Daniella had been standing back, leaning against a wall and listening to the conversation. The young woman who started it wasn't directly familiar to her, but she'd read about her ancestors in her mother's journals. Her mother had made it clear that this young woman and her family's line had issues with Daniella's ancestors. Even though they hadn't interacted in years until her mother had become Naka's RH, the woman had never seemed to be able to just....move on. So Daniella saw no reason why she should stay quiet and not point out how @Dizzy was so completely contradicting herself.

Everyone knows I am a huge fan of the vision RobOakheart and Mr Gato had. Most people by now will know that I feel we have reverted too far back and are doing nothing in the way that is best for the community.

You can see blatant bloodline comments spewing from leaders.

“Do we? How do we know anything about you, considering you’re new to these shores? Unless of course you mean we know the history of your ancestor’s opinions. But wait, I thought we shouldn’t even make assumptions about you based on your ancestors because that would be blood lining? You can’t pick and choose when you want us to assume things about you and your line. You can’t decide that it’s only ok when you say its ok and then call everything else blood lining. Or perhaps you simply don't understand what blood lining actually is?"

We've got a power city, Chicago, that are likely to frighten people. After all when a Godfather takes a shot too soon when things are being sorted it leaves people to wonder if that is going to happen to them. Why do I bring this up? Because its good to recognize we have resorted back to fear.  Leaders will not wish to draw attention to themselves from Chicago.

This particular comment caused Daniella to laugh. 

"Frighten people? Chicago isn’t frightening to people because Chicago has worked with people. Everything I have seen since I came to Chicago has been friendly and open. I have friends across every city and I speak with them regularly. Never once has anyone said they are afraid of Chicago. Chicago is the city that offered peace and accepted it. They aren’t the ones that broke that peace with the intent of “going out with a bang” and then tried to drag others into it with lies, causing every other city to unite against them."

Now the question is, can people truly get involved now with those two dead? No. No they cannot.

"Or do you simply mean that you can’t? Because the approach you take is rude, dramatic and people don’t like it. Your blood line no longer has it’s protector to come out here and stop people from pushing back at you so now you have to deal with it. You say people are scared of Chicago but ignore the fact that they may have also been scared of your two idols. It’s clear when I’m reviewing my mother’s journals that those that spoke out against your blood in the past were promptly shut down by the two godfathers you’re trying to make into martyrs here. You say you want freedom of speech but freedom of speech also entitles me to come out here and tell you shut up if I so choose."

You can pour everything into a family and never reach your own goals. Never be given that chance.

"This is classic from your line. You can go back through generations of your ancestor’s speeches and it’s always the same nonsense. People who work hard aren’t given credit. People only choose their friends. It’s all popularity and no one ever works hard enough in you and your ancestor’s minds. But guess what? People other than you and yours work really hard and are rewarded for it. If you’re working really hard and not being rewarded there’s usually a reason. Maybe you need to look at yourself for once instead of blaming everyone else. Take some accountability."

Locked down with chains is not the way I can see myself carrying out the vision that was started.

Again, another classic – taking the victim mentality. Your ancestor’s complaints, drama, whining, blaming and all the excuses you’re constantly throwing around have never worked. They don’t get you any closer to actually doing anything. Instead of standing out here on a street corner whining about how you’ll be “locked down with chains”, shut up and go do something about it. Get yourself to the top and make the changes you want to see.

You idolize Rob, put him on some sort of pedestal. But at the end of the day he stayed quiet for months and months and built his way up. He didn’t come out here as a thug or wise guy and start bashing what he didn’t like. Instead he held in his dislike of it all, right under the nose of the man in charge at the time, until he could make his move. And once he was in charge, then he acted. If you idolize that so much, then do it. But for God’s sake stop coming out here blaming everyone else for your being at the bottom. And honestly, for someone who claimed to care about his ideals so much, his two month reign was one of the shortest in recent times. If he wanted it to continue longer, he should've made sure the threats to it were removed.

As much as people like to talk about Rob and Gato as though they were heroes, they weren't. I really liked their visions, but they were no real difference from any other regime. Dizzi speaks as though fear didnt exist when they were around, it simply didnt exist for those her bloodline knew. Many others had to still live in fear with the vague nature of the system in place.

Thank you Don Slash. I can only echo your words here, as I have already. Simply because @Dizzy’s ancestors didn’t experience fear, doesn’t mean others didn’t.

Slash, was it fear though? Could it have been guilt? I mean people would know if they were contributing to the community would they not? If you are sat back and doing your own thing, that would be a clear cut sign that you have no care for the community as a whole.

Guilt? Guilt over what? Over not feeling like they should be forced to come speak in the streets just to stay in favor? Godfather Rob claimed he didn’t want to be a tyrant, claimed he wanted to be different than those before him; instead he was exactly the same, simply with different expectations. If you didn’t come speak on the streets then you “weren’t good enough” or were a “poor leader.” It made my mother sick the way people, good people, were so openly shamed.

I could keep going but I doubt you'll see my point. Instead I'll simply say that the community has been pretty clear and unified here in saying that you're wrong. You will make a hundred excuses why people are out here saying what they are saying. You will say they're scared, they're following the crowd, they're weak, etc. But when a majority of people are unified in their view of something and you stand alone, that doesn't automatically make you some sort of hero for fighting against "the powers." That doesn't make you special. Instead it makes you look salty and pathetic. 

*Listening from nearby, tammy decides to throw some observations into the discussion*

"Miss Dizzi, i tink you're wastin' your time. All preachin' in tha streets is doin' is turnin' old fields over, when 'dey need ta be left ta settle."

"If ye need some'ting to take comfort in, consider 'dat  it sounds like 'dose in Chicago attacked 'trough fear against 'dese two men. Which is fine, who doesn't fear death. 'Thou 'dey were only able ta make 'dat move because 'deir victims did'nah fear Chicago, and did nah attack first. 'Dey had better 'tings ta do 'dan fear an destroy, when 'dey were builders wit' believed responsibilities."

"Ye say Rob Oakwood was ta retire anyway and Chicago was told 'dat 'dey were at peace? Ye, Dizzi ye should understand 'day people who are killed 'trou fear 'dat did not feel fear 'demselves died smiling, nah bitter."

Disorder listened to Kerouac and decided some clarification on his last point was required.

"I fully appreciate what you are saying Kerouac. Once you get down to it we all measure each other based on our character, values and actions. That goes without saying. Showing respect isn't about that. 

This thing of ours is one of order and rules. Even if you don't know a person, you show respect for their rank as that shows respect for the order and system you live in. You show respect even if you don't feel it and the person standing before you has done nothing to deserve it. Your personal feelings have nothing to do with it."

True, true, and I suppose that because some of us don't wish to live by rank or rules (I guess the two are interchangeable) a decent chunk of this world is populated by our own brand of Meursaults who don't 'play the game' and get punished for it by society as a result. We show respect because we must, not because it's earned or merited. And it's a fast life if you kick against the rules and the system, but I'm here for the mad ones after all.

Very interesting conversations. Funny shit is none have remarked our nowadays world, no respect for the dead dominates the streets...