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24hrs before a new player can bet in the Harty's Started by: Al-Ligambi on Jun 09, '15 17:14
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I'm just going to cut to the chase, I feel strongly that there should be a 24hr waiting period for new players to bet on Harty's, (or any restriction that forces them to be atleast gangster. Why you may ask, well it's simple why should some player who may not ever return and play again be able to run off with my money like a thief in the night, like what is that crap.

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MariotheSin $10,000 $11,610,000 Jun 09, '15 15:27
 
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 This civilian just happened to win the 4th biggest pot as of yet, not even being a day old or in a crew. They then have obviously sent there money off to someone before logging off themselves. So I ask again, how is it fair that some civilian appears, just happens to win 11million and then disappears just under 2hrs later without a trace of the cash. It just seems obvious there needs to be some changes made to avoid this from happening again.

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An obvious and easy fix to this problem would be stop gambling.

If you don't want the risk of losing money to someone then don't give them the opportunity to take it.

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I completely understand there's an obvious risk but what I'm trying to get at is why should someone who can't pickpocket or shoot be able to participate in the big boy activities like a Harty, a gangster requirement really isn't asking for much. It just makes the player have to stick around for longer then a day before they can gamble in it. If a player isn't going to stick with the game chances are they won't make it to gangster and if they do it's during their inactivity.

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thats just dumb TBH, who cares who can gamble? everyone has a block they can use if they feel the gambling is unfair

anyone should have full access to gambling if they so choose, the reason for this is it helps the cash find a way out of the game

it feels as though the current winners are just upset that the new characters are breaking their win streaks

 

if a new character cant PP or shoot or do certain crimes wht can they do? gamble!

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The fact that your justification is rooted in classifying harties as "big boy activities" inclines me to disagree with your suggestion. Pickpockets are an attack, and civilians are immune to them. That is why they cannot PP. Shooting, as well, is something they they are protected from and therefore cannot engage in the activities.

Unless you're contending that he can't lose the harty because he's not a gangster yet, your comparison to shooting and picking pockets has no parallels to your suggestion.

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Well Cypher just like myself and everyone else you're entitled to your opinion. Also I'm speaking strictly on Harty's not gambling period.

it feels as though the current winners are just upset that the new characters are breaking their win streaks

Well your assumption there is wrong seeing how it was only 1 new character and no one's saying jack all about win streaks except for yourself.  Maybe if you had actually read the above you'd see that I'm merely stating my opinion, that I don't see it ok that someone can win a pot yet not even be a criminal. That's like someone going on IRC and beating you to a free credit but instead transferring it to another account and ending their life.

if a new character cant PP or shoot or do certain crimes wht can they do? gamble!

Simple, they can do crimes, drug deals, and jails until they got their one day chip... What did you do your first day Cypher, stand around with your dick in hand?

 

Orsik you do have a valid point that this isn't an attack like the other two, so why classify them together. Well for starters it's because at gangster you live and die by the sword. You can get it simply after 1 day by just being active which was my point, why should they sneak in like a thief in the night and make off with the money before their even associated with this thing of ours or even plan on being active/continue playing. What if he just stopped playing right after winning. 7 days goes by and he's a target for a shot because he has no crew, there goes all that money he just won and no one gets it.

It's clearly a lost cause at this point but I had to voice my opinion/suggestion be it right or wrong, which is what these forums are for...

So thanks Orsik and the Doctor without borders for sharing your opinions, I bid you a do.

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He got just as much right to win that harty as you do.

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If anything, you want to encourage new users to do it.  In reality, if you have deep pockets, you are better prepared to win than someone who is a little skint.  A new player may be able to refresh harty a few times, but it will take a much bigger financial toll on him than a player who can move some serious units.  Most likely they will run out of money and drop out long before a ranked player.  This means its "free money thrown into the pot" more or less.  Sometimes, when no one else feels like winning, a newbie will get it, like this case.

We put rank restrictions on free shit like credits, because someone should have to put in some work to gain over someone else... but with harty, you are paying your way... every single click... he paid, so in my opinion he is eligible. 

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Al-Ligambi my first day, i won a harty when i was 22 hours old :)

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Well, if there was only a way that you could prevent such things from happening...

OK, sorry for my sarcasm, but you see my point. If you don't want whoever to win the pot, just claim it yourself, for christ's sake!

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Thirsty much...
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