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No reason will make alot of us believe Started by: DonDonald on Oct 11, '15 05:12

They don't have to; nobody can force them, but there is a reason most usually do. Namely, because it typically makes them seem more reasonable and trustworthy and therefore less likely to be attacked by their neighbours out of paranoia down the line. The other bonus is that people respect those who explain their actions and speak intelligently in the streets. At least I do, anyway.

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I would say there is nothing that earns my own respect more, Credits.

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So yes it comes down to politics I guess. But if they don't give an explanation then just let them be... I don't really know how to explain this but let me try:
As you said, if they don't give the reasons why it will most likely just affect them in the future because people will think they are not very trustworthy. If that's the case then sucks for them but at the end of the day they are responsible for their own actions.
But my point is this, if they don't want to give an explanation they don't have to. Can it affect them later on? Sure. But still, it's their decision whether they want to tell us or not. But this is just my opinion.
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There are A few things The Rock doesn't understand here. But most importantly of the things The Rock doesn't understand is this one. A leader retired and her people are still dying wearing her name. What did these people receive for their loyality? Betrayal of their own leader. If the leader truly cared wouldn't that leader fight till the death to honor or attempt to honor the very people they housed?

The Rock knows his opinion doesn't matter but the Rock is confused that people are conversing about a city being betrayed.but not the people who trusted a leader, and were let down.
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Well its time that I say few words about this

As one of LV leaders,we were aware that probably we will go down,why?

Because our city head was very paranoid guy,with no balls,who left his city without word

and he is only person that I m mad at,he killed lot of Vegas guys just because he though that they have

big inaff gun to take him down!That is low in my opinion

next,he could say

"guy we are in trouble,they are going to take as down"we could fight,we were not so small

and I know that all this came for LV/LA guys shooting at CH/DT guys,but you should think again who shooted,some guys

from LV got some W/S,if it was up to me I would vote for killing Seph

next,for you guys that you talk about why LA accepted LV members and stand us,it was easy answer

LA was  Vegas brother town,ofc that they will stand as,and I m proud of them

anyway its time for new start,we need to let go all of this

 

RIP to all

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Adroit, somebody correcting "alot" shouldn't in the same breath say "they're" when they mean "their".

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If you're mad at Seph for abandoning his city, shouldn't you be equally mad at Doll for abandoning her district? The district that your father (or grandfather?) was a part of, as her underboss even. 

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Doll had different reason,she retired in hope that her death will save those under Made rank,but we see that that didnt helped

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The war had casualties and reasons. What is done is indeed done.

I hope the sons and daughters of this event can move on and fund a path in this thing of ours. Don't look back in anger, push forward.

There are reasons and even those complaining know of their gather and mother's whispers. I lost a dear good member if my family as well. However, instead if being bitter at the seemingly random and stupid act towards someone not involved, I will say we will continue business as usual as I hope will the other ancestors who return.
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She stumbles upon another Bitter Betty and shakes her head.

When are people going to get it? War is war. There's always a reason. Good reason. Bad reason. You may not like the reason. You may not understand the reason. Hell, you may think it's not a valid reason, but in the end, there is ALWAYS a reason. You may not agree with it, but there's always.. ALWAYS a reason.

IF the powers that be decide to share their reasoning for this war that's up to them. There will be lovers, haters, people that don't really give a fuck. They really don't owe anyone a reason. They sure as hell don't have to come out here and make it public unless they choose too. It's not an expectation anyone should have. Would you run around bragging about why you partook in the mass extinction of two cities for the cops to hear about? Duh.

How united is a city when the "city leader" retires and leaves his members trying to figure shit out and get safe? How united is a city when DURING a war a district leader retires because she doesn't want to get her hands dirty, again, no warning and leaving her members unprotected and easy pickings for those bloodthirsty bastards?

Of course Los Angeles was going to be removed, they were tied to Las Vegas. Why let the enemy live? Yes, it goes both ways for both sides.

War is war. It happens. Get over it. Leave the funerals and go on to become better than those that came before you. If you don't like the way things are going, rank up, kill shit, and do them your way. Try not to make yourself a target by coming to the Streets and blathering on like an idiot, that ups your chances of surviving long enough to maybe have a chance of changing things by a hundred percent.

Until then...

She pulls out a tray of her famous cookies...

Have a cookie. I have a secret ingredient I'd like you to try and figure out. No one has so far!!! They'll help you get over identity crises and deaths of loved ones. I promise. The recipe has been handed down for generations spanning eons. WiggleButt can testify to their quality.
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They are delicious. That is all.
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StinkEye wells up as she hears that FFF's children will no longer roam these streets. He was a good man and and I consider his family, my family. She takes a moment to compose herself before she speaks

 

Of course Los Angeles was going to be removed, they were tied to Las Vegas. Why let the enemy live? Yes, it goes both ways for both sides.

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StinkEye wells up as she hears that FFF's children will no longer roam these streets. He was a good man and and I consider his family, my family. She takes a moment to compose herself before she speaks

 

Of course Los Angeles was going to be removed, they were tied to Las Vegas. Why let the enemy live? Yes, it goes both ways for both sides. -CarolPeletier

I agree with Carol. There may have been some in LA that agreed to stand down and watch their sister city die, however, I can assure you that even if every city member was informed they were not in harms way there were some, including my mother, that would never stand by and do nothing just to save themselves.  

 

From what I understand, unsponsored members of murdered family heads were allowed haven in to LV families. Let me ask you guys a question... What should be the VERY FIRST thing done when accepting a member from a fallen leaders family from another city? Considering that these people are auto demoted to below Made Man now, the first thing you do is remove their weapon from them and make sure there is no other way for them to obtain one other than by doing crimes. -Jono

You are correct Jono, the very first thing should be to take their weapon away IF their new leader wanted to render them helpless. The very first thing a loyal leader does when he takes in someone from his sister city is to promote them and give them auth to shoot. There were no mistakes made, letting them keep their gun was intentional not an oversight.

I believe that most war victims are questioning the initial reasoning for the war not the mid war thought process of the attacking leaders. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

I understand that many question Seph's abrupt departure, if you knew him you would know that it is out of character for him to do something like that. He had his reasons, very legitimate personal reasons so please drop the subject.

 

 

 

 

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"The Rock walks up to StinkEye and looks her in the eye while moving his left eyebrow."

Now StinkEye, The Rock had become aware that you insulted CarolPeletier's fantastic cookies.
Who in the blue hell attacks someone's baking even more so when it's good?
Who are you?! IT DOESNT MATTER WHO YOU ARE! No one insults the Champs cookies!

The Rock doesn't understand why so many people are speaking about this issues Ina. Form that could be concidered unbecoming for these streets. The Rock suggests going over to OCC avenue before he lays the smack down on your candy ass!
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StinkEye, I realise that now after I have been informed that it was always meant to happen that way. In which case, yes you are correct. 

 

Like you have said there, it depends on what part the inviting leader is playing in that particular war. 

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