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| To the Phantom Hitlisters | Started by: WiggleButt on Jan 22, '16 08:52 |
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Ok so here we go. Being I have yet to speak on this subject outside of confirming that Ronin's reasoning and veiws of events were accurate, i feel its time. Especially since thugs want to tell me I have no defense other then back Godfather Ronin's story. After this speech the floor is open to anyone who would like to bash, hate, make shit up, pamper their sore bottoms and you know the normal post war bullshit. I side with anyone who comes to the streets with explanations, no matter how truthful, how much bullshit is filtered in, whether they cover it up with a bus crash or whatever the case may be. Know why? Because who the fuck are we to question what leadership decides to do. Let me rephrase that. We can question what they decide to do, however we cannot impact their decision after a speech has been made. Hopefully I'll get that same respect but I am highly doubting it. Lets start on that fateful day. Yes I was mad at JackRuby for accusing someone of something that took no part of a certain event. Now this seems to be the motivation behind my actions that led to my cities demise. Let's be honest we all get angry from time to time. Whats the verdict? Not guilty. Fact is, yes I was upset, yes I was venting, but no that is something stupid to retaliate against. Those who know me knows it takes more then that for me to do anything to anyone in a negative manner. Let alone those who helped me reach where I was. Now lets go with rumor number two. I wanted the city for myself, I was greedy, I was mad at Kimble for not loving me enough so on so forth. Verdict? Not guilty. I actually loved Kimble, I promised him I was there for him when he was having issues, when he was contemplating retirement, when he attacked good friends that he was upset about attacking. Keep in mind, ATTACKING GOOD FRIENDS HE DIDNT WANT TO ATTACK. Yes I raised my voice and no I dont apologize. It is hard being a leader, although people think its all peaches n creames. However when you add in the stress, the rumors, the lies, and the minipulations it becomes a living nightmare. Especially when it comes to good friends that you have made via alliance. However, he stood tall and made his move. Despite the rumors, here are the facts whether you want to beleive then or not. You will see the mistake I had made, all out here on the table for the community as a whole to judge me on and slander me for. So, as I was venting to my friend about something, I was informed that Ronin was contacted by our very own Asylum and was told that we as New York had intentions on removing Ronin. Now a little backstory to help you out here. A while ago Asylum was disgruntled and making remarks to myself that in fact himself along with Sinfest were not happy with NY. He stated he felt as if his money was all they wanted him for. That his gambling bought his lifestyle, that he wasnt sure where he fit in. He then went on to brag about how he was in well with Aztec, RoryRourke, Jake_Ballard and Ronin. He stated that they all informed him that if anyone messed with him, for example Kimble, they would take his back and bury whoever this was. I hope that those I mentioned that are still living do in fact defend my honesty as they did in fact hear of said statements themselves. So given that information I went directly to Kimble, informed him of their plans of wanting to take out Detroit for the issue of a rogue that occured. He went as far as saying that he felt Jake_Ballard had told this individual to do so as retaliation to a duel that occurred days earlier. Now I had a long conversation with Kimble, we both agreed it be best I stay in close with Asylum, and at one point giving me the sole authority that if he made any comment that he was going up in arms at anytime to contect the biggest gun online and order his death. Why did I do this? For the protection of our city and alliance. Now I was a proud LH but that was left out of all that went on behind closed doors. Too this day I cannot speak about what happened with Chicago, Las Vegas so on. As I was only commanded to shoot, not partake in the politics. All I knew was my loyalty to JackRuby and Kimble. I upheld that to the highest standard for some time, whether you as their sons or daughters want to admit it or not. They said jump I said how high and hell you know what I'm getting at. So anyhow back to that day and being informed that Asylum had gone to Ronin. I went to a meeting with JackRuby, Sinfest and Crystalize. When I arrived they told me we were going to war, and that it was against Ronin himself. I asked for them to pause in which they obliged. I asked why, and Jack stated it was because someone had gone to Kimble saying that Ronin was taking up arms to attack. Just hearing this from someone who had spoke to Ronin, a switch flipped in my head. Now let me remind you Ronin was actually an alliance so even if I was to speak to him prior to hearing this and if he was to tell me from his own mouth that he heard this I still was in no wrong. This is yet to be my mistake. So knowing Asylum, (the one who wanted plans for himself, the one who wanted Chicago for himself, the one who wanted to take out Detroit over a rogue who took out his LH who he did nothing but complain about) was involved I had to say something. I asked JackRuby to hold on. He obliged yet again so I stated my concerns. I asked if said rumours of Ronin coming after New York came from Asylums mouth. The response I received was less then appealing. Mind you I'm a leader within this fine city and what im told is that, "I doubt this came from Asylum, it doesnt matter anyhow this is going to happen it's too late. Hurry and get locals." Now we had lost a lot of friends at this point, a lot of the community had been gun downed. I didnt want the work of a mad man (I only say this because myself and a few other crew leaders themselves have in fact been told since that these were his intentions) to be the death of a city to city alliance pushing him closer to his goal. Upset I returned to my friend to vent and explain there was no turning back being I was told to get locals just to find out after I made those comments that Ronin was in fact in the next room listening in to our conversation. He popped his head out and asked if this was accurate, I explained what was going on with Asylum and decided to revert back to Jack to try another attempt of a cease fire. By time I arrived they had reached their demise. I understand I made a mistake in attempt to hold fire, I take full credit for that. Howver, even if I hadnt, a mistake would have been made in eleiminating PH and potentially anyone else who felt the move was wrong, especially after finding out the commotion came from Asylum himself. Now I dont mind being the Scapegoat and taking the heat for my mistake. I miss each and everyone of them. This has not been an easy road, I have been attecked verbally in private, threatened, and of course hitlisted. The record setting hitlist that I will stand here and say that I will not make an effort to but off. I have a city to build, all of my funds are going to those who need it. With that being said, I would like to touch base with those who are making these hits now that this so called dirty laundry has been exposed. Not only are you being contradictive by saying my loyalties are false, yet your sitting in families who are housing you while your using money that could be helping them just to hitlist over aa grudge to prey the mean old Durden gang will end my life, but your hurting those you once cared about who survived. Well you know what, Tyler will hit eventually, we all know that is a given so basically I'm just counting my days until the bitch from Delaware gets lucky and manages to bypass a bullet through my bodyguards and hit me. You all will win, actually no you will not win because in the end result, Asylum gpt what he wanted. I can live with that, know why? Because I'm doing what I can for the benefit of the community and for those who have the oppurtunity to make something special out of New York. With that being said Id like to make some of you think about this. I am just one person, however, I am a person who oversees the reconstruction and who appoints who is in charge so on. Now, I know a lot of those who had fallen are great friends with some of those who are being given oppurtunities within this fine city. The basis of this is simple, your actions by attempting to get me killed for your misunderstanding of events and only what you want to hear is not only making you smile, but its hurting those some of you fathers and mothers called friends. I plea only for their sake not my own. Will I retire? Well the former Right Hand to Asylum, the same man who pleaded for his life which lead to me and Spikes safelisting while later falling to a protection attempt, has a son who contacted me in private to inform me that those hitlisting me will quit if I retire while apologizing after handing out crumpets and tea. Yes his very words, the same man whose father pleed for his life, which we granted but sadly due to tragedy didnt pan out. I have come out like you all have wanted. I have expresssed my side of the story rather clearly. I admitted to my mistake, and beleive or not I miss those lost every day. This was not a power move, because I was to be given a district anyhow for me to flourish. So for me to turn on those who raised me just does not add up. I have struggled, and I have managed, however if you feel that I wanted this way of life, the abuse, the criticism and most of all the putting those who we all called great friends in risk due to the possibilty of me being shot whether Tyler or not is just insane. Regardless of how you feel, how much you may hate to hear it, its the truth. To end it, I do truly miss everyone, I just wish their siblings could truly take this to heart and let bygons be bybons. Im sorry if this may seem rused but it wasnt the easiest speech Ive had to make. I hope this clears the air, and whether or not the hitlisting stops I can hold my head up high knowing I made my mistakes with only the purest intentions. If you cant forgive my actions at least take into consideration those you are effecting community wide. Regardless I'm here till the light fades to black. Much love. WiggleDick |
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For some people, all they care about is self-preservation. They can talk about loyalty etc. But with a gun to their head they take any route to survive. No matter if it means the death of most of their city. I don't know what else you are after Don Wiggle if after all your city has fallen you are happy to still play alliances with the people that killed them. |
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| Reply by: LordToaly at Jan 22, '16 09:06 | |
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Many apologies, I of course meant Godfather Wiggle. |
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| Reply by: LordToaly at Jan 22, '16 10:43 | |
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You are probably the biggest reason that Kimble is dead. If Ronin doesn't 'overhear' you (very cowardly way to say you told him by the way) saying that locals are being gathered on Philly, he doesn't shoot Kimble, it's as simple as that. Yes, it's possible that if a war broke out, that Ronin wasn't killed in the first wave and then subsequently went on to beat Kimble's pro'ers and Kimble end up dead anyway. Of course that's a possibility, however there's a very small chance of that happening. You made it one hundred percent certain that Kimble was going to die. Regardless of how you try to say you're not guilty of this and not guilty of that, and that you always had their backs, you're the reason these 'friends' of yours are dead. You can't have had their backs at all, otherwise you wouldn't have done what you did. This seems like a very poor attempt to make you look like the good guy rather than the bad guy, and try to pass blame onto someone else, and if it pulls the wool over anyone's eyes I will be very surprised. After all, you did right by your city didn't you? Just sent your Godfather to slaughter at the hands of another city. That was definitely the best course of action. Ha. Rest in Peace Kimble. Treachery has got to be one of the worst ways to go. |
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| Reply by: DaKurlzz at Jan 22, '16 12:43 | |
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Godfather Wigglebottom, i apologize if this comes across as disrepectful, but as an outiside observer it has always appeared to me and mine, that your entire schtick is to stir the pot. To have haters. Yet now that you actually have some, you crumble. You come out to our streets with your heart on your sleeve like a little girl and admit you are counting your days like a coward. It's pathetic. You act like its noble not to place the costs of your hitlistings on your city, the city you lead, so that they may use the funds to do what exactly? Really, what do you think will happen to the auths you take such pride in when you and the connections you have dissapear. How long do you think they will last? Will you not fight for you and yours? There are many who would kill to be in the position you are in, likely even people with-in YOUR city. I suppose a part of me can understand how you may hold little value for the opportunity you have right now, seeing as your bloodline is likely to be granted it again, but i guess thats probably a subject better suited for another disscussion going on right now. All in all, man the fuck up. |
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| Reply by: Kp at Jan 22, '16 12:47 | |
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| Yes, I suspect all the people Kimble shot in the back are probably saying the exact same thing DaKurlz.. | |
| Reply by: umist at Jan 22, '16 12:58 | |
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Now having listened to all these versions of events and the outcry over the death of Kimble i am quite surprised how Asylum takes the blame for all of this. Was it not Kimble who wanted Asylum dead along with Jake_Ballard and Ronin? Asylum is paranoid i wonder why when his OWN Godfather wants him dead i mean its all here in this phone that happened to fall into the wrong hands and be leaked for everyone to see. I just cant feel sorry for the chain of events that led to the demise of kimble i feel for the others who met there fate over his own doing. |
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| Reply by: Lister at Jan 22, '16 13:21 | |
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You're very quick to point fingers. You're very quick to be paranoid, you're also very quick to ask "phantom" people, to come to public light... All I see is you explaining your actions in a very very detailed manner, almost as if you don't wanna seem like a dick head for everything you did.... Truth is you should have went with the ship, had JesusChristo known at the time you were the reason Kimble died, I highly doubt he would have asked to be spared. It was a very touchy and light time, as you said. You're quick to get paranoid as soon as it's over, "Godfather". All this talk, all this work, to be handed a paranoid platter, I hope it's worth it. I wished I could say you made your life easier, but I somehow think you made it worse :/... If that was truly possible. |
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| Reply by: Elvar-Meeuwe at Jan 22, '16 13:49 | |
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What has happened in the past remains between you and the ancestors of Mr Kimble. People may have their own opinions on the matter and talk behind your back but talk is cheap and unless someone wishes to step up to the plate and challenge your leadership of New York, then you don't need to worry your pretty head... |
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| Reply by: MotherTrucker at Jan 22, '16 22:37 | |
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In my opinion, from the whatsapp messages listed by Lister that Kimble, and his crew had it coming by two-timing everyone. I applaud Ronin for taking action before they killed him which was inevitable. Moreover, congratulations to Wiggle as you deserve this opportunity! |
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| Reply by: Rembrandt at Jan 23, '16 01:47 | |
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Considering the proof about the whatsapp photos that have been leaked by this one guy, kinda tells pretty much everything considering it seemed like a debate and how they were giving orders and deciding who's what. So, doesn't make any sense anymore as Ronin took action and no enjoyment in killing his friend (if that how it was.) |
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| Reply by: Montesdeoca at Jan 23, '16 02:03 | |
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dontbemad spots WiggleButt trying to wiggle out
You are not only full of shit but you are the epitome of a traitor and coward. Thanks for confirming you do not, nor will not fight for your own. You ought to take your butt back to the basics. Family above all. |
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| Reply by: dontbemad at Jan 23, '16 02:59 | |
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Silence is golden. Just kill the bastard |
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| Reply by: dontbemad at Jan 23, '16 06:40 | |
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How naive do you have to be to still believe in "good guy vs bad guy?" |
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| Reply by: Muerte_Roja at Jan 23, '16 09:09 | |
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