I also find it quite funny that the leaders are vilifying bloodlining but continue to judge people (like Barqs) for their ancestor's action? Clutching at straws indeed.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here, I see 4 people that have taken my little speech a little too much to heart, one of them now lies next to his forefathers in the cemetery, would you like to be the next one?  After all, paranoia is bad for business you know?

It is nice to know you only hear the words you want to hear.  Paranoia, is bad for business.  These words are quite important to the entire statement and how it is interpreted.  If you choose to not hear them then indeed that statement becomes somewhat ambiguous but the simple fact of the matter is I did say them.  This somewhat negates your argument and leaves you as the one who is "clutching at straws".

I also wasn't judging Barqs, I merely suggested that had his father been a little more verbose, hell, had his Chairman been a little more verbose, then we "might" have been able to avoid the Vegas massacre.  Had I wanted to vilify him I would simply have accused him of something truly horrific.  You seem to have a quite a wild imagination, perhaps you can come up with a few suggestions for me just in case I ever do need to vilify his bloodline?  Seeing as we have not blood lined anyone however, I can't really see the need for this, save your brain cells, lord only knows you need them. 

As Dollface enters the conversation she thinks to herself, Why are they still even a topic?

They can not hurt what has been built and worrying about them only gives them power, be loyal, work hard and do what your told is the Mafia way. The dead are the dead and a new chapter has begun as of Dec.30th.2014 

I have no connections with 303, I guess I wasn't important enough or cool enough to be in their clique. sucks for them. 

Loyal to Chicago 

~Peace out Dollface

Shingo, 

It is probably worth pointing out at this point that every single other Godfather was consulted on this speech.  Every single other Godfather signed off on this speech and every single other Godfather is behind this speech.

Blood lining?  Give me one example of any of us blood lining........anyone.  Please, humour me.

I don't recall saying you had blood lined anyone Godfather Kelly_Kapowski. I said (and I quote) "you plan to stop bloodlining..by bloodlining?."

This was based on your comments (and I quote again - naturally): 

If these idiots insist on blood lining our people, no matter how many chances we give them, then we have little option but to return the favour. 

So to clarify as per my earlier comment (I'll quote again just to be safe) - "you plan to stop bloodlining..by bloodlining?." I'm not a funny man, alas, so I probably can't humour you like some kind of Barry related forehead joke probably would - or something? Hold on. What's big and a head and called Barry? Barry's forehead. How was that? 

Apologies Godfather Kelly_Kapowski, I know I speak quite fast sometimes and it can be hard for some people to keep up. I guess I'll just have to catch my Queen and Godmother next time she inspects proceedings and get some clarification on the matter. It's naturally often hard to disagree with a gun pointed at your head though wouldn't you say Godfather Kelly_Kapowski?

Shingo clears his throat. 

That's not to imply that any such gun was pointed at anyone's head. Just thinking out loud before I'm ousted as some kind of fabricator of stories. I wasn't privvy to the meetings or the thought process due to my lowly Goomba rank so I have no idea how it went down. 

Tips his hat to Godfather Kelly_Kapowski. 

Kelly, my father protected you from being bloodlined, because you honestly should've been shot the first time you called someone a "cunt" in DL Avenue, but Mako said no and let it slide. My father protected a lot of his former district to make sure that his district was a safe haven for rejects, basically. He took in people that others didn't want to put up with, because you all were a pain in the ass to them, but not specifically to my father.

Is this how you're repaying my father? Are you going to be bloodline me for being a son of Mako? If you don't remember him, he is the guy who covered your asses and protected you, and this is how you thank me? Get fucking real..... If you think that "Lollipops" (Sorry, not actually allowed to ever say the name or admit I was apart of it, because of... well, bullshit reasons from the Gods) is organizing shit against you, then you need to step back and realize that 99% of them have left this shithole, so the people you're killing are irrelevant. 

But this honestly baffles me that this is coming from people from my father's former district. I expected better from them and didn't raise them to bloodline friends of friends. I'm stunned that you guys have sank this low. You've already killed friends of my fathers for no reason, so why don't you finish the job? Kill Cassi, BigBlack, Tish, Jono, daughter of Draven, Ajani, Maria, son of LouisMan, daughter of Annie, Piglet, Hei, son of Roberto_Carlos, yourself, and anyone else that my father ever raised in The Loop. AND THAT'S JUST THE LOOP. Because let's face it, my father made you. You would all be dead if it weren't for him, but now you want to be like the people you killed? Jesus fucking Christ. What the fuck did any of you actually learn from my father? Because it certainly wasn't this bullshit. If any of you actually knew him, you know he didn't stoop this pathetic of a level, or else Ajani would be dead for being friends with a douchebag (Bjorn), and Kelly for calling people cunts in DL Avenue. Did he? No. My father built that district and he didn't build you guys to be the next group of fucktards to run through this country. He built you to be opposite, so wake the fuck up. 

Disappointed all around in you all. Especially the man my father pushed to be the next Godfather of The Loop. You guys are better than this bullshit. 

Just came back to say that, peace out.

Nice joke, Shingo.

Peace out, Ok.

Well that and because I'm a sucker for the sight of someone tooting their own horn.

You guys are killing friends that are connected to me and my father in general, right? I expected the response to be about me/my father and my/and my fathers feelings towards what I see from those that my father raised. Generally speaking, since it involved my father's district it also involved thus: My father. Is that too much tooting for you? Perhaps I can fart louder? No tooting, to be honest. It's not what I expected from my father's group, and sorry that involves me.

So, please, another spam or are you actually going to give me something to work with? I'm normally always privy to a debate with you if it's worth some substance and not just some one line bullshit.

Shingo referenced me by name, hence my visit, and you said you were going after you had said your piece and I was essentially saying don't let the door hit you on the way out as I don't waste much energy on people taking a steaming turd on everything before exiting. If in reality you aren't leaving and you're going to stand around and discuss the merits of this, then fine, but don't just drop the gospel according to Ok and then say you're leaving this "shithole" if you actually expect a discussion to transpire.

Anyway, as I'm here now, how "your father's group" are behaving is a reaction to what they are being subjected to. Are they supposed to just sit back and smile as petty little dicks kill who they please without reprisal? Is that what would make you happy? Is that what your father would have done? I doubt it. So now "your father's group" are putting the responsibility back on the petty little dicks themselves. Leave your idiotic vendettas in the past where they belong and everything will be rosy. Pursue them and a blood debt will be exacted from whoever can be found to extract it from. I don't think there is any ambiguity there, it actually seems remarkably clear cut to me. If you care about your friends, grow the fuck up and move on.

But as "99%...have left this shithole" I guess it all academic anyway. Right. 

Ok, in multiple places you have claimed to have ‘made’ me. I find this statement absolutely hilarious, I honestly think the power of your father has gone to your head and you have become delusional. I also would have thought it was clear from my mother’s last conversation with your line that we are not friends.

I do owe thanks to someone for ‘making’ me, it’s the same person who brought my line here and you are not him.

You need to pull your head out of your arse and grow up. People are only willing to tolerate your bullshit for so long.  

 ‘If you think that "Lollipops" (Sorry, not actually allowed to ever say the name or admit I was apart of it, because of... well, bullshit reasons from the Gods)’ this sounds very much like you are accusing the gods of something here Ok, I must be mistaken though…right? 

I would agree with you when saying his father's power made him delusional; but when he was alive. Your line is indeed one of them that were protected by him. He should have let a lot of people die, but he didn't.

It's all a bygone age, but one that was oh-so-goddamn interesting. 

And it sounds like he's accusing the gods of no longer being able to state that he was part of a certain group, yes.

Ok...I have not read/listened to any of the responses(depending of how into RP you are) but from an amateurs POV,this seems like a legit response. If you bloodiline us, we will bloodline you. Why there should be so many responses, I will never know.

Yeah, that does sound legit/fair/logical.

Take that as you will but believe me, the next time one of ours is blood lined, watch how the leadership in our world come together and take action against those we know to be responsible, their friends and anyone they even once viewed as a potential friend

Last bit, eh I dunno. Seems a bit over-the-top to me.

But fuck it.

Enjoy the ride! 

Curtis listened to all the participants in the lengthy discussion and decided to try and add a little clarity to some of the lingering confusions.

"Ok. So in the hopes of clarifying a few points, I'll put this as simply as I can:

This issue has arisen from a group of people's repeated murders of specific mobsters, for no reason other than their bloodline.

The collective name or association of this group is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the repeated murderous actions that unify them.

All of these people have been given numerous chances to let bygones be bygones and move on. 

Each time they have elected not to do this and have resumed their backward vendettas.

It was decided that passive, patient action toward this was resolving nothing.

Action was decided upon that will be a brutal and reactive action to each further bloodlining murder we are subjected to.

If there are no further bloodline killings, there will be no reactive retribution. 

For each bloodline killing we are subjected to, every known participant or assistant in this group's actions will be executed.

This will happen every time until this horrible behavior ends and our society is allowed to continue as it should.

If you want to point fingers, point them at Cristian's bloodline. It was that genius who was the straw that broke the camel's back."

He looks around and moves on to make a point.

"This thing of ours is cyclical. Your grandfather kills my grandfather. My father comes to our shores and becomes friends with your father. And so on, and so on. This is how our world works. Its a long game, not a short one. This thing isn't a one off, its about generational bonds and friendships between lines stretching and evolving over many generations.

I can tell you, right now there are people I am working with who I have never worked with before and I'm happy to have the new experience. There are people working with me now who my forgathers have killed several times and there are people working with me who have killed mine more than once. Our professionalism and indeed our enthusiasm to work together now is undiminished for this history. If anything it is richer for it.

To have an entire bloodline's participation in this multi-generational experience, completely snuffed out and ended due to a relentless and reasonless vendetta, is a criminal waste. Please let it end. "

Katniss shakes her head and sighs almost silently then walks over to all the commotion she had been trying to stay out of and then. Walking over to OK she stops and looks at him.

OK.. There are many things that you have stated that I could have at one point stood behind. Since your fathers leaving I can no longer stand behind any of it. Your father was a great man to The Loop, my grandmother, Ajani, Kelly Tish and so many people. My mother did watch as somethings were done that weren't ok with the gods here, and because of you and some in your groups own actions the gods displaced your father from this world.

My mother and a few others pleaded and begged for you to make amends with them to which you made things worse. A few in your group did, after you left, watch over me and many others in the district. Not all of your group is bad. She looks down at the ground and shook her head.

The problem is that some won't let things go. I can't blame them as I too still hold my own grandmothers rage at the circumstances around her death, but have I bloodlined anyone? Would I love to you.. yes.. but sadly my own mind and heart won't let me. Perhaps I wish that some in your group had the same feelings and heart that keep getting the rest of those that are hard workers and great people to be around killed. You want to point the finger at Kelly or Ajani or anyone else, but you refuse to look in the mirror and see.

I have been bloodlined and a friend with me just because they were my friend, and god damn it sucked.. It sucked so badly, but you know I forgave the individuals doing it. I never went after them, I never kept going after them.. Hell look at Christian.. I have two times now.. once he got an entire city I so cared about killed all because I trusted him.. and the second time well ironic he trusted a two year old.. But some in your group do seem to be bloodlining individuals, and with that they are dragging all of your group in it.

Perhaps maybe, just maybe, those in the group that are the individuals that once looked after TheLoop so very much and were great friends to a lot of us will be again, and the group that once was in power will stop getting murdered. I can't see that day happening until the individuals in the group causing issues stop. That's not on those in this community son of Mako.. That's on your group sadly, and even some in your group realize that. They might not like it but they do see it.

She shakes her head and looks for a glimmer of the man that her grandmother spoke of and shakes her head at not seeing it.