One day i was going to meet my father in the land far a way from my home land

After several weeks traveling all i meet was a dead father guned down in his sleep by men that have spooken of honour among men

what is the honour in shooting someone in his sleep.

In my world that is as dishonouroble that it can get and those citys that has helped them do this are not much better and i hop they all meet the maker soon for the sin the have done

Honourable? No.

Hilarious? I'd wager.

Frowns.

thats very special sir lol

Right.. before a debate starts lets put you in this position.

Your standing in front of a Godfather.. Who is protected by a LOT of BG's. His Captains also your standing in front of with your guys. You know should they be awake they will also cause a lot of damage to your friends and family and city and yourself no doubt. Do you..

1 - Silently say 'Fire' and end them in their sleep to prevent major damage to your city/friends and family.

2 - Sound a fog horn, wake them and run the risk of being gunned down and taking lots of damage that will cost a lot of money to repair SHOULD you survive.

I can almost guarantee anyone would take option One. Should they be honourable or not. The Army kills their enemies in their sleep? Do they get classed as dishonourable no... reason being..?

Its called one word. Tactics Use them to your advantage and everything will plan out smoothly or as smooth as its destined to be.

Tucking his pistole away, after a good roaming on the ph streets to make sure they were clean, Dante walks up on a youg steed vocalizing his thoughts.

Young man, it was better they went peacfully in thier sleep.
Didn't you hear the crys of one of the last who awoke as we kicked in his door to his lovly loft. Ranting and raving he grabed for hit glock that lay on his night stand, wildly poping shots off? What would he have done been awake?

if your a man of honour i take nr 3  and the damage you do to your city by doing that its what war costs

mr_earner it's simple really. You take the course of action that is going to cause you the least amount of fatalities. While it's all fancy and stuff to go charging in like the Light brigade, all that does is put valuable people's lives at risk.

The sneaky sneaky option minimises the chance of losing your own people.

<em> Spartan sighs </em>

There is no honour here. Yet still people preach about it. Stupid. All there is, is people strong enough to take action and act like real mobsters even if they preach about honour like it exists (LA) and then there are other people just waiting to be lead around like a dog by those stronger then them (NO and CHI)

Well. Rather than war strategies, I hope there'll be a thread to explain war reasons. The reasons why one of two old friend decides to stab the other in the back.

The reasons why one of two old friend decides to stab the other in the back.

It's the mafia.

Spartan. That hurt. For about 3 seconds then I laughed.

Saul grabs lead.

"Come on Scandia time for your walk."

mr_earner sits down on a bench listning to all the cowardly men that meen that they are honourable and then he see spartan and listen to what he has to say

that is try

Mr_Earner. What is try?

Your views on honour are frankly laughable. I don't actally know what stance you are taking here. What I would offer is that you honour your dead father and his friends and stop making a complete tit of yourself by going against everything that is the 'accepted' way of commencing and winning a take down.

The only thing that anyone has to apologise for here is not doing this sooner. You can think what you like about New Orleans and Chicagos leaders but you'd be mostly wrong. I know that for certain.

" tru "

I apologise for the wrong letter

Scandia what is a complete tit ?

and all you are prowing to me is that you`d be mostly wrong about your own leader

True but I won't get hung up on speaking as mine is going downhill fast.

Care to explain to me why I am wrong about Iota?

Conclusion: what do you define honor as in an illegal mob. hrm? not betraying your brothers? well, there was no brother betrayal only aquaintances. We are not 1 huge family, why should the larger mass when it has decided that the lesser mass is overstepping not knock it back into place? is this not the prupose of a godfather? to keep people in line? and when a godfather does not act, but instigates, who is to enforce his duties? the mass.

Honourable? No.

Hilarious? I'd wager.

Nods