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Curtis: The Events, The Truth, The Future Started by: Severe on Jun 05, '15 22:37

I believe I am thinking for myself. Pretty sure I asked a question, which would lead me to believe that I have thought for myself. While I appreciate your nasty approach towards me, I have not approached anyone in that manner.

I did not say I demanded answers. I merely asked them. Whether or not the person I asked them to wants to speak up on their comments or not, that is for them to decide.

Just because I am low ranked (as you are) does not mean I don't have a right to ask a question or to speak an opinion. Does it hold much weight in the long scheme of things? Perhaps not. Doesn't mean I can't speak. I was not given a gag that I am aware of.

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Hands Ryssa a gag

You happy?

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It's not a "fair point". It's a stupid point. You're mad that your dad/mom/whoever got killed and others didn't, and you're out here expecting people to answer to your salty salty tears. 

 

History is written by the victors. The history here is that all of Detroit was wiped out in a coordinated show of force. Whether or not some people managed to escape the carnage is completely and utterly irrelevant. 

This is America, and as such, you're entitled to be as salty as you want. It's there in the Constitution somewhere. But don't expect anyone of consequence to give two tugs of a dead dog's cock about your piddly little problems.

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Scott no one is crying that their parents got killed or their aunt, uncle, cousin and pet rat. So where you are seeing saltiness I see a discussion that is open for discussing.

I don't know why people must come out and toss around snarky replies in a discussion. It doesn't make your point anymore relevant then the next person's just because you want to come across rude to others.

Here is the root of all things. Just because you don't find something relevant doesn't mean someone else isn't curious about it. Clearly more than just I are curious about it. None of the people that brought up the point is asking for survivor deaths or demanding we get replies or we burn three cats for sacrifice. We asked a question. If that person doesn't want to answer, that is fine. That is all on them.

No one has salty tears going on. People are acting like adults and discussing an event. Don't like it? Perhaps you should stop coming out to this street corner. There are plenty of speeches to attend. Pick one that you feel you want to contribute to. Provide one. Speak up. Don't speak up. Everyone has their thing. Their own thoughts. Their own brain.

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Ryssa in war there should be know one left standing . End of story
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I'm not mad, my father wasn't part of Detroit and I can't really be sad about his loss anyway. I think you're a bit angry though. A bit much too. Notice that none of us is actually bitching about why Detroit was wiped out? But I guess you failed to notice that and rely on calling us ''mad'' and ''salty''. Keep it up sir. 

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There's a great deal of vengeful disagreement going on here.

Myself? I'm grateful we have a structure based on the understating of actions equal repercussions. Our leaders take steps to inform us of the reasons behind their decisions. Is it the truth? Maybe, maybe not. But they've got the bigger stick, if you don't like it, get yourself a sick and continue with the actions=repercussions mentality.

I'm grateful that those in power have reasons for their actions, never mind that they share them. It could be a lot worse.
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It's fair to ask questions about it once a leader says all of Detroit was to be taken out and you see former members of those cities walk to live another day.
I somehow feel that people are more worried about the mathematical inconsequence of the statement and reality then that is being cared about the lives that were lost.

Usually protection orders are given when the whole situation is under control or when there's little reason to suspect any associates of the fallen families to cause problems. In this case there were two people who kept fighting for their city and rightfully so, they took in quite some members of Detroit who were left without a home. That creates a risk for the attacking party and because of that apparent willingness of younger Detroit members to go down with their leaders, the killing of those younger members continued.

People who weren't killed showed clear intent not to fight for Detroit. These members have to start from scratch again within a new family, but are given a chance. The attacking party weren't ruthless killers out for as much blood as possible. But once it started the decisions of a few who kept fighting for Detroit resulted in the deaths of their more innocent former family members.

If you think a bit clearly it's easy to see what happened here. But again, I rather suspect that the problem that some have with what happened is more so a need to be cynical towards the words of some leaders or that they missed the expected pattern of a protection order, than that they really care for lives lost or those who switched families. The latter category were only associates I believe, but don't pin me down on that statement.

The topic being discussed here is really Severe's interpretation of the truth. I'm not hear to throw dirt around.I just want to comment on his mention of BlackBetty not showing during the war of last week. Sure it would have been nice if she could have been around, but she was unavailable. These things happen in life, especially in unsuspected circumstances like a person going rogue in the middle of the night. The operation ran by BlackBetty exists of more then just herself though.

I'm grateful Detroit fought for Philadelphia when Manhattan claimed to want to attack us, but it's not so that Philadelphia or Bella Vista wasn't around when things happened. During the war the upper structure of our district was constantly present and moving people where they were needed. The killing of the rogue, how hard Detroit perhaps tried, wasn't accomplished by Detroit. Because Philly worked well with Detroit always, hell Detroit was part of Philly before, we fought with you against Manhattan and helped win that battle. The thing what you did that really stood out though, was killing Curtis, and that came at a price for you.

I'm not here to start a debate about who backstabbed who. Who was most efficient in the past week. Just because Detroit was the first alerted to the rogue situation did not mean Philly stood by helpless. There's no honour to be found here and perhaps not even truth as not everyone knows the same facts. Not everyone agrees on which relations should have been valued over others.

RIP to the fallen. I hope to cherish the memories of how we worked together, not how we grew apart over the span of a week.
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Simply, in a war do not leave survivors. No matter if they're allies, friends, sisters, wives what the hell ever. Kill everyone. See, prime example DT. Everyone apart of a DT family are dead, well except those that chose to leave rather than die. It is cowardice, true, but they are alive. While our parents are not. Rest well everyone. Sienna waves to the crowd of spectators

 

And with that sienna goes about her business, she thinks of her now deceased mother Aislin...she whistles a tune, this is life...

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TIIYAH could hear a little discussion that was happening in a corner of the street and was curious to hear the point of view of others so she walked closer then decided to add her 2 cents.

 

The clear answer to this, is that some just are not as loyal as others, this is known amongst a few as "Ship Jumpers".

For whatever reason, they decided that they were not willing to fight to the very end with their District or City and so they found a new place to call home in order to stay alive. Obviously Loyalty did not mean much to them and did not think much to those who had given them a home and tried their best to keep them safe, just for that person to leave when things got tough. At the end of the day, these things do happen and i guess the person who took those "ship jumpers" in must think they they will be loyal to them but that will be for them to find that out.

 

Personally my bloodline has always tried to fight to the bitter end and would much rather die fighting for their beloved city then be saved by the people that have attacked their family. I would like to say RIP to the fallen and i hope that you all find peace.

 

With that TIIYAH makes her way back out to the streets.

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