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Random Game Statistics Started by: Squishy on Oct 12, '09 15:13

Random data survey of 100 users in crews that are stuck at 20 drug units. (Total of 157 crewed members stuck at 20 units)

Aurora Count    1

Butt_Ox Count    3

Death-Knight Count    2

Deimne Count    5

Gaius Count    6

Iota Count    1

Kates Count    6

lorrie Count    3

Mr_Mysterious Count    6

Myrddin Count    1

Paul_Vidi Count    6

PedroRourke Count    7

Pip Count    1

Premier Count    1

Recro Count    5

Rhuarc Count    7

Rover Count    2

ScipitaRourke Count    1

Sherlock Count    10

Starshine Count    2

Straz Count    8

Tallien Count    2

ThomasRourke Count    1

Tie Count    6

TM Count    6

Unsponsored Count    1

Grand Count    100

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Boss Count    4

Capo Count    8

Made Man Count    14

Wise Guy Count    66

Earner Count    5

Goomba Count    3

Grand Count    100

For more information on the strategy to get past 20 units, speak with your crew advisor, or whoever is in charge of education.

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Did anyone from my crew mail helpdesk and request information on how to get past 20 units?

~T~

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The last person I helped was this morning, afterwhich I sent out the mail to the CLs.  I don't think we received any other requests since.

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Thank you for this information squishy I for one am dissapointed that i have members stuck on units but will be rectifying this situation right away.

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Do you mean the person you helped was from my crew or that the last person to ask generally was this morning?

The reason I ask is because this is an area we've taken an active interest in. I have various posters containing information like this throughout my HQ offering guidance. This particular question was actually answered by my RHM in a thread entitled "FAQ" which all our members have been asked to read. On top of this, BoabyWanKenobi, Ragnarok and I speak regularly with our members (who are mostly new players) to check that they are aware exactly what they should be doing and need to do in order to progress.

As the education of new members is an area that my team are actually going out of character in order to ensure is done properly, I'm a little offended with the inference that we are failing in this department, even should the 1 member listed above be a person who mailed helpdesk.

~T~

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The person I spoke with earlier was not from your crew.  I actually don't recall any help desk mails from people in your crew (I don't field them all, just some... but its a good indication).

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I can understand why a new player or player in general would be confused and ask HelpDesk or any other Admin account for help regarding ingame things...

At times we are told to consider some admin accounts the same as player accounts, Street Cleaner being an example.
Admins play and although not in itself a problem it does blurr that line further.
Admins answer similar question in IRC openly etc.
Admins direct player action at time (Demanding CL's not tax MM for their associates initially etc)

Those are just some of the ways that that line is blurred or confused.Don't get me wrong in some ways I love having an approachable admin staff, much better than a grp of holier than thou admins refusing to communicate with its user base. But it does lend itself to these situations.

This was by no means a dig or run at admins simply an observation regarding communication and open free speech between our userbase and admins which leads to these types of situations.

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I see.

The point of my posting is because I found this to be a particularly unfair attempt to name and shame those who appear not to be educating their members correctly. I assume that was your intention when making this thread, because all the crew leaders had already been mailed directly several hours ago.

There is no real reason for the entire user base to get a breakdown like this other than to shame the person in question into action. A thread stating "Helpdesk will no longer be assisting with game strategy" and a modification of the quote would have got the same message across.

Therefore, as one of the people who was named above, I want to make it clear to anyone who might read this that the information presented is entirely misleading on behalf of my crew. Any investigative work or discussion with my members will show that they are fully aware of whom they should speak to and will probably confirm that they maintain regular contact with myself or my structure.

I have two members above Earner, both of whom are aware of how to get past 20 units - one is a Don. This means the likelihood of the number shown here beside my name being a result of those members being unable to progress past 20 units due to a lack of knowledge or possession of strategy, as this thread implies, extremely unlikely.

Thank you.

~T~

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Bovine was stuck then Tallon teached him, now Bovine ready to sell many. Thanks to Tallon and Squishy. 

Many respects,

BJ

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Tallien, the intent was to ensure that the help was given to the people that needed it, such as GiovanniBovine who is now happily sporting a few extra units. If you feel shamed after reading this post then perhaps the problem really lies within yourself?  You should have been "Oh, there is two guys that could have a few extra units, let me go lend them a hand", but instead you feel my intent was to name and shame you.  You should focus more on your family as a whole, than your self perceived image of your own reputation.

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It is np, I have a wide field of vision and my focus can encompass both my crew within the Northern Lights family and slights upon my reputation.

I've already clarified my position on this and if you feel the problem is with me, you're welcome to your opinion. I however can't see any other way to interpret it than I have already done.

~T~

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I don't understand what's going on here. :/

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Awesome, basically Squishy just gave a loud whisper saying "Psst, some of your guys need help knowing how to carry more than 20 units". After that, it was just some dialog about how to interpret such data.

This of course is my own interpretation and probably debatable.

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I fail to see why it was necessary to publish any kind of game stats. Fair enough if admins want to stop people emailing them asking why they are stuck, there are ways and means to do that, and if there aren't then that's down to flawed communication channels.

Given that the vast majority of families have at least a couple of people "stuck", then perhaps a bit of introspection into why such numbers are becoming stuck, may help. In the case of Tallien, I can say that he's definitely done more than you would reasonably expect with regards to this matter.

If people are still "stuck" beyond that, is it an issue with game mechanics? Who knows. You say there are 157 members "stuck". That must be pushing on 20% of all members? Even higher as a percentage when you consider the fact that many members won't be able to reach 20 yet I guess. If so, the issue is perhaps more than just "education".

To me, on the face of it, this seems a pointless exercise. Or, at least, it's been done in the wrong manner.

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Hmmm i do have a guide up, just proves it's not being read, must go emphasis this, Thank you.

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You can get stuck on 20 units?

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You can get stuck on 19...

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So what would one need to do to carry more? Because I don't know.

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Speak with your crew advisor, or whoever is in charge of your education.

~T~

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is it harder to carry more than 20?

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