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| Savannah, LA doesn't make sense | Started by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT on Oct 16, '15 11:15 |
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Alright, I know this is a cosmetic issue, but I gotta say it. As a person who lives in Los Angeles born and raised, there is no place called Savannah here. None. It doesn't exist. In fact, a quick google search reveals that "Savannah" was the name of a tiny settlement in LA with a railroad depot that existed for a mere 3 years from 1887-1889. It became a part of Rosemead in 1889. 3 years was how long it existed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah,_California So, this doesn't seem to make any sense in the context of the 1930s mafia. I can honestly say that, of the 16 million people living in the LA metro area today, nobody has heard of this Savannah place. As an Angelino, it just seems pretty silly. LA is MASSIVE and has a ridiculous amount of cool, historical districts in addition to Hollywood and Inglewood. You have South Central, Eagle Rock, Skid Row, Silver Lake, Echo Park, Florence, Compton, Redondo Beach, Venice Beach, Watts, San Pedro, Sunset Junction, Miracle Mile, Wilshire - you name it. These are all prominent historic neighborhoods just off the top of my head. In fact, San Pedro is the port of Los Angeles where all the drug trafficking occurs. Where this 'Savannah' came from has me baffled, but it certainly ain't Los Angeles. I urge you guys to make a change. |
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It is cosmetic, but I'd like to see one of the other suggestions made here. I'd never heard of Savannah before MR but I recognise quite a few the original poster mentions. |
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| Reply by: KevinOwens at Oct 16, '15 11:17 | |
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Despite how small this may be, i'm certainly in favour of this. |
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| Reply by: ForrestBondurant at Oct 16, '15 14:17 | |
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I like the sound of Venice beach! |
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| Reply by: Rusty at Oct 16, '15 14:28 | |
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Only because all the boys will have their moobs out Rusty.. |
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| Reply by: ForrestBondurant at Oct 16, '15 14:38 | |
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Straight outta COMPTON. :P I like Compton. Just sounds gangster. |
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| Reply by: Karmen at Oct 16, '15 16:43 | |
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Alright, I'm glad this is taking off. Looks like we're now straddled with the plethora of amazing place names to succeed "Savannah." Compton does sound cool because of its notoriety today. However, for the sake of argument, Compton - in the 1930s - was an all-white suburb; not quite the birthplace of Biggie/Tupac as we know it today. I mean, I don't really care either way - anything is better than a fictional Savannah at this point. So, we gotta decide on what's cool vs. what's historically accurate I guess. Venice Beach ain't a bad pick though, that place has attracted all sorts of oddballs since its inception. Loads of organized crime and weird people roaming that place. And bodybuilders... Lots and lots of bodybuilders. |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at Oct 16, '15 20:10 | |
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Honestly I was just being sarcastic anyways. :P Because I could use a movie title. South Central would be a good one. |
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| Reply by: Karmen at Oct 16, '15 21:33 | |
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To be fair and correct geographically as it seems to be North Central South it should be
San Fernando Valley Hollywood Inglewood
As those would represent the most famous areas and stay North Central South |
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| Reply by: Money-B at Oct 16, '15 21:42 | |
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Oh God, the valley... I know we're trying to aim for some frame of historical/geographical accuracy, but let's be honest, the 818 is a shithole... and not even in a good way. It's just a massive run-down suburb with no mob history. The neighborhoods I've suggested, on the other hand, are true icons of the Southland. Ain't nobody gonna wanna build a city in the valley... |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at Oct 16, '15 21:50 | |
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Actually you are wrong,
Jack Dragna ran his family out of the Valley, the Black Dahlia murder in the valley and most of the "era" crime tied to bootlegging and trafficking was in the valley. Not to mention the movie industry has always been centered in the valley as well as the porn industry.
the further south you pushed you stepped into Naval and migrant areas IE Inglewood and Hollywood has always been a false hood it has been the glits and glamour portion but very little is done in Hollywood as a whole. |
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| Reply by: Money-B at Oct 16, '15 22:08 | |
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Haha you are obviously not from the LA area. The Black Dahlia murder was in Leimert Park south of the 10 near University Park and USC. Do you know where the San Fernando Valley even is? The film industry has NEVER been centered in the valley. It's been Hollywoodland before they dropped the land ages ago. The valley's only redeeming value is being the porn capital of the world for the past 40 years. Hence, "San Pornando Valley" My undergrad was in film production and I worked for Universal some years ago. Studio City, Universal City, I wouldn't call that the de facto valley by any means. I'm talkin the area that stretches from Toluca Lake through NoHo, Sylmar, Northridge, Reseda, Chatsworth. THAT is the valley, man. |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at Oct 17, '15 00:04 | |
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So nikelodeon, universal studies disney the tonight show not based in the valley in the burbank area? It depends on where you feel the valley spreads to cover. Dahlia i will give you but i thought that happened closer to the valley area. The rest though i will disagree with, and can argue points to my side as well i am sure you can. Doesnt change if you look N C S and seperate in bubbles wanting to keep Hollywood it would make sense to go Valley overlap Hollywood overlap Inglewood. |
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| Reply by: Money-B at Oct 17, '15 15:04 | |
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I'm all in favor of this, personally I'm liking skid row and sunset junction. Also even though tupac went to Cali to record records him and biggie were both from NYC. |
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| Reply by: Dillon at Oct 17, '15 16:57 | |
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Travel within Detroit Corktown [East] $58 5 Minutes ? Black Bottom [South] $58 5 Minutes ? Downtown [Center] ? @deemoney-b, not sure why you're focused strictly on Central North South when the districts aren't limited to that as you can see. |
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| Reply by: Dillon at Oct 17, '15 17:17 | |
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I always thought Savannah was lame. If you want to go retro go Little Italy or even Lincoln Heights (If I've got the wrong heights someone correct me) |
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| Reply by: Sneaker at Oct 17, '15 22:46 | |
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Dillon it is natural in a state as long as California,
If I am being totally honest I would like to see states with three key cities for example :
California San Diego Los Angeles San Francisco |
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| Reply by: Money-B at Oct 19, '15 18:09 | |
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What would you suggest is the best prohibition era 5 areas "sorta situated" with 4 corners and a center for a total of 5 locations. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Oct 20, '15 04:11 | |
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Squishy
If you are looking at LA alone it would be something like this :
Northern Tip : Burbank / Hollywood (Burbank is further north more seed/ Hollywood is more south and glitz/glam) Western Point : Venice Southern Point : San Pedro (Port of LA is in Pedro has always been a main entrance point) Eastern : Montebello / Downey (neither hold really strong significance over other - just to most eastern points) Central : LA itself
https://www.etsy.com/listing/192449888/vintage-map-los-angeles-california-1930s
This is a vintage map original date I believe 1935 - San Pedro is and always has been very important part of the criminal trade especially back then for shipping and cargo etc. Hollywood being self explanatory and Burbank being the seedy underbelly of Hollywood. Venice has long been the spot Venice Beach, Boardwalk etc. LA is LA no question bout that its the eastern point of the area in question which is realistically although not wow factor by any stretch Montebello or Downey. |
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| Reply by: Money-B at Oct 20, '15 15:14 | |
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TCL here. If you want 5 I would suggest Hollywood (North), Venice Beach (West), San Pedro (South), Pasadena (East), Downtown LA (Central). Seems pretty well covered there. This makes the most sense since directly east of DTLA (e.g. Montebello, Lynwood, Downey) was just new suburbs at the time. There was nothing there and there still kind of isn't today... Pasadena was already pretty well established at the time, even though it's slightly northeast. |
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| Reply by: what at Oct 20, '15 19:51 | |
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