Walking the streets of Manhatten, the scene wasn't much different than the other cities Bodica had recently visited in trying along with many other hard working mafiaso to end the senseless bloodsheed. She's lost count of how many friends and family that had died along side strangers in this senseless war. Looking around, Bodica saw bodies lying here and there, some HQ's in disarray all but destroyed, still not as bad here as in other cities which were yet again totally wiped out. Stopping and leaning against the nearest tree, Bodica heard shots here and there, saw people shooting and doing their own thing..why? why weren't they joining forces with those trying to take out the opposing forces?  Are they gutless? too afraid to stand with the masses and fight? Too afraid of dying? So what if they died she thought, you die as her mother did, helping to end this bloodshed. Bodica looked through the hazy sun mixed with smoke and saw a few standing outside of a building, looking around sorrowfully at all the chaos happening around the city.she had no idea what they were up to if anything to help end it..maybe some were helping, she really didn't know what was in their head, what they were thinking because they weren't totally in the loop..the same in another city..just doing our own thing instead of helping to end it..Bodica may be a gangster, but one thing she knew was that betrayal and self preservation, self centered behavior will in this case never bodes well..their choice, not a wise one but their's just the same..

Is it more self-centered to do what's best for yourself in your opinion, or request that others do what's best for you?

It's obvious that you have no desire to help Alfredo and that is your choice to make..I see it as you deciding your own fate by the decisions you or anyone else makes..fence sit and do nothing or jump in and help end it..the choice is you'rs, not anyone elses..Our choices one way or another wont be forgotten..

If you're going to make enemies with everyone who doesn't jump at the opportunity to side with you, you're going to make a lot of enemies and this definitely isn't the way to ask others to join in the fight. Fence sitting/comas is how a lot of people have survived wars, and it was forgotten when they did it.

You attract more flies with honey than vinegar, but assuming I'm your enemy because I don't jump at the chance to get involved in a fight I wasn't much of a part of is definitely a choice you can make.

no ones asking you to do anything...i just observed a specific issue, that people whine about wanting this blood shed to end..the best way to do that is to band together and fight..if you choose not to, it's your choice..simple..I personally have better things to do than worry about one persons decision..I couldn't give a rats ass what you decide to do..

Based on the nature of this speech I greatly disagree. You clearly do care what people choose to do and I'm simply asking you to do so without calling people self-centered. You're the one being self-centered by insulting people who don't side with you because they won't do what you think is best. People are meant to be individuals and if they have no ties of loyalty to any of the current CLs why should they join in the fight? There's way too many for you to kill them all and frankly that'd be a huge waste of your guns so you'd be doing your opponents a favor if you did so.

I would like to state from the scrolls my father kept, Manhattan had been fighting and losing many players since the second the war started, they first allied with sir Jamie and the alliance, and many of their hitters have been killed. before we judge how about we get more information? we look upon men who have been performing the duties of proers and we say the district is not helping. we should always find out more info before speaking.

In the past two months we have seen two nation-wide takedowns. Only a very small handful of crewleaders were left standing, and many good people died. I can't blame people for wanting the bloodshed to end.

Please, dont misunderstand me..I like everyone else want this crap to end..what i'm saying and cant figure out is, if everyone is in agreement, why dont they band together and take out the BG's of the people we're instructed to instead of shooting RIA's, MIA's and Durdens..those can wait until after..the more guns we have helping, the faster we can hopefully wittle the protection of Alice and the others..a hand full are doing that, a hand full doing their own thing, and most aren't able to do much of anything..Why is that so hard to understand?Band together and fight as the other side is doing..

Martiimus, I don't think anyone was speaking about a particular district but which district have you been hearing wasn't helping if I might ask?

Prae, I think everyone agrees but they just have varying opinions on the best way to see it end.

Petyr, that ladder you're climbing is probably being held by a CL you know. Whereas I don't know any of them, so why should I trust the person holding said ladder steady?

Bodica, people have differing opinions and quite frankly why risk yourself aiding in a war if you don't have any ties to the leaders on that side? You fight the good fight to put... a person you don't know/like in power. That's a pretty deflating victory and not one I see as worth pursuing. So why not shoot the IAs littered throughout the streets if you don't have a side picked out?

well, if I were in your shoes, i'd still do what I could to help end it and worry about the rest later..that's what makes us all individuals, we look at the same picture and come away with different view points..

"Doing whatever it takes to end it" without a reason for trying to end it would make me a drone and not an individual. I have no reason to pursue that, so why should I? Vague empty threats won't work on me because I know both sides have far too few guns to kill off random gangsters walking the streets not participating. There are no CLs I know and like right now, so why should I shoot at the BGs of a person obviously killing the people killing their BGs to help someone I don't know and like? There isn't one. What's best for me is to wait for a leader I like to pop up and just build my account until then.

On top of that, how do I even know the CL I pick will survive? Obviously CLs are dropping flies so if I invest into one and they die before this is all over, what have I accomplished?

Wait until the war is over then? If you aren't going to be a team player, at least do it properly. 

So kill myself or stay away from these shores for not being a team player on a team I didn't pick? I'll pass.

way to go making my statement as a whole about you..no idea where you got that our of anything said..we are a few families, from a few cities around this great world..Dying is a chance we all risk, so you can give up and sulk in a corner until it's over one way or another or you find a way to make a stand and fight with the rest of the ones that are trying to end it..as far as trusting goes, there's no reason from what I see for a CL to take you in and put any faith and trust in you either..

Why does not participating make me come across as sulking to you? I'm quite curious... lol

Also, why are you trying to make yourself come across as the group stringing things together? You do realize you have vastly superior numbers on your side, right?

Again, if I walk past a couple of heavy weights fighting in an alley, why should I try to step in? What do I have to gain by standing in the way of one of those punches? A nice pat on the back from a random stranger or someone I don't like? Woot! I got me a pat on the back for taking a punch to the face! Thanks boss who'll probably forget about that seeing as how many people did that who might not even survive the fight!