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True Colours | Started by: TigerLionEagleSHARK on Jan 11, '10 12:46 |
Stepping out into the street, the strange hybrid known as TigerLionEagleSHARK, rubs his hands together, working some warmth into them. The look on his face was one of deep thought, eyebrows scrunched up and eyes focussed on something. There had been something on his mind for a while now, and he was anxious to get others opinions on the matter. Coughing into his clenched fist, he gained the attention of the few people around him, and with this started to talk to them People of the streets, this world of ours revolves around a few principles. Of course we all know the obvious ones; respect, omerta, loyalty, etc. But what about the one everyone works to avoid? The act that few enjoy, and everyone for the best part does everything they can to stop happening. What I'm talking of is war. Yes that lovely period of bloodshed, man versus man, family versus family, city versus city. Is it not a well known fact that war goes hand in hand with this life of ours? Would it therefore mean that peoples true colours are not known until war is commenced? Do families not let their true opinions be known for fear of war breaking out if another family does not agree with them? My ancestors have known times of war, and it was at this time that the true nature of this life became known to them. To me, it seems as if everything between these acts of brutality is just a lull, a period where people are just preparing. As I see it, war is inevitable, there will always be bloodshed in this life of ours. No one can agree with everyone, and none should expect this of anyone. Yet it seems that at the moment, everything is stable in this world of ours, and has been for a very long time, but for how long? Those that say war is unlikely, are you hiding yourselves from the truth, just so you can sleep easy at night? |
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War and bloodshed is far from a principle in this thing of ours. Power is what we aim for and if a few lives need to be spared in the process then it happens but why risk your life if there is a safer way to do so. People that come to the streets looking for war and death look at life like a game, like you can just start over where you left off when someone blew your brains out. If I am going to work my ass off to build an empire, why would I haul off and start shooting people and lose my life when there could have just been negotiations to handle the problem at hand. I am not saying I am against the use of deadly force but pick your battles. |
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Reply by: Advantage at Jan 11, '10 13:33 | |
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Advantage. You say power is what people crave. To gain ultimate power in this world you must be the big dog. No-one is currently striving to be that. Instead they are happily awaiting someone to make a grab for it and then slap him down together. I think they all assume that an equal share of the pie is the way forward. I tell you this now. You remember Mem. Your remember UncleNicky. You remember tita. You remember Ganelon.You remember FlyingPig. You will remember (this burns) Marietta. How many of our leaders out there will honestly say they have left an imprint on this world big enough to be remembered? |
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Reply by: bighead at Jan 11, '10 14:41 | |
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It was an issue that has been discussed, perhaps in the shadows, for quite some time. Although not set out into clear points this speech has many merits and deserves more than to be ignored by any of those in power to date. 26 of you were walking the streets out of 76 of us when he first spoke these words. In that time many have wandered down to congratulate another new captain. Bold suits were on a half price sale down the tailors last week you know.. It seems the easy route has been taken, the speech ignored and the guns will continue to be trained. You all know the shot will ring out. This man stood before you has put into words what every mobster on these shores is thinking. Perhaps someone better act before it reaches the destination it intends. The actions is yours. Although you may not control the reaction what can Thugs do when their fathers are dead? Alas, what do I know? I am but a lowly Made Man. It isn't the rank it used to be you know. Dons the new Gangster. |
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Reply by: bighead at Jan 11, '10 19:05 | |
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Wrong. As much as I love to see this sort of things in our streets, I can't simply agree with the "we need war" mentality. Because, simply, we don't. There is no necessity for war. We can sit for months at a time, making our money, buying our bodyguards, and training our guns. But we aren't lacking "the desire to fight", because no one needs< conflict. What this speech SHOULD inspire, however, is greed. Once we're completely content, we lose our motivation to do what needs to be done. We can idle in peace, which no one objects to. |
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Reply by: Mux at Jan 11, '10 19:29 | |
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Yes Mux he did make that great point, But also as stated part of the You say people don't need "Ultimate Power" true, But people |
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Reply by: Bald_Scouse_Virgin at Jan 11, '10 19:52 | |
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I believe I heard a wise man rambling on a street corner, and his words have great relevance to this speech. He said that we should all stand up against the "soft bigotry of low expectations." I don't think anyone in this life of ours should ever be content to sit back and let their businesses stagnate. We're mobsters, not the quilting club. |
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Reply by: Lucretia_Borgia at Jan 11, '10 19:55 | |
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Everyone knows that war is a major part to this thing of ours, usually people will be told that war has taken place due to some reason or another, but the real agendas behind this will most likely be boredom or because ultimately, someone does want power. After all, one leader's death is another leader's profit. |
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Reply by: TesleR at Jan 12, '10 03:26 | |
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It's not a case of ignoring the speech, it's having something to say about it that we don't all already know. We all know that death comes with this life we choose and we all know that wars are absolutely inevitable. The peace inbetween? Inevitable. People getting bored of the peace and bringing the discussion to the streets? Inevitable. The question is not 'if' but always 'when', when it comes to wars. The longest peace will always eventually be punctuated by a war. People know this without it being said. As it is currently, we have a period of peace with the eight cities running along autonomously, making money under their respective leadership. It's as much part of this thing as war. |
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Reply by: BoabyWanKenobi at Jan 12, '10 04:24 | |
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TigerLionEagleSHARK, wars in this thing of ours is normal when mafias from other cities or within cities got conflict, thats the way we handle things when there is a conflict inevitable? tell me about it..Bottomline, we dont want war, power, money and desire to be on the top of our cosa nostra, however when a rouge comes or any kinds of conflict comes, we need a war.. As for the power, indeed everyone loves power hell if you dont want it then you must be dead by now in some trash killed by someone who loves power.. and guess what some became impatient to have their spot so they decide the other way to gain power..yeah thats war again. Overall, war is always there..its just needs someone to turn on the switch, to pull the trigger, to ignite the fire, to launch the attack... well you got the point right?.. |
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Reply by: pucky_returns at Jan 12, '10 06:12 | |
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I think war is not as inevitable as some of you might have us believe. Orchestrated maybe, possible certainly, but not inevitable and not by chance. Anyone even partially astute is bound to notice this thing is more theater than reality. Personally, I have yet to see any power struggles and the only war I know of was started by schoolyard children who simply couldn't get along, it had absolutely nothing to do with business or money or power. The bond that exists between leaders of the cities can outweighs the bonds in their own families, thus keeping a peace that defies the very nature of the "mob". |
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Reply by: Salvatore_Anastasia at Jan 12, '10 07:34 | |
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hmm, I agree to a point that this speech is one those to surface around these streets during a time when there is a period of peace. However, what this fine young chap is asking of the leaders is if they are biting tounges. It certainly seems, from an outside perspective, that people are trying their very hardest to not post anything that could have even the slightest bit of an edge in it. Opinions about those around them, good or bad, are being only discussed behind closed doors. I actually quite liked the speech. I thought that although it is another "OMGZ I NEED WAR!" speech he has looked at it from a different perspective. Have we now got to a point where leaders are too afraid to speak their minds knowing that bloodlust is there and they could be cast out of the circle and beaten down for speaking out against something or someone? I know in the years my bloodline has graced these shores I have never ever known this place to be so 'nicey nicey' on the streets. There has to be a reason for it and he was offering a suggestion that I thought only the leaders themselves could answer if they so wished. Are the collective 'you' biting your tounges in fear of being the one to be taken out? Or are you all just truly living happily ever after? |
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Reply by: bighead at Jan 12, '10 13:13 | |
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Reply by: Oderus at Jan 12, '10 13:41 | |
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We obviously do hang out on very different street corners and read very different newspapers. Mind, I hear there is a newspaper coming that may just cause a bit of a stir.. I recognise the now censored newspaper caused a little storm in a teapot. But that is a newspaper. Is it not what it's meant to do? What I am talking about, in regards to the streets at least, is that that there is no-one currently out there who will actually speak thir mind on issues. There are ways of doing so without offending and without being disrespectful. The problem is now that because we have seen nothing for so long, Grin being the only recent example in my eyes, that anyone who now begins to come out of their shell may be slapped down. I feel there is a very much a 'aprty line' agreed upon by the leaders and they all go down that route on any chosen subject for fear of being the outcast. However, I feel I am repeating myself a tad in this speech now. If a new point is rasied I will happily debate away but I will refrain from posting in regards to spoken, or should I say non-spoken opinions, for now.. |
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Reply by: bighead at Jan 12, '10 13:51 | |
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Nobody who will speak their mind? Nobody willing to unbite their tongue? I shall unbite my tongue and tell you to shut it! I always have and always will speak my mind. If you don't like it? Great. If it upsets you? Even better. If you say something that upsets me, the more upset you get at my retort the better!
Are the collective 'you' biting your tounges in fear of being the one to be taken out? Or are you all just truly living happily ever after? |
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Reply by: Deimne at Jan 12, '10 15:30 | |
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Although this may be seen as another "wheres the war, I need me some war" speech, that isnt what I had intended it to be. I was merely asking if, in these times of extended peace, people were more likely to (excuse me) grin and let matters slide, for fear of upsetting the norm. I am in no way attacking leaders or their ability to eloquently bring their thoughts to us all in the streets, I am just alluding to the fact that when times are hard and we are stricken with war, are you leaders more likely to air your dirty laundry (so to speak), rather than skirt round issues respectfully? I am well aware of the fact that this life of ours can survive for generations without war, as at present we are in the midst of such an age. The comment I made on the inevitability of war was not meant as a personal reflection on my love of the act. I do enjoy these times of peace as they allow me to constructively live out my life in a more creative way, rather than just pushing buttons to get ahead in this life. In these times, I feel able to discuss matters and build relationships easier, as I know many will be around for longer, including myself (hopefully). And although I am not one to be scared of speaking my mind, I did not in anyway intended to disrespect any leaders or fellow mafiosa in my speech. |
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Reply by: TigerLionEagleSHARK at Jan 12, '10 15:47 | |
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"I always have and always will speak my mind. If you don't like it? Trust me. I like it. Upset me? Why would it. Opinions are like arseholes. Mine is as right as yours. Except you hold the power I mentioned earlier. If I upset you then so be it. I await your retort or your bullet.. What I said was probably not written in the 'How to stay alive in the mob' handbook. It was risque at best and downright stupid at worst however sometimes you just have to speak your mind, right Deimne? What I was hoping for is the reply you gave. To somehow prove to me, not that anyone needs to in a position of power, for my own clarification, that there are actually those out there who will still come out here and actually challenge something which someone has to say.. As for the broad stick comment. I said what I said in a question form. Not as a challenge to find out who would A. Challenge me and B. Shoot me. I hope those who feel that I have purposefully walked out here and stuck two fingers up to you that I have not. I merely asked a few questions of those in power. You didn't have to answer. At times I didn't expect an answer but it was very informative none the less. I hope to hear from more of you. Obviously the choice is yours but unless you have any particular issue with me then I will not be frequenting this corner again. I will leave you to your business.. |
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Reply by: bighead at Jan 12, '10 16:52 | |
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After several days upon hearing salvatore_anastasia's opinion..it deeply troubled me and with that saying, ill like to express yet again some puzzling question of our leaders as of today.. Wow is war really orchestrated by the leaders,much like a "dynasty".? That statement puts a huge spit on the face of the leaders today..Ill be damned if this is true.. |
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Reply by: pucky_returns at Jan 13, '10 08:20 | |
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Let me first apologize for any offense to you Mr. Returns. I have nothing but respect for your position and your painting abilities. It was not my intention to offend, just to offer my street observations and interpretations as asked. But lets get to the relevant conundrum before I expire or something. I actually think dynasty is an apt term, and why not? There is nothing wrong with a good dynasty or two. Perhaps someone of my low rank should not speak so. If this is true it is a sad day when the most excitement we see is the death of a loud mouth wise guy. |
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Reply by: Salvatore_Anastasia at Jan 13, '10 19:27 | |
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Puck burst out laughing as salvatore apologize to him.. no need to apologize to me, ive known your father and he is quite a guy like you. Yes, by saying some daring or maybe stupid things, youd considered it as death as punishment..Hell i dont even really care about dynasty as long as there is balance or fairness.. oh right life is unfair, and more with mafia.. Puck then go straight ahead at the bar to grab some drink.. |
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Reply by: pucky_returns at Jan 13, '10 19:47 | |
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