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A Vouching System - Factory Ludus, Brooklyn NY Started by: Batiatus on Feb 10, '15 04:07

Hey AcaelusThorne.

While I appreciate your word of thought for the rest of us to hear. But from what you perceive my boss is from his actions, is the exact opposite of what our crew standards are and I believe what the majority of this community wants. We want a trusted mobster, one who is loyal. This deception fella, joins our crew claiming to be new, I usually take their words for it. However a fresh individual who has hired that many bodyguards within practically the first day, which means he is earning millions within the first day, I don't believe him. You may believe him but we don't. Even so if he had just kept quiet about it and just claim to be new within the crew, I believe our boss would have been fine with it, to a certain point. However he took matters into the streets trying claim to be new for our community to hear. People will then hear questions like "Does Batiatus really believe he is new he has earnt millions has hired many BGs and has information on TylerDurden". We knew you were shit talking from the start. Our family puts TRUST infront of MONEY. You don't get made by earning money. You get made by earning our trust. So to answer your question

" but is the moral of this story that even if you donate millions and try to put in your two cents the great Batiatus will toss you out to the streets? "

We will do in 1 million times over, every single fucking time a member is untrustworthy. 

I respect you for trusting Deception, and I wish him a great time within your family. 

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Yes AcaelusThorne you are correct. You cannot string curses together as artfully as I.

Deception was not dropped because he gave his two cents in the streets. He was dropped because I did not trust him. I did not believe him.  No one in the circles I run with believed him. If you believe him, then I wish him nothing but good fortune in Chicago, and if I was mistaken then the loss is mine.

As to whatever other nonsense that fell from your mouth, the man was released from my Ludus and the leaders across the great cities were notified and given my blessing to take him in if they desired. He is currently alive and well. Hardly a heinous fate, so spare me your absurd interpretations

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Fist-O listens to the speech and some of what others were saying.  Particularly the last two posts.  Be didn't want to say much for he wasn't even made yet but he felt he needed to put a few words in.

Well, if I may, I just want to say Batiatus this is an interesting system you have going and I can't wait to see how it turns out.  I'm sure it with be a success.  Now, with that I would like to say that yes you do need to trust your members.  Believe in them and what they say and if you can't do that then each family has their own right to do what they will with them.  But I ask you when will enough be enough?  Is it paranoia?  Be careful with that stuff if it is.  Paranoia will eat you from the inside out and then who will you trust?  And now on the other side if you're too trusting you could be dead in the water.  So where do we drawl the line in the sand?  Well I personally don't know exactly where I drawl it but so what if hes got a lot of body guards?  He could have gotten his hands on some credits and sold them on the market.  And if he's not really a new blood line so what?  Maybe he just wants a second chance.  Maybe hes not perfect.  I dont know if he is or not but then again I dont knkw him that well to assume such a thing.  What I'm saying though is I can understand both sides and its a delicate line to walk much less drawl a line in the sand on.

Hail Batiatus!  I actually am excited to see that a family wants to try this and I'll be spectating from a far.  Sincerly hoping the best of luck!

Fist-O clinks away walking with his metal legs only to get it stuck in a drain pipe.  

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Greetings Fist-O-Pain, and gratitude for bringing this point to the discussion. Be it caution, paranoia, or just the desire to give the practice a try, time will tell if will be successful or in my best interest to proceed with it. And while I stand in agreement with you regarding paranoia, I prefer to call it a greater sense of awareness.


As to your other points, my distrust in this instance went beyond the of hiring bodyguards, as I imagine you are wise enough to recognize. Regarding the possibility he or anybody for that matter might be of a bloodline looking for a "fresh start" or second chance, I have already addressed this point earlier, but being you are just now joining the conversation, I do not mind repeating.


I have no issue with people that wish to be clandestine so long as they are upfront with their intentions. I have members in my Ludus operating as such now. But people will provide their lineage or a name of somebody who can vouch for them, or they can seek second chances elsewhere.

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Well Shingo, so you like the Rock's story? Good for you jabroni. However, the Rock thinks you need to worry about your own intellect rather than addressing the Rock's very much superior intellect. As you have witnessed, the Mighty Batiatus has decided not to answer your question. The reason for this is simple, The Rock's story was the truth. Sure The Rock may have embellished it slightly to entertain the millions... and millions of the Rocks fans, but the core kernel of truth is there and apparent to everyone but you. The Rock could just imagine what you were like in High School! The oldest 27 year old senior the world has ever seen! Standing outside your house with your momma, and that short little yellow bus pulling up in front - beep beep, beep beep, beep beep! You just walk in on the bus, go into class, get inside the classroom, teacher up on the blackboard

"Ok class, what is 2 + 2? Do you know Shingo?"

"Oh yeah I know the answer to that, 2 + 2? Thomas Jefferson, sucka!"

The Rock believes the People can also clearly see where that waft of shit your are smelling is coming from. Its that 5'6", 140lb sack of monkey shit called Shingo, running his mouth and trying to trash talk the Rock.

Chris smiles sweetly and nods respectfully, before carrying on his business of kicking jabroni's asses.

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