Rayln, SpikeS, Who is The Leader?

A man stumbles on to a podium in Downtown Detroit, barely able to stand from the punches he got in retaliation from the other attackers killing his father, he forces himself to stand up as straight as he possibly can and starts to address the crowd, blood trickling from his lips and voice hoarse...

This has to STOP! - Blood lines stretch farther than you want them too...

This thing we have here is taking a very bad turn, a turn for the worst you could say, and the people in charge are the ones to blame. A long time we had tyrants like DeadlySin, Anita, The 303 and they all had a bit of tact when it came to dealing with bloodlines that disagreed with them... In today's world there is no tact, they find fathers children and then they kill them, if they attempt to even try and work hard it's pointless.

I can't say this clearly enough, when someone does something like rogue, attacks your family, beats on your wife and you then kill them...The deed has been done, you don't need to then proceed to kill there cousins, uncles and children. The debt has been paid.

If you know for certain that there son, brother, mother, uncle jimmy or even cousin stu seeks revenge or cause havoc, then by all means do what you need to do but........ If they start a clean slate and work hard for a family then leave them the fuck alone, it's not your duty to kill the rest of their bloodline because of your dislike, this is the mafia, not a pig kill and we are supposed to have standards.

That's one side of it...The other side is this...

Fucking stick up for your family douche bags...

So New York, Philly...A Detroit agent has come a knocking and they say (oh I dunno) AZ needs to die, for example, and you then parade down into a Brooklyn bar and say "oh we're sorry but Detroit has asked for your head, thanks for all your hard work though..." BANG!!......

....Fuck OFF!

You bitches annoy me more than them other Tyrants telling you to do it... I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a member of one of these cities, when you can't even get protected by your own leader, if someone from another city comes and says you have to die. They even kill people by chance just in case you do happen to be someone else, don't believe me? Then your blind and as good as dead.

Stick up for your members, we all know some Crew Leaders rarely care about their members, they just want the spotlight and when given a chance to either stick up for their members and go to war or have their members killed and keep their own measly lives they choose the the latter.

This is why you have a choice when you begin this life, to choose someone who will stick up for you and reward your hard work, it's very rare and that's why this recent death of AZ has told us that he made a mistake, he joined the wrong family, but did he really have much of a choice? Who knows? Is anyone out there with the strength to protect a member of their family at all costs?

People will come out and talk like they always have "I love all my members they are so great" " I would never hurt them" "I always stick by my family no matter what"

So when let's say SpikeS comes to your door and tells you that JimmyJoe the Capo in your family needs to die because he doesn't like the look of him... What's your answer? Do you try a bit of begging first? "Oh this guy is alright he never done anything wrong. Please, he is ok" or do you say "No problem ole Spike ole boy this cats going into my back yard with the rest of them..."

All this shit I said? Probably not grammatically correct. Do I care? Nope.

What I care about is a real leader stepping up, someone who can turn around and say "No" when a big bad wolf comes to blow their house down. Stick up for yourself and then you will be able to help others. Don't let bullies decide your fate.

Blood pouring down the mans nose and mouth had dried in to make a purple color...

Kanger walks up to Jeremy and hands him a tissue.

While I agree with most of all that you have said, especially that of blood lining. You can't believe anyone will take you seriously looking like that. This is the Mafia luv, Have some respect for your self and clean up.

Kanger shakes his head and walks away removing a bottle of whiskey from within his jacket.

I have it on very good authority that DeadlySin never gave a fuck about bloodlines that disagreed with him, and he let them all do whatever they wanted until they overstepped the mark and earned their death - just like any other person in our world.

"My daddy died, waahh wahh wahhhhhh". Honestly, get over yourself. This ridiculous parade achieves nothing other than making you look like a fool. It doesn't matter what your actual point is anymore, your tone and behaviour makes everything you've said a pile of shit. Well done. I'd pat you on the head in a condescending way, but I don't wanna risk catching whatever disease it is that has made you act like this.

You have to ask yourself this question before you start standing on your milk crate. What's worth more in the long run? The life of one person, or the lives of your entire city? Denying the request of kill AZ could have lead to the removal of New York as a whole. I'm merely speculating here, I have no ideas about the request, the killer, or whom this person even was.

I don't know much about the situation so I am only going to comment on Ragnarok's reply.

Are you suggesting that someone who works hard should just be shot on a say so? I mean that doesn't sound like valuing members to me or their hard work. Seems like a waste of time.

Are you suggesting that someone who works hard should just be shot on a say so? I mean that doesn't sound like valuing members to me or their hard work. Seems like a waste of time.

 What I would have done, and what happened are two vastly different things. Everyone handles situations differently, I was just offering an opinion on why this may have occurred.

I am the leader.

If someone is to be shot just coz another city wants it, doesnt give the most confidence as what if next week is an NY leader whose heads on the block? how can loyalty and confidence be bred in such conditions

Shakes his head and sighs. 

I don't know why I get myself into these things.  But, fuck it.  I'm going to anyway.  

First of all.  The best part of your speech was your grammar.  

While I agree with DeadlySin, I'm going to comment on some of this shit anyway, because I want to, and because you took some shots at my city, and it's clear you've never been  here.  It's also clear you've never had a single conversation with Godfather Spike, and it's likely none of your ancestors had any conversations with him either.  

And I'm a little tired of people buying these speeches hook, line and sinker.  You say there are a bunch of crewleaders without backbone so therefore, there are people out there who believe it.  It's been said, so it must be true.  It's on the streets, so it must be true.  Pfft.  Whatever. 

Let me tell you what it doesn't take backbone to do.  It doesn't take backbone to come out here as a gangster and bitch about shit you know nothing about.  

My guess is you don't know 95% (or more) of the crewleaders out there, and therefore, you have no clue how many of them have any backbone.  I know for sure you are not privy to any of the conversations that I've had with my Godfather, nor do you know what I'm willing to do for my family or for my city.  

And what's this nonsense about a crewleader standing up to his Godfather?  There is an order of things.  And up at the top of that order of things is the Godfather.  So, let's not talking about "standing up to" the Godfather.  Let's frame the discussion a little better.  There's no need to stand up to your Godfather.  Again, he's not a bully.  He's your boss.  You have discussions, meetings, and you come to a decision together.  So, why is there this discussion of "standing up to" him like he's an adversary.  That's not the case.   

Sometimes life is a little more complicated than you make it out to be in this little speech of yours.  And sometimes crewleaders are called on to make tough decisions.  And sometimes, just sometimes, when they make those tough decisions, it doesn't mean they have no backbone, but that they've weighed more than you think when making that decision.  And maybe, that decision took a little more courage than you've given them credit for, so think about that. 

But, I know you won't think about that.  You're too busy whining.  

Hulk-A-Mania hears a stirring in the streets. A calming was there until a rebel rouser decided to ask the question who was really in charge. Hulk-A-Mania couldn't stand for this. Whether it was a RayIn or a SpikeS they all needed to know it was Hulk who was in charge. The music began playing in the streets! Hulk strolled on down the main streets randomly stopping only to flex in front of people and quickly picked up the already beaten up man just to  scoop slam him on the pavement. Just before he was about to perform his atomic Leg drop someone decided to hand the hulkster a microphone. The microphone seemed to work flawlessly in the streets. Its like this was predestined. 

WELL YOU KNOW SOMETHING BROTHER, I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GET OFF ASKING THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS! YOU KNOW DUDE ITS ALWAYS BEEN ME, THE IMMORTAL HULK HOGAN WHO IS THE TOP GUN! 

Hulk performed the atomic leg drop and watched Jeremy flail his limbs wildly. Hulk began to rip his shirt in half and parade around the streets with mobsters cheering wildly for him. His mustache, his yellow underwear, his high boots and his voice of thunder made every heart pound. Apparently the Hulkster had more to say after dismantling the young Jeremy.

BEFORE I MAKE MY EXIT OUTTA THE STREETS BROTHER I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT HULK HOGAN HAS THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD! THE HULK-A-MANIACS ARE THE MOST LOYAL BUNCH OF PEOPLE YOU WILL EVER MEET. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH LOYALTY BROTHER AND I DARE SAY THAT LOYALTY COMES WITH A PRICE! I THINK YOU GOTTA REMEMBER DUDE THAT TO FIND A GOOD LOYAL CREW YOU MUST FIRST PRESENT YOURSELF AS A GOOD LOYAL MEMBER! AS ONE OF THE TOP TEN HULK-A-MANIAC RULES GOES, BE LOYAL TO RECEIVE LOYALTY BROTHER! 

The music immediately started playing in the streets. Hulk was alive! Hulk was back! There was something that lit a fire for the man. Something that just got him to get up and get out there. There was no doubt that from this point forward the world would never be the same! 

WiggleFanGirl4Lyfe had been watching as this all played out. Like many others, he had no intention to reply to Jeremy, but after listening to a few others, he decided he would. 

It sounds like you’re crying over a glass of spilt milk Jeremy. If not, maybe you should take up a career of comedic stage performer. You’ve gotten more chuckles and subtle laughter out of most of today. 

WFG4L smirked and shook his head.

If you want for us to take you seriously, well, maybe you should consider a different approach. Immediately coming out here with your self righteous attitude isn’t the best way to go. Specially when you attempt to point fingers at the Godfathers of our world like they are bloodlining all willy nilly. There are two definitions of bloodlining. A true one and a wrong one. I know logic is hard to grasp, but I’ll break it down for you. 

Correct: Killing each generation from a family lineage for no reason is bloodlining.

Incorrect: Killing each new generation because they are up to no good and can’t learn from their father’s, grandfather’s (etc) mistakes is not bloodlining. 

No one was paying attention to AZ. Sure, people had tabs on him and knew his family tree, but he wasn’t a concern of anyone. He wasn’t a high risk. He wasn’t anything special to anyone outside of the crew he belonged to. AZ was just another member of the life of crime. If AZ was killed because of who his father, a correct form of bloodlining, why would he had been able to reach the rank of Consig and also, live for so long? The “facts” you stand on are weak at best. If they were to be splashed in a puddle they’d dissolve just as quickly as they were conjured out of bullshit up. 

AZ didn’t die because of who his father was. AZ died because of what AZ was up to. This is not bloodlining. Try again. 

WFG4L paused a moment.

The moment you opened your mouth Jeremy you dribbled out weak ass bullshit, so I’m not going to spend much time on this backbone issue you’ve “brought up”. People that understand our way of life also understand chain of command. Jeremy, obviously you don’t understand this. Hopefully your son will be born with a better brain than you were. 

"No problem ole Spike ole boy this cats going into my back yard with the rest of them..."

George takes a stroll in the streets with SpikeS. Coming up to a puddle George removes his jacket and lays it down for Spike to walk over. George then picks up the sopping wet sports coat and hands it over to Jeremy.

Sorry Jeremy, but I will keep this short and sweet for you.

In SpikeS we trust!

With every muscle in her body hurting and her fucking feet screaming in pain, Zootopia makes her way down the busy streets. She hears voices but one stood out among them all. She slowly turns her aching neck left and recognizes her CL, WillHayes engaged in a conversation. Thinking it is just like him to take the time to address and reason with anyone who is frustrated and distraught.  Zootopia twist the cap off another Damn Best Cherry Cola and takes a long swig pondering the issue(s) brought to the table for open discussion by jeremy.

My brain is in overdrive after a long day. I got some thoughts and questions but because of the time of day,  I will prioritize.  For starters, being afforded and given a definitive meaning of bloodlining up in here, I would have to say unless ONE allows ONLY ONE to know who their lineage was,  there would not be anything such as this so called bloodlining. But it happens and for reasons such as taking the reign again and again. However, in your case, based on what my Cl WillHayes spoke on, I do not see how bloodlining is relevant.

I am a tough one to keep on board and I highly suggest you take heed to WillHayes.

Dee causally walking past the big herd of people, pumps his fist in the air and shouts 

" Spikes the leader. In spike we trust" 

Dee continues his walks through the neighborhoods

First of all, my daddy didn't die through bloodlining, my daddy just likes to start fights. 

DeadlySin, you agree with me in every way, your simply afraid to agree because you feel the need to defend your city.

Correct: Killing each generation from a family lineage for no reason is bloodlining.

Incorrect: Killing each new generation because they are up to no good and can’t learn from their father’s, grandfather’s (etc) mistakes is not bloodlining. 

-WFG4L

Ehhhhhhhhh, didn't I say that? Wise up.

The upper hierarchy of these days kill people when they grow a big enough gun or they find out who they are, simple as that. Defending what you don't have is simply all you have. 

 And I'm a little tired of people buying these speeches hook, line and sinker.  You say there are a bunch of crewleaders without backbone so therefore, there are people out there who believe it.  It's been said, so it must be true.  It's on the streets, so it must be true.  Pfft.  Whatever. 

-Willhayes

Dude, are you serious? Look at yourself. If SpikeS comes up to you and says we found out your member Bigcharlie is BOD, he needs to die. What would your honest response be? 

I'm not BOD, nor was I AZ, I just used that as an example.

You guys are mearly trying to keep up appearances.

As for my status? What do you expect me to look like? Who do you expect me to join? Who could save me from this tyranny? 

It's delievered with no tact, they simple do what they want. Simply don't understand the game and the members about these days have no backbone to out and out agree with me, the other leaders are sheep...

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But when backbone was delivered on these streets, what was your response?

I vote SpikeS beings Rayln is a follower.

Sorry Comrade but you should not be surprised to what we just learned.