base basically self moderate themselves if they do not wish to die | |
| Reply by: Liam_Neeson at Dec 09, '14 11:26 | |
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| Aye I agree I think Anonymous hits shouldn't have a reason if someone wants to hide behind a door then let them without an explanation. | |
| Reply by: Cristiano_Ronaldo at Dec 09, '14 12:17 | |
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maybe the person putting up the hit .. can enter a reason that cannot be seen by anyone except the person oin the hitlist if they get shot.. like a final whisper or some shit I dunno |
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| Reply by: StripheGotti at Dec 09, '14 14:47 | |
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As far as some examples go: Would this get removed if you made it into a thread? Would this get you killed if you made it into a thread? If yes, then don't use it as a Reason. If no, continue on.
Bashing someones real life physical being, their race, their religion, their health, their sexual preference, and so on... Things that would get you punched the fuck out in real life - its a line that we are all aware of. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Dec 09, '14 15:33 | |
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Never understand why people act the way they do behind a keyboard. Great change. |
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| Reply by: Ajani at Dec 09, '14 20:24 | |
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I am really sad to see more discretionary ban hammer power given to administrators without clear guidelines. It would appear as if they have completely chosen to ignore the suggestion by not even acknowledging it :/. If you aren't open to suggestions then why not just make announcements a moderated thread. *shrugs* To not like the idea is fine but to completely ignore it is just rude. |
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| Reply by: VForcedMeToSignUp at Dec 09, '14 21:03 | |
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When I think an idea isnt a good fit, sometimes I sit back and wait for others to comment on it. This way my thoughts do not sway others decisions and I can get a better feeling of how others feel. If I see a few people come out in support for it, then I rethink its value. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Dec 09, '14 21:25 | |
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I not saying anything about anyone it's just my personal opinion that a hit list does not need a reason of any sort. Amount of money placed on someones head should explain their worth. I do however think that if hit listed it should only be once at any given time, until that hit has been claimed or bought out. These are just my thoughts that might be like some others here. My Quote "it's hard to flip a profit when the police own it all" |
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| Reply by: Four20 at Dec 11, '14 00:34 | |
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Four20 I think a reason should be there.
Take the following scenario from the perspective of a hitman: You generally don't get out of bed for under 5 million.
Someone posts a hit for 4 million... but its Mother Theresa, a saintly person who has harmed not even a fly in her lifetime. Do you shoot? Someone posts a hit for 4 million on a guy named JoeyDouchebag, well below your price. But this dirty motherfucker breaks into Retirement Community homes and robs all the jewelery while the elderly are out on their Sunday trip to church. Last month Agatha wasn't feeling up to the trip so she stayed home. He did not expect this and was surprised when he broke in. He bound, gagged, and violated the 93 year old. When he was done he urinated on her just to show her who was boss. Agatha committed suicide the next day. The cops were close to catching him one day, but he evaded them after shooting 22 year new father rookie Officer Brian. When they finally brought him to justice, the case was thrown out due to a technicality and he walks free today and continues to leave a trail of broken lives everywhere he goes. He takes pleasure in this. Do you shoot? Reason makes a world of difference. Lets not take away the backstory from hits just because a few people can't express themselves properly. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Dec 11, '14 00:47 | |
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reasons are all well and good....so long as you cant hide behind an anonymous name.
to answer your questions squishy about shooting id shoot both of them both for fame of killing mother theresa and for justice in killing mr douchebag |
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| Reply by: Liam_Neeson at Dec 11, '14 01:42 | |
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I agree with the idea to just remove reasons from hit lists. If you are a hit man you don't give two shit about the reasons, you are in it for the money and at the end of the day the reason hits are even worth considering or appealing is for how much money you can score out of them. Now everyone here is guilty of something. We are all murderers, thief's, drug dealers and the list goes on. We do not need a back story of why the hit was placed because we all already have a back story. Even if Mother Theresa was here giving credit codes (or whatever) to people she ain't no different then JoeyDouchbag, at the end of the day they are both slinging drugs, they are both stealing purses. (you guys get the point) So in conclusion, everyone is dirty which in turn makes hit list reasons irrelevant, it's 100% all about the money. |
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| Reply by: CatBug at Dec 11, '14 06:23 | |
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I'm gonna have to agree with Liam here. Reasons for posting a hit are great - if it's from someone I trust. I wouldn't just accept a hit from an anonymous source unless it's completely about the money. If I don't know who they are, I have no reason to believe their reason is even real. Just my two cents. |
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| Reply by: AmyPond at Dec 11, '14 06:37 | |
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Even if the reasons are from someone you trust the reason itself is still irrelevant. You will still only take the hit for the money. |
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| Reply by: CatBug at Dec 11, '14 06:43 | |
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A hit man only cares about the money if the family allow to take the shot. The problem is you might as well kill yourself after taking a shot at someone because they'll kill you when they Rez. I've seen some strange hits out there, the dumber their reason the funnier. Their dumb comments don't bother me but it always bothers me that there needs to be a reason to kill someone. I just can't get used to the idea of a reason. |
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| Reply by: Four20 at Dec 11, '14 17:39 | |
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