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Hands & Auth Started by: I_32_I on Apr 20, '17 18:57

As it currently lies a hand must request auth from the crew leader, a hand can also auth themselves. It feels like a trusted position like a hand should automatically come with BG and wack auth as well as sponsor status

I see no negatives to this being implemented Infact it will help those setting up a family get up and running faster and more efficiently

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Ultimately it should be the leader's decision to give auth. Like you said, a hand can request auth and immediately turn around and authorize that request themselves only assuming that their leader doesn't have a problem with this. In a different situation this may not be the same, where the leader would like to handle all authorizations and hands will (or won't) respect this. Making hands automatically authed takes this level of control (option) away from the leader.

I believe that the way the auth system is set up involving this should stay as is. 

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A hand is. A level of trust issued by the CL, it's the same as not being able to take the gun of a made man, only a stupid CL puts people in a hand position that he doesn't want to have auth...

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You could also argue that anyone above the rank of Made Man should have these abilities. 

The rank of Made Man and higher is meant for people you trust as they represent your crew and through extension, you. I always thought it was funny Made Man and higher needed auth to shoot at Gangsters.

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I am sorry still think should be up too CL and hands. You never know if someone decide go out on there own if they get when your made.  They can kill who they want to.

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If a CL can't take the gun from someone over Made it makes no sense to have to request auth.

If you are trusted you are trusted. If not don't promote.
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Toby is 100% right.

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But then hand positions come with more trust inherently than a made man

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I completely agree with Isla. It does take the power away from the leader to auth a person. Yes, there should be trust there, but ultimately the leader has earned that privilege to auth.

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A hand is. A level of trust issued by the CL, it's the same as not being able to take the gun of a made man, only a stupid CL puts people in a hand position that he doesn't want to have auth...

 I_32_I  is not talking about a Made man here. He said,   "A hand  is. a level of trust issued by a CL....", and in some cases even higher than that.

 

He is not saying all members made or above he is talking about  the Hands, which is truth no one can argue as a Hand you are given a level trust much higher than a made man  or any other title.

If you are a hand of a leader isn't that trust Assumed?

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