I believe you should automatically be given the drug prices that exist in you're home city/crew city. It would help you identify with your own city as we dont have much of city pride built into the game. Also it makes sense as IRL you are highly likely to know the DP in you're own city, yeah you could say that you should just MM another gangster and thats fine for other cities but I really do think there should be a difference when its your own city. Think about it like its some drug addict friend from way back telling you the information or something.

But if your home city is New York and you're in Chicago, how would you 'know' the drug price at home when you're so far away.

I don't see the justification for this or a reasoning other than ESP. If you're not in your home city (or ANY particular city you're not in) how would you know the prices? Our markets model a kind of supply and demand, so there are too many variables in play, and it doesn't seem to make much sense that it would be automatic. Knowing drug prices doesn't instill 'city pride'.

If you're not proud of your home city and where your family is from, why should the game hard code that kind of local patriotism?

well most games try to create identifying factors for the player to empathise with the character, whether its link doing all that shit in the village in ocarina or being able to get your own mansion in vice city. My point kind of was, just because your in the mafia, doesnt mean you havent got any other friends who arent mafia, I do not think you would have to call on members of the family to find out the drug prices in your home town.

I do not think you would have to call on members of the family to find out the drug prices in your home town.

But how do you justify how you would clairvoyantly 'know' what the prices were in a city where you are not currently located without talking to people who are there? With all the other factors involved... give me some kind of realistic justification. I'm not seeing it. The tips feature at least provides an understood network of crooked FBN informants who keep tab on the drug trade in order to make a quick buck, therefore justifying you being able to pay for accurate price information.

What you're suggesting doesn't have any realistic justification.

I can't believe you'd quote me to prove me wrong when I explained myself in the very same sentence.

I didn't quote you to prove you wrong. I quoted you to ask as I have asked from the start, without calling on your friends for knowledge how do you explain clairvoyant knowledge of up to date drug prices in a constantly evolving market based on changing supply and demand IF YOU'RE NOT THERE?

Where is the realism? Where is the justification? What you're asking for is to have information given to you by unrealistic means (mafia fairy dust?) that you wouldn't have without asking your family or other friends the prices.

Call on whoever you'd like to get the drug prices. Mail your friends. Have a cup of tea in a coffeeshop and ask. There's just no justification to have an automatic drug price scroller of your home city implanted in your brain, or if there is, you haven't presented it.

I can't believe you'd say you explained yourself when you really haven't. So where is the realistic justification for this?

ok the madam, the warden, the fbn agent dont actually exist, because the couple of hundred people in the mafia arent the only people we know who make up the world, and its not enough so these people are made up, it makes sense that you would have people from your own town who are friends who arent in the mafia, yeah I did explain myself this is the third time.

Perhaps I'm just thick, because you say you've explained yourself, and yet I'm not getting your point.

The madam, the warden, and the fbn agent are game instituted NPCs with plausible justifications for their existence. Since we're talking about drugs, I'll talk about the FBN agent (again, as I've done it already). The FBN agent is a FEDERAL agent (crooked, albeit) who would have connections from other cities that justifies how he would have drug price information for cities where he is not located.

You're wanting to put in MORE NPCs on the justification that you would have non-mafia friends, but it doesn't make any sense. You'd have non-mafia friends, yet who are heavily in the drug trade just there for your own personal price analysis? You don't need NPC's to tell you what the price is in your home city when you can just ask real players who are currently there. Unless these NPC's you create travel around with you (even though they're not in the mafia) and if they did travel around with you, it still begs the point... how would THEY know if they're not there? They wouldn't. So the NPC's would have to stay in the home city in order to be able to give you accurate prices, which is pointless as you could just ask a player who is online in that city, negating the justification for a code-implemented NPC.

You'd have to write home to an NPC to get the information (realistically), so why not just write to a real player? It doesn't make sense. Where is the justification for adding NPCs to the equation when they're absolutely not needed and the information can already be attained by asking players, bribing an agent, using an HQ drug thread, or IRC?

What I think you're not understanding is that I get what you're wanting implemented, but you're not justifying the need or making it realistic enough to warrant implementation.

the FBN agent doesnt travel around with you

The FBN agent is a FEDERAL agent (crooked, albeit) who would have connections from other cities that justifies how he would have drug price information for cities where he is not located.

Didn't say he did. He has connections because there is an FBN agent in every city. That's how the game justifies his knowledge of out of city drug prices.

but he's in every city, anyway do you reckon when your a gangster and you buy drugs that each time you buy they let you get one more unit.

He's not in every city. There's a different FBN agent in every city (pay close attention to the names, they're different). They're all crooked feds out for a fast buck. We assume because they're all feds, and they're all crooked that they communicate with each other to help pad their own wallets. That's the justification for how they know out of city drug prices.

And I don't know what you're asking in your last post. Do I reckon? No. I don't reckon. If you keep tipping them and padding their wallets, they put the word out on the street that you're an okay guy to do drug business with. Then you may be allowed to carry more drugs.

Other than that, I really don't understand what you said.

the point I was going for was do you think that when you become better known some boss goes nah he doesnt have to get 12 kilos of coke anymore, now hes big enough to buy 13.  Do I have to say everything twice with you?

*Chuckles.* I guess so, Einstein, because half the time I can't understand what you're saying.

Back to the main point of this thread though. Adding in your drug addled NPC friends is too far fetched, when you can just ask real people in the city. It has nothing to do with city pride (as you first brought up) and there are already NPCs in the game to help you with your drug prices. Adding more is just silly.

Good luck in your other endeavors though. You seem like a real master debater, kid.

master debater? are you like 14 years old then? oh yeah cos when you wanted to say I was stupid you called me Einstein. You gonna start flickin pellets at me now? kid, lol

*Laughs.*

Nah, if I wanted to call you stupid, I'd say straight up that you're a fucking idiot.

sorry lol I cant get over that master debater thing I bet you thought that was the funniest thing that someone else had ever made up 20 years ago. Its still good mate, next time tho call the person a child after instead of a kid, It'll make them feel even younger and that smug satisfied grin on your chubby little face will get to spread even further.

what so then you meant Einstein truthfully? no you didnt so your the fucking idiot. (who hasnt got the balls to say straight up that the other guys an idiot)

Do I have to say everything twice with you?

I just responded to your implication of my inferior abilities of understanding, so the Einstein was an homage to your self-inflated sense of intelligence. If you can't handle what comes back around, don't dish it out.

Furthermore, you've gotten so far away from your original topic that this whole thread has become a farce. Seriously, lock it up and get back on topic. Save face; the sooner the better.

"yeah I did explain myself this is the third time." so yeah if I have to then again say 'your not listening to me'  I'm gonna get annoyed if someone calls me a master debator, kid, if we're gonna run back through all the posts like a a massive fanny, especially when it confuses the fuck out of me making me think im suddenly at school in the 80s. Iv watched dazed and confused and the breakfast club but that doesnt mean I want to be in them, Instead I'll settle for - you dont like my idea, fine fuck off then