Okay guys, I know this has been covered a few times, but my specific idea is not in there.

With the collaboration of a close friend, I began to ponder the retire/suicide feature. I have always felt that retiring from the mafia should NOT be allowed. Also, recently we have seen many people suicide.

Here is my proposition. I propose that the suicide button be completely removed. I also propose that the Retire button be changed to something along the lines of "Escape."

My reasoning for this is quite simple. I think that no one should be allowed to retire from the mafia. The only way out is death.

Now, back to my proposal. This new Escape button would not kill the account. It would do exactly as it says. The account that has attempted to "Escape" will be locked. Then, they will be presumed MIA instead of IA and the basic guidelines for IAs would apply. They turn MIA after a set number of days and then in the RP perspective, the mafia would send a hitter to take them out.

Another thought would be that when they click "Escape," the account either moves cities every couple days, or just moves cities once. The RP perspective in this would be that they tried to escape.

ALSO: If one clicks the escape button, they can not create a new character until the current character is dead. Therefore, the account should turn MIA within a day or two. This would make it so that people would be less likely to retire. 

I feel that this will add a more RP perspective to the game. Any and all comments are welcome. Tell me you love it, or hate it!

I would like to expand a bit further on the idea.

When the person clicks "Escape" their account then gets locked. After 2 or 3 days, they will turn "MIA." When they turn MIA, they are then dropped from their family.

Here is the best part though, in my opinion. No one is informed if a member of their family has clicked the "escape" button. Therefore, it gives everyone a fair chance at a kill. Therefore, it would also give more to the hitting side of this community.

It would be treated as if a mafioso actually went MIA. No one knows about it for a day or two. Then, the family automatically sends out a hitter to take him out. At this point, he would act as an IA, but he would be labled as MIA. 

Also, I have thought about it further and decided that the Retire button should stay in place for Family leaders and Godfathers. Simply because they have "Earned" retirement.

After speaking with a few people, I will expand on the idea further.

The people I have spoken to seem to think locking the account is a bad idea, for the person will just shoot at themselves or possibly go rogue so their account will not be locked.

Now, to fix this, the account would not be 100% locked. They would just no have the ability to join a family until the old account is dead. Also, a change to the MIA time. The old account will turn MIA randomly the next day.

ALSO: A certain corespondent has come up with the idea that the new account will be "Emotionally Scarred." Therefore, the new account will be more likely to fail petties and miss shots, increased chance of WBs, etc for a week or so. This will add the RP element that the son or daughter is in pain because of the deceased parent.

Decent ideas, definitely something to think about for the admins in my opinion, tho I have no idea re coding so therefore how difficult this would be or not

I have no idea how hard this would to be coded in, I would just like to see if it is possible and if people think it would be good.

So, admins, feedback please?

Yes, I know, I have made a few extensions, but there has been another added.

Seeing as HQ Wack could most certainly interfere with my idea (The person ask the leader to HQ them) I propose that anytime someone die from being HQ'ed, DD'ed or suicide/escape/retirement they get the negative effects that I described earlier. Therefore, if someone gets HQ'ed, they get the same emotional scarring. This would reflect that the child is emotionally scarred and/or embarrassed by the actions of their parents.

On a side note, I would like to add that I think there should be a change with HQ Wacking. At the very least, I think that there should be a chance of WB when HQing someone. This would add the element that the person in question shot back at the leader. Quite realistic, in my opinion. It would also motivate leaders to have a hitsquad good and quick enough to respond in emergency situations, such as taking down a rogue. They would be more likely to send out their hitters than HQ the person and take a chance of WB.

This suggestions is really a mafia-like but i completely disagree with the escape feature..on reason escaping is as much as being dead,you know mafia..

But i agree with the fact that retirement to be completely removed..I didnt see Godfather movie retire..im being realistic here.but still those who have "earned" it may have a consideration

-Puck-

Pucky, the reason I wish to implement an "Escape" feature is to simulate that a mafioso has attempted to escape from this thing of ours. Of course, that should not be allowed. Therefore, they become a target.

I see..but dont you think that no one would press that escape button? Just to die?

ofcourse there would be accidental clicks and idiots would be doing it..

Pucky, people suicide everyday. With this addition, they will think twice before pressing the button, for it will have consequences. I have went over the idea for days now and many times in the past few hours. I have discussed it with a few people and fixed a few kinks in my idea. I appreciate your questions.

I have proposed this idea to make it more realistic and to hopefully stop the massive amounts of suicides, especially after wars.

Now that you mention it..suicides really do take its toll because of wars etc..But here's what i propose if you dont mind bloed, how about instead of escape(people will not click it in my own opinion)..how about massacre?

Massacre i mean by clicking this will kill all of your generation,not having a son/daughter and completely banning your account to stop people on doing stupid things..

I know it really needs a lot tarnishing and i dont speak with other people,just expressing my opinions/ideas..

-Puck-

I do not want something that big that will stop them from clicking it altogether. That takes away the usercount. I just want them to be punished for clicking the button. Therefore, in my opinion, my idea will work quite well.

Is not really often I reply to suggestion made  but I must to say Bloedsuier that is a great ideal to me to many people suicide for no reason appart to comeback cause bit of trouble and go again  

There is no suicide button, you simply turn your gun on yourself. I am impartial to your idea at the moment, but I don't believe they should take away the free will of where you point your own gun.

I agree with this, hope it does get implemented.

Small note the retire feature should be up only for Don's and God Parents after a period of time, as we have seen you can accomplish all that is possible, there fore earning the right to retire tho in RL they became advisers to the family here that is not possible.

I've thought about this idea as well. We've even discussed it.

My version of this would be as follows.

Godfather: Retire. This rank is the only realistic rank of which you could retire. This rank you can damn well do what you want. So retire you can.

Made-Don: Leave the life of crime. On this type of escape you would lose all access to your character, and it would be removed from your current family. It would then proceed to go IA, at which time it could be killed. Your account would be credited a dead character with a random name of which noone cares because you'll only see it the time you login to register a new character.

Below made: Suicide. Noone cares about you anyway. You're not even in the family yet. So you shoot yourself.

I came here to make a suggestion based off a current street thread - http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/81428

Here's my input as a solution to the concerns amongst the community -

1 button - Request Retirement

When this button is pressed the request is sent  to the godfather/godmother of the family.  The godmother/godfather now has 2 buttons within their screen -

1 - Kill
2 - Allow Retirement

Simple enough.  You either get whacked by your godfather/godmother or they 'permit' your retirement.  After all, retirement should be an item allowed by the godfather/godmother. Just as each GF/GM should have to face the reputation that comes from allowing someone to retire - did they truly deserve such an exit?  How will this look to the other families?

The Godfather/Godmother of a city have a different button to push which simply says RETIRE.  Upon pressing this button the godmother/godfather then is provided with a list of every CL from their city, and can select whom they hand the family over to. 

As a side option to this feature each city could have a "Retirement Hall" assigned to it.  As people retire a 'snapshot' of their profile is taken.  They are listed within this Retirement Hall with name, start/end date, and rank.  You can click the name to view the profile snapshot. This would add to the Grandeur of being allowed to retire.