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I Dont understand Started by: -canine- on Nov 11, '07 10:01
I don't understand the ways of our streets. From the time I was a thug and just started in our way of life, it was my understanding that we all should strive to rise in the ranks and if the ruling families saw fit to auth us to run our own family.


This is what confuses me -- A wise guy was just authed. Nothing against him/her as I do not know him/her. Now there are numerous capos and made men that are in the streets. If a wise guy is the person most deserving of auth why were these made men and capos promoted to the ranks they now hold if they are less responsible, less trustwory of the ruling families than a wise guy. If the ruling families thought a wise guy was the most deserving to be authed then why are not the higher ranks reduced to the proper rank that fits what the leaders truely think of them.


A wise guy being authed over capos and made. Something is wrong with this picture I think.


Obviously I am missing something. Will someone please explain the promotion system to me and the auth system because I simply don't understand it.
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You see Canine..

Becoming a Made Man means becoming a full member of the family, a member of la Cosa Nostra. It does not necessarily mean that the person promoted to this rank either wants to, or is qualified to run their own family.

A boss who promotes someone to made or above trusts this person to be a proper member of the family, its an honor and something special.

Running his own family is a totally different story.

It has not as much to do with rank as you might think it has..
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Nothing is as it appears these days man.


What is deemed right and true to some,is tossed aside and avoided by others.This is a grey area that is discussed usually in aheated ebate about whether a thug should be a RHM of a crew.Well this is a lot more serious as it is a whole family that is being run here.There is nothing at all wrong with a lower rank being authed before a higher ranked player.rank does not mean diddly squat unless you have truly deserved it.i have seen alot of different families where in one you had to do everything in triplicate and give up a left nut to be promoted to made man.In other families high ranked promotions were given out like candy on halloween where the leader could not tell you three things about the person in question.Now this wiseguy crewleader may be the best of the group to be authed.i dunno as we have never spoke.And if we did his auth would be none of my concern.The higher ranked guys may be bitter or not.if they have a complaint I am sure it will be voiced.My only problem is that i am a mafia purist.or at least I try to be as much as possible.This new crewleader has been given auth before he has even proven himelf able to become a made man within another family.So in a way I am confused as well.But seeings as this is not my family nor my city nor my business,I am just gonna say to you.Stay confused and wait it out.we had wiseguy leaders and nothing but awhile back and nobody said a thing.As they were all wiseguys.i would prefer a wiseguy Cl with some skills than a Don with no ambition or smarts to get the job done at all.let thier actions prove thier worth.....and toss the guidelines out the window for now.
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Well in this case it's not that the capo's & made men where by-passed for auth, this was Cthulhu allowing one of his own family to setup beside him in his city. Now if you take a look at Cthulhu's family he has no made men. Seventh has been given a family but not a city, this is still a great honour for Seventh & wish him/her good luck.
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If a leader chooses to allow a family member to set up in their city, that is their choice. The other leaders do not help decide this...


As has been stated, this is a New York auth. Cthulhu does not have anyone Made Man or higher so he went with someone he felt would be a good addition to New York.
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Ok fine, he does have a Made Man... Blargh... Why am I here again? Oh yeah... To appease the masses and be present and active in the Streets... To help a fellow leader out when he is being called out for a decision he made that he felt was in the best interest of the city he runs..


Would you rather see new people fresh off the boat dying before they have a chance to experience this thing of ours? Point is.. We need room for them to go and this is how Cthulhu felt he could help out with that problem.
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Perhaps I'm the one confused here because I do not see some dark tenebrous issue at all. All of our cities have experienced rapid growth and we must rise to meet the challenges that this urbanization entails, i.e. housing and employment shortages. We have heard for days here in the streets the clarion calls for both someone to take care of the newbloods, and new faces to help us lead the cities. Now that moves for salvation have been made, the cries turn to slings and arrows. Typical.



I am obligated to New York and its citizens to do everything in my power to meet the challenges that are presented head on. Myself and our family are doing everything we can to make our little corner of the World a viable and successful city. In doing so we must address the need for more opportunities as more citizens move in. I am ultimately responsible for all that goes on here and realize that any move I make is circumspect. I accept this, as I accept responsibility for this cities future.



Your problem seems to lie in the fact that I chose someone from within my own family to help me in achieving my goals. That we had up to this time only WiseGuys is a moot point. I have selected an individual who shares our mission and cares about our city as much as myself. Your point that there are numerous Capos and Mademen walking these streets is well taken. Unfortunately these same individuals, no matter how deserving, are not a part of organization, and I feel that it is not in either my families OR New Yorks best interests to open up to them. Running a successful business model requires a shared vision and cooperation. I have made the best choice possible for my city. Period.



Any questions involving other families members and why they haven't been authed should be directed to their respective Family Heads. I'm sure they would appreciate your questioning their judgment as much as I do.



As has been pointed out this is my city. The decisions effecting this city and it's inhabitants are mine alone. It wasn't that long ago that the idea of a WiseGuy running a family was de rigeur. Both Scandia who is my AGA and myself came into our families at this rank. We have aquitted ourselves well. In the end it doesn't matter at what rank we come into our own. What matters is character. We define ourselves through our actions. That Seventh has transcended the rank of WiseGuy to become my partner in this city should give you some clue as to his importance to me, and to my city.

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Thank you Three, for your support and friendship. Yes, The Cult of Cthulhu was able to recognize it's first Mademan this morning and we are very proud of Gaara's achievement. He is an integral part of our Origanization and we feel blesesed to have him with us.


Last night when I finally went to sleep I was excited about what the future holds for New York and its citizens.


This morning I had the distinct pleasure to have Seventh become my partner and to promote our first Mademan.


I embrace the future and am proud of the progress we have made.
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Canine you make me smile with your query
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