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Hmmm. Who To Choose Started by: Washington on Dec 08, '07 16:05
"Why even play anymore?"


That's your proof?


What was the context of that statement?


I'm asking that question now. Why live in this world anymore? I've presented my reasons, and yet it seems as though you still want to point at the death of one of my relatives as your proof. Surely, it's not for the reasons I keep presenting. No. It must be because one of my ancestors died.


Again. Facts. Learn to deal in those.
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Are you actually denying that you said that while in a little hissy fit about dying?
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I am. Any person with half a brain should realize that VonGaunt was upset with the lies and false accusations thrown at the Java Cartel, and not about dying at all. Anyone that knew him would know that to be 100% true, and anyone that bothered to hear the concerns and complaints his ancestors have put forward would be able to come to the exact same conclusion.


Again, label me as you will due to that. I'll assume you'll be wishing a disease on me soon as well. The fact is, I, Washington, have come forward with a few concerns, and you have yet to address those. It's your right to keep assuming and dealing with happenings in the past, but it has been my goal to bring to light a few problems I see with the present.
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Fair enough you have your own opinion. Though how could you know all this only being such a low rank? So your ancestors left you behind some stories for you to reflect on?


Calling leaders lazy?


Well your too lazy to join a crew because you think there going to be shot. Everyone is going to be die sometime, and i don't see why you get to be the one choosing how the die.


Your pointing out there faults and forgetting your own. You didn't really have nothing good to say about anyone except for Sal, but he has only started give him a few weeks and no doubt you'll find something bad to say about him.
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FlyingWig walks past hearing the conversation and decides to have his two cents


Firstly;


The mere fact that you would rate the crew leaders and then try to belittle them with a rating is more than enough ammunition as to why they should not bother with you!


Coming to these streets seeking shelter and a place to go... most would not go the way you have done,


Have you spoken to JohnnyAxe?, if not i suggest you do not judge a book by it's cover, sure you may know of him and have heard rumour's but rumour's are just that! get some facts before you accuse!


As for your rambling's about the other leader's, so what if one is only a wise-guy, he has done a damn site more than you or most to earn his bold suit in the heirachy,


please earn some stature my irrated little friend and then come back and state your point, perhaps maybe people will take notice!

FlyingWig glares at the irrated individual and walks in to the nearby coffee shop
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I love the "earn stature, then speak" argument.


First off, why would someone earn stature, speak their mind, and then be shot for it anyway? What a waste.


Of course my ancestors have seen a lot. Now, because I've heard it from them, does it make my concerns any less true? Of course not. That's ridiculous.


Another point I'd like to make is, just because you don't like hearing it, doesn't make it true. Again, deal with the points at hand. Yes, crewleaders have been lazy. Care to prove me wrong? Sure, not all of them have taken the time to become known in the streets. Care to say thats not true?


Look at the points and stick to them. You can question my lineage, you can question my motives, you can make your assumptions about what I think, etc., etc., and yet...does it make anything I've once said any less true from my perspective? Disagree with what I've said, not with who I am or who you assume I am.


And yes...I have spoken to JohnnyAxe. I have immense respect for the man behind the character, and he knows how I feel about that. What does that matter? We're all entitled to opinions and living the way we choose to live.
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Alright. To all you stupid motherfucking asswhipes out there, I shall speak clearly on what he means.


Crewleaders are shit. They will die easy. Make better ones next time. Don't go by CoffeeShop freinds on picking... Crewleaders.


I... speak... clearly, now?


There... aren't we all happy now? Hopefully, you all can understand now.
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OK, firstly, you are using the "My lineage deserve's respect" arguement, i didnt question your lineage once during my speech i was merely pointing out your dis-respect to your maybe future providers.


and


you contradict yourself with Johnny's "Do as I say, not as I do" policy, if you have spoken to him and have respect for him, why come to our street's and use him as an example to put a crewleader down?


Secondly,


Where did i say i dont like hearing your speech?, in your view , some leaders may have been lazy, does'nt erase the fact that they have been chosen to lead inspite of that, i mean.. they must be doing something right!


I have heard a few like these and they always raise a smile,


My point remains, " Dont bite the hand that feeds you or is soon to feed you".
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I guess I should take it as a compliment that "the biggest problem" you can find with me is my RHW. That's pretty much nicer words than you had for any of my fellow family heads.


But, at the end of the day, you are just another asshole bitching in the streets because there was a war, and Daddy's side got raped. We won, you lost. I'm perfectly willing to put it behind me and forge friendships with everyone out there, but it appears that my sentiments are not shared.


Enjoy your impending death. May you enter the afterlife comforted by your sense of self-righteousness.
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Terribly sorry, bud. Well... you aren't really my bud. If you were, you'd be a crewleader, no doubt, just like good ol' whatshisname and the other guy.


But you're right. I rank slowly. Obviously I am mentally incapable.


And you're right again. If everyone bought out of their crews and began killing indiscriminately, what a glorious Utopian society it would be. But, until that happens, I guess somebody's got to be in charge.


No need to thank me.
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Does this man know how to do it or does this man know how to do it...


RonMexico everybody!

Holds up a sign saying applause
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Maybe someone would actually take you seriously if your bloodline didn't keep coming back and repeating the same thing over and over again. Try spicing it up every once in a while, like maybe for the inevitable follow up rant in a week or two add a few posters, throw some confetti around, hire dancing monkeys, do something to make this rehashed old crap bearable.
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My thoughts:


If you look beyond the detail offered in this speech you'll be sadly disappointed to note that it basically, once again, boils down to someone expressing their dissatisfaction with leadership in general.

Maybe some finer point is contained deeper within, but I doubt it. The best answer I can give in respect of this discussion on the world is as follows:


It is what it is
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Either way its the most interesting thing ive seen in at least a week.
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You present yourself very well, and though I might not agree with you I just wanted to ask you something. You have the right to say or do what ever you want, but there will always be consequences for your actions.


But don't you think being newer to this business (Civy, thug, gangster and don't already have a family to return to) a new family might be just fine? Of course they all have there ups and downs but you have to work with the hands you are given, and you seem like an intelligent person help the family you join and who knows what could happen you might move up quick, I don't know but what I do know is doing this is not going to get you anywhere quick.


Much respect,

-Dakine
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