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Just your typical, average, every day post war speech. Started by: Ronin on Jan 17, '16 13:18

"No disrespect intended to anyone here, but one part of fydora 's speech is bothering me...

I am not mad I am dead I had an amazing run I am mad that someone acts like your friend and even congratulated me on my auth when they had the plans to wipe my city

Didn't that happen to a lot of the families and crews here? It's part of the mafia. The mafia has been known to pat someone on the back, and say great job, and the next breath, shoot said same person in the back. 

Lets pull ourselves up, and build ourselves up and move on. Grudges only begets more war. I, for one got caught in the cross fire, but blame no-one. It's part of the world we live in here. " when she finished speaking, MissNiki nodded at those around her, took a drag off her cigarette and sat down to hear what everyone else had to say.

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As one of the last surviving from NY I feel it's a need to address the issue.

Everything Ronin has stated is the complete truth. This isn't some means of trying to out himself in a higher veiwing of the public's eye.

I myself was in the middle of the issue, and even tried to call off the differences between the two cities once I was made aware of Asylums chatter between the two Godfathers. I went to JackRuby and I was told it was too late to prevent anything. Before we knew it moves had been made and no one could be to blame. Based off comments made Ronin couldn't jeopardize it just being rumors, its his responsibility to protect his city. Kimble was a man of honor, and he is the main reason I'm still here today. I couldn't thank him more for the things he has done for me.

Once Kimble was gone, and knowing why, I could not sit in NY knowing that my Godfather was killed due to things said by the remaining, primarily Asylum. SpikeS, Ronin and I spoke then decided we'd eliminate the plague.

Its sad to think Kimble, the one person who stood up for Asylum when people wanted him removed, the one person who gave him his position when others said it was a mistake, was killed due to greed. That same individual who debated on retiring leaving his family to fend for themselves. The community should remember Kimble as a true Godfather and not slander his name.

Ronin and SpikeS forever have my respect for allowing me to continue what Kimble started.

I have been called a traitor, a backstabber, but in the end despite what the populous believes more lives were saved rather then taken had actions not been resolved in the manner they had.

Regardless of your opinion or how much you don't want to beleive the reasoning , it truly is the most accurate after math speech you will hear.
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Clearly some people are to be blamed, Wigglebutt. The "dear friend" who told Ronin everything, for example, probably has some explaining to do.

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Coming out after a good night drinking following the events of the weekend III shook himself down and took a seat with a hot coffee in hand.

Lot's of good people fell in this war on both sides, but this is part of the life and unfortunately things such as betrayal will always be there as we steal, deal and kill our way through this life we have chosen. I hope the children of the fallen will grace these streets again with their presence and let the rebuilding process begin. 

Grabs himself another hot coffee and settles in to see what else is said. 

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Lucrezia hearing all the banter on the street decided to go check out what all she tapped her shoes together as she listened she let out a sweet innocent smile and began to speak

Now my dear Fydora , Ronin had no plans to wipe New York someone simply tried to play both sides and well Ronin had no choice but to shoot Kimble afterwards all the pieces were put into place and it was found out that Asylum had turned on Kimble , his late kin had found a letter where he had wanted Asylum dead which SpikeS Ronin Wiggle and the rest were setting to do.

SpikeS ended up killing Asylum and instead your father decided to not stand up and kill the man who ultimately got your Godfather killed you decided to try and fight the ones who were ultimately loyal to Kimble.

You hate the actions of Ronin but he reacted the best way he could defended his city and then avenged his friend.

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I like this vetted speech. Very familiar style of talk. I just cannot put my finger on who yet.   However,  I  do not believe for one second one man created all this drama and bloodbath.  At any rate, may the fallen rest in peace.  And I am thrilled at the fact my Mother got to actually for once aid my family and proud to be the last one standing and took a life of the shit starting rival(s) before I took my own life.

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Let's not get this twisted. I didn't back stab anyone or try to place fault completely on anyone else's shoulders. In fact I'm fully aware had I not tried to resolve what I truly believed to be issues I would be taking godfather soon and this world would be ruled for a long while. It still remains that godfather Kimble admitted to my father that there was a point he had planned to kill him but didn't. My father did not go to ronin purely out of anger, hate or disloyalty. My father has never turned his back to his leader. If he truly turned on New York, why was he the one to remove Cato?

The entire conversation won't be brought out here though it has been in the coffee shops. Stating my fathers bloodline is "known" for this type of thing is rather silly. Especially when everyone from Kimble to Jackruby knew only days earlier my father was attempting to disband and take a step down. My bloodline has done everything needed in this word for their city. New York prospered largely due to my fathers financial contributions and his brothers.

I've already stated my apologies to Kimble, sinfest, ronin and the likes. Make no mistake, my father knew he handled the situation wrong. However, my father got played in the need by someone close to him. Something kind of fitting for what occurred. Had he not gotten played and removed spikes and ronin if needed, these streets would be singing a different song. Alas they are not.

This wasn't driven by paranoia but instead nausea. For many months the leaders of New York felt as though Kimble was putting other cities and other friends before those who should have mattered most. He tried like hell to please us all. Eventually killing nilfheim.

My only regret was letting it get so far. However the events turned out, I'm still happy to have worked in New York with Kimble and the other leaders. It truly was a privilege and an honor.
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Also "fend" for themselves? Really Wiggle? I never would have allowed that. They would have all gone to homes.

Kimble didn't defend anyone. He kept me alive because I continuously paid for his friends to have bodyguards, HQs and forts to protect themselves and the majority of NY behind.

Make no mistake, I was a cash cow. Anyone that puts roughly 1.5 billion dollars into a city will be seen that way.

But I didn't run to the gods with logs that got Toby killed and Eredin admin jailed. That's something you'll have to own up to.

Not to mention your lack of trust in Kimble and feeling the need to "quit" simply because you went missing for over a month.

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Your right Woohoo I had to do with eredin being jailed because he threatened to stab me in the vagina.

I better get that cleaned.

Once again you basically come out and say your father bought your leadership. Another insult to those in NY. They stood up for you, it had nothing to do with your finances. Just stop.

Your father using Tyler durden as a means of getting the community to give him credits, in other words gold, so you could gamble them isn't an amazing feat. You should be thanking those who put their trust in you to give you gold anyhow. They are the ones that "paid" for you amazing 1.5 billion investment.

Getting lucky isn't an amazing feat, its getting lucky.

Thank you for sharing your father's journals however, it does clear some things up.

Not attacking you of course. Just defending your attempt of a rebuttal that was directed toward me.
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While you are in the confessional booth WiggleButt, will you be telling the part where it was planned you would be the last bobble head standing in Ny?

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Yoddle, if that was the case I wouldn't have asked SpikeS about the possibility of going to Corktown after Asylum was removed.

The enjoyment of conspiracies no?
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There is a huge difference between being "removed" and all else that went down in NY.  You were spared.  You did not defend NY.  Your response is very debatable and as well as your loyalty.

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Yoddle its apparent you don't know the facts. Being disgruntled sucks I know. It reminds of the time Cordelia turned me down for some "alley behind the local speakeasy" action.

And please let me dub this down for people because apparently sarcasm is now used as possible admissions.

Your right Woohoo I had to do with eredin being jailed because he threatened to stab me in the vagina.


Translation: No jackass. I was born with a penis so Eredin did not threaten to stab a vagina that I do not have. Therefore no I did not tell my lord and Savior to get him jailed.
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I thought you was a man with no balls. Back to the point at hand jackass. YOu did not defend NY because your loyalty was not with NY.

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I wasn't defending Asylum who began the issue to begin with no. You got me there!

Now move along.
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Whose word did you take that Asylum started the supposed issue?

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I'll let Ronin answer that question if he feels he'd like too, but his son Woohoo pretty much told you earlier in the speech.

Listen too people when they speak and maybe you answers are questioned. Oh I mean questions are answered my bad.
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Not only do you lack balls, but you also like to talk in circles thus avoiding the issue raised with you.  I read and understood  every word  WooHoo spoke.  It does not surprise me how easily you want to divert the attention back to his father.  I have also read every word Ronin spoke and saw the tapes on another article. Speaking of Ronin, shall you or I let him know whose gun he will die by?

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I must say Don Wiggle, arguing with a thug in the street plays right into their hands.

I'd say silent contempt is better than a verbal brawl with someone who wants it.
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The bobble heads Consigliere was around and said nothing. Congrats LordToaly. Perhaps you should be the CL.

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