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Downtown goes down Started by: Disorder on May 29, '17 21:44

Disorder sat in the beach house the Las Vegas mobsters had been using for the last few days. A maid brought him a large cocktail in a fancy glass. Bright pink and complete, with camp parasol resting on the sugar crusted rim. Disorder smiled and took a long refreshing drink before speaking to the maid about the bill for all the cleaning. She was pleasantly surprised that he engaged her in Spanish and quoted him a very fair price for the abominable amount of work she and her team had undertaken.

The great bald Godfather climbed out of his chair and sauntered over to the kitchen counter. Taking the lid off a cookie jar he pulled out a breath taking wad of bills from inside. The maid was professional enough to act surprised at the sight even though she would have obviously found it some hours ago. Disorder counted out her pay, then counted out two thousand dollars. One for her and one for her team. She was naturally delighted. As she made her way out the phone rang. Disorder picked it up. 

"Hello."

'Boss, its done.'

"Good work. I'll make the announcement."

'You need us to do anything else?'

"No man. You and the gang get back here. The girls did a wonderful job cleaning the place, just in time for us to wreck it again, and they've taught me how to make this amazing cocktail! Honestly, you guys will have to try these, they're something else."

'Ok then!'

"Thanks again. Make sure our people are well taken care of, then get back for the food and the party."

He hung up the phone and walked back to the sea front deck to sit in the chair and look out over the sea, while he finished the relaxing drink. When he was done he had a quick shower and put on a fine evening suit. The car was brought to the door and he enjoyed the scenery of the city as he was taken downtown to a cafe called The Pantry. A 24hr restaurant opened some years before by a humble hard working man. His goal was simple, to provide food and service around the clock and also, very importantly, to provide jobs for ex cons who struggled to get work while carrying the stigma of jail behind them.

Disorder loved the idea and the humility of the place and it's owner and decided to make his announcement from the corner outside. Sending in a guard to order the beef tenderloin he watched at the crowd gathered around him.

"Hello. Today is a sad day. Its sad because it is pointless. Needless. A waste of life. What started as a beautiful idea has been destroyed by the vanity of one ego. RP Inc was founded by a great woman. Someone who's lineage had been devoted to literature and creativity, for generation after generation. I spent significant time with her making plans for what RP Inc could do in Los Angeles. Shortly after her arrival here though, she was forced to retire and the reigns were handed to Alexander Solonik.

I didn't know Alexander but was willing to take Kathryn's recommendation and so allowed him to take control of her crew when she left. Because I didn't know him, his role was restricted to the district of Downtown LA with the understanding we'd see how things progressed. I encouraged him to develop as he felt the crew should and continue with some of the work Kathryn and I had planned. Things plodded along slowly for a few weeks. Alex made an auth in Ranger and continued to make a lot of business district contributions and some stories in the streets. 

After a month I elected to make use of one of the other districts in LA to move Divina and Hades into Venice and add some more pulse and life to the city. Now I'll grant you, I could have gone about this with much more consideration than I did. I gave Alex almost no warning and just assumed he would be fine with it as he had done very little in terms of expanding in the month he'd been set up. This was inconsiderate of me, I appreciate that. I was however unprepared for the response I got from Alex about it.

I won't get bogged down in a blow by blow account of his mails on the matter. Needless to say he appeared to lose all sight of who put him in his position, protected him and defended him. Instead electing to launch abuse at me and state that his crew were making a far more significant contribution to this thing of ours than anyone else in the entire country. Even after this I replied a couple of times saying I would forgive his brief departure from sanity and chalk it up to shock.

Then later I was handed a transcript of a mail he sent to his family telling them to prepare for war against me and asking for pro shooters to come forward. At this point I had to draw the line. Enough is enough. I can take a joke but I won't see the lives of my family and friends threatened by an man with a profound sense of entitlement having a tantrum. I made the call and the matter was taken care of. RIP RP Inc."

He paused and glanced over at the door of The Pantry. Tobias was standing there signalling that his food was ready. Disorder looked back at the crowd.

"Now, if you'll excuse me. I have a wholesome meal with hard working people to enjoy before I return to the beach to enjoy an entirely unwholesome evening with criminal slackers."

He smiled and nodded and walked across the street into the restaurant.

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Amongst the many sad things about these circumstances, this is probably the worst: "then later I was handed a transcript of a mail he sent to his family telling them to prepare for war against me and asking for pro shooters to come forward."

Desperately sad times when a crew leader can't trust his family with this kind of information and one individual is prepared to watch his leader and the rest of his family die just to get "one up" with another Godfather. 

Rest in peace to the fallen. 

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I'll give Alex his due. I recognize their name before... what was the other ones name?

Rest in peace to the fallen.

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Ok, first and foremost I will say Disorder had every right to wipe out RP, Inc. I have long stood up and said that those in power have the right to do this because they have the power. So I am not going to challenge his right to do that. I will, however, challenge the bullshit that is coming out of his mouth. He is right that one ego did destroy this - but it was his. I will get into the blow by blow because I think it is important.

Below I are all of the mails that went back and forth between Disorder and Alex - I have also included the mail that was sent out to the crew that he is talking about - the mail in which Alex clearly stated that he wanted to avoid war but thought his mail might cause his untimely death and he wanted RP, Inc prepare in case that happened - yes, the horror he actually took steps to protect his family from a man known to lead with his gun when someone dares to question him. At no time was there any indication of any attack against LV - come on, that would have been suicide. He also failed to mention the second mail that was sent out a short time later letting people know that he was speaking with Alex and that the threat was no more - so to go back about the business of doing what RP, Inc did best - having fun and writing.

As you will see Alex also never claimed that RP, Inc. contributed more than anyone else in this thing - what he did say in response to your bullshit question about what RP Inc had done to earn your respect was point out the very large - and yes larger than any other crew - contribution that RP, Inc. made to the content on the streets and in teh business districts. Will anyone honestly deny that RP Inc did that? Alex did not step up because of ego. He stepped up because Disorder came in and chose to insert crews into LA with no word and then when called on it chose to respond by basically saying that RP, Inc was worthless - and given the hard work that I know so many put into it that was not something Alex was going to stand by and allow to be said. 

First, the mail regarding oru supposed threat to LV: 

To: *MASS MAIL*
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 02:46
Subject: Divina_Princeps and Hades

***Mass Mail to crew members of Alexander_Solonik***
For now everything seems to be ok. I am still not happy about this necasarily but we are at a point were it is what it is and there really isn't anything we can do about it. So, let's just keep doing what we do best and move forward. Play nice with our new neighbors and lets just write and have some fun.

To: *MASS MAIL*
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 00:06
Subject: Divina_Princeps and Hades

***Mass Mail to crew members of Alexander_Solonik***
Family,

This is not something I feel I can allow to go without question and so I hvae called Disorder out on it. This could result in my untimely death. It has been a great ride and I appreciate what all of you have done for this family - we have had a great time. 

I am not one to go to war lightly but I find the way Disorder went about this very disrespectful and it is not something I can allow to pass. Please buckle down and prepare for any possible situation that might arise. Proer's report to me, shooters, report to Gracie, I will also be calling on all of you to provide me with intel potentially. Please stay were you are and keep guns and flights available. 

If I can avoid war in this I will, but if it comes I want us to go out with a bang. 

Alex

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Gracie
Sent: May 28, '17 23:55
Subject: Divina_Princeps and Hades

***Mass Mail to crew members of Alexander_Solonik***
Hi family, 

looks like our city is getting a slight expansion. 
Normally I don't mail about these things, but I figured since this pertains to our city, you should know. 

Thanks, 
Gracie

 

 

Next, the full conversation were Alex's ego supposedly got in the way:

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 17:45
Subject:

Disorder,

You are right that in the past all of your communication has been respectful, which is in part why I have been thrown by this entire communication. You have acknowledged that not giving a bit of advance notice was a mistake and apologized and I accept that and move past it. The apparent miscommunication about were RP, Inc. stood I will accept some blame in and again I will move past that. However, even in this last message you continue to seem to belittle what RP, Inc. does and that is what I just don't get - especially when at times (including in your last mail) you have said you understand the vision as well. Just now you asked

So far I can't say I've been especially blown away with anything you guys have done in the community at large. I mean, what have you done? You have mentioned a few times in your last mails that you think I have "0 respect" for you but honestly, what have you done to command my respect? This may seem harsh but given some of the comments you have thrown in my direction, I feel a little harsh light self-assessment isn't too much to ask.

What we have done is consistently have at minimum five to six members ranking in the top 15 posters, often times with more than that (right now we are at 6 and this is in part because we have a couple of people on vacations). We provide more original content - especially if you exclude the random rants - in the streets than any crew by far. We have the most active BD in the country by far and also regularly travel to others as well.  And we run contest and events to try and gin up even more activity on a local level since we know that on a game wide level it won't be happening again. No, we aren't the largest crew but I would damn well say we have the largest impact when it comes to actually keeping content in what is supposed to be a role playing game.

Now, I get it, MR has become a button clicking game for most and most people don't give a damn about the RP aspect. As I said though a lot of people in our crew have put their heart and soul into this crew and the RP we do and given that it is my job to stand up for those people - yes I take offense on their behalf when people seem to indicate that that has no value. So I apologize if I come across as shouting or getting in your face - that is not my intent; I am simply doing my best to stand up for my crew and the work that they do.

- Alex 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 29, '17 09:11
Subject:

Ok, I think the genesis of this problem is clear.

" you are your own city and perfectly entitled to do that in your own district"

That line to me means LA or you as LA has been in practical terms so far, didn't and don't need to ask my permission to auth someone. I wanted you to function independently as your own entity within your district. I have even specified in that line "in your own district". The idea was that Keats would operate that way for the whole city but again, as I stated at the time, the dynamic between you and I was entirely different and so the dynamics of your control over the city would be. If this has lead to you holding this misunderstanding for the month you have been in charge, then we must both take some blame. I was sure I'd made my position very clear. So much so that I didn't feel the need to revisit it for clarification.

Now to the respect thing. I have never lacked respect for you. Indeed if you look at our correspondence up until last night I have shown you a surprising level of respect the whole time. Especially if you consider our relative positions and the fact I didn't know you at all when we started talking. If you start mouthing off at me you have to expect me to change my tone. I do not hold my current position by virtue of being charming in the face of people disrespecting me and telling me where to go. You shout at me, you have to expect to get a bit back. That isn't disrespect, its physics. 

I have no lack of appreciation for RP inc and what you are attempting to do. Keats vision was very clear to me, so much so that I wanted to give him an entire city to develop it in. Your capabilities (no offense here, Keats is a very well known and widely respected player. Has been for years) are not his. Completely ignoring your ability to come up with creative ideas and projects, the player-base of the game will not gravitate to you in the same way they did to him. Thats no disrespect to you, it again is just an empirical fact based on years invested and relative levels of notable success. Again, another reason I restricted you to a district and not the whole city. The whole city was ambitious even for him but I at least set out with that boundary to see how far he got. 

So far I can't say I've been especially blown away with anything you guys have done in the community at large. I mean, what have you done? You have mentioned a few times in your last mails that you think I have "0 respect" for you but honestly, what have you done to command my respect? This may seem harsh but given some of the comments you have thrown in my direction, I feel a little harsh light self-assessment isn't too much to ask. 

Yes, I should have consulted you before hand. That was a mistake and a very inconsiderate act on my part. For that I have apologized. As for the rest of the city being yours, I'm sorry but it never has been and unless you experience a sudden explosion in the current RP community in the game, it never will be. The real-estate will be used if there is demand for it.

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 02:30
Subject:

Disorder,

First, I will say that my issue with all of this is primarily from the fact that I am at a cookout at my brothers and suddenly get a message from my RHM informing me that we have new crews being put into place in LA - which came as quite a shock to me. It also pushes the narrative to the rest of the world that RP, Inc. is a nothing crew that isn't even worth conisidering - a narrative that I have been trying to dissuade and that frankly, doesn't make it easy to pull people in when we are trying to recruit. Granted, part of the reason is also because we are looking for people who enjoy RPing, which is a surprising small number in an RP game. 

My other issue is, however, that I am quite confused as to were the hell we stand. Just a week ago you sent me this mail: 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 20, '17 22:23
Subject: Authing Ranger under me in Downtown

Hello man,

Sure you can set him up if you like. As you say, you are your own city and perfectly entitled to do that in your own district.

Hows everything else?

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 20, '17 22:20
Subject: Authing Ranger under me in Downtown

Godfather, 

I am planning on authorizing Ranger under me in Downtown. As we discussed when I took over RP, Inc. I will be keeping my expansion to two under me in Downtown for now and I would like Ranger to be the first. I would like your blessing in this. I realize we are our own city but as a sister city to LV and as a crew leader with much to learn still, who looks up to your leadership still I am reaching out to you.

I have been working with him to prepare him since taking over and my hope is to get him authed this weekend or early next week. 

- Alex

This mail seems to me to send a clear signal that you consider Los Angeles it's own separate city - not Las Vegas'. Now, look, lets be real. We both know that you could eliminate us at any time - but if you are telling me to run the city as my own I make plans to do just that. When you then make a decision to turn around and say that it is yours again because of your bottom line that throws me for a bit of a loop. The reality is that I cant win a fight against LV and frankly I don't want a fight with LV in the first place. But at the same time if your expectation is that you are running LA and that I am simply one of your sub-crews then why the charade about LA being it's own city? As for having more life in LA - sure, of course I want more people here, but not if it means leaders who have no desire to keep RP going and who have no loyalty or connection to RP, Inc. at all. The reality is the way our relationship is seems to be set up right now is that LA is yours when you want it but RP Inc is on it's own the rest of the time. We don't really have the full protection of being a LV connected crew and we certainly don't see any financial benefit even though we now have a new crew coming in so that DT can continue to bring LV money but we do - it would seem - have the expectation of being fully under your control. Now, my concern with this is that I have to wonder if tomorrow I am going to wake up and you decide you have a crew you want to put in place in Downtown. Now, if LA is yours and I am simply a subcrew well, that is your right. But again, why the charade? 

I know I am rambling a bit; but in large part that is because frankly it seems to me that with this move you decided you had 0 respect for me, RP, Inc, or anything we do - and I find that a bit disappointing. No one is disputing your right to do what you did - even if you had never given Keats the auth the fact is you have the strength within LV to send a crew anywhere you want because no crew has the stength to stand up to you. The reality is though that what you did is announce to the world that I have absolutely no power and no control and that RP, Inc. is a joke not to be taken seriously. I really don't understand what LA did to deserve that. 

-Alex

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 29, '17 00:30
Subject:

Ok look, just wind your fucking neck in for a minute.

You have been in charge a month now, your crew has expanded into two and still has barely enough members to fill your HQ let alone both. While I appreciate what you are trying to do is more specialized than other outfits, the fact remains that other cities have started much later than you and already overtaken you in terms of population. Now, that isn't to say what you are doing is any less valuable, I'm just saying you don't exactly need the space. I must have been wrong to assume the extra life in the city would be welcome. However this is now the situation and I would hope you attempt to adapt.  

On a side note, we should also make a couple of things quite clear at this stage, less we have any further misunderstandings that cause you to make similarly suicidal outbursts. Firstly and most importantly of all, you do not own the city. I do. You only have your crew because I gave it to you. I was perfectly within my rights to wipe you out when Keats decided to abandon what we started together but I didn't, I gave you a chance. I would have expected you not to lose sight of that and come back barking at me but here we are. 

I can appreciate you being upset and this coming as a surprise. I'll grant you some more warning would have been considerate. In that respect I apologize. I also apologize for you laboring under the misunderstanding that you owned the city. That has never been the case. Hell, even Keats didn't own the city, I just wanted to see what he did when given free reign to develop it as he wished. So, for those misunderstandings I apologize to you. I will also overlook your outburst as you have clearly lost sight of who has allowed you to live and protected you from all the other cities while you swanned around with this profound sense of entitlement.  

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 00:11
Subject:

What you did was ask me to hold to one district for the time until I showed what I ccould do and then WE would be allowed to expand - not you bringing in crews that I know nothing about. I have always tried to be respectful and open with you and I value our relationship with LV, but this feels like a direct slap in the face to myself and my crew. If you have people that you feel would be strong in Los Angeles I am open to discussing it and seeing if they would be a good fit in our city under me - I cannot however, abide you simply choosing to act as if RP Inc isnt here and giving away parts of our city - it is disrepsectful as I am sure you full well know. 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 29, '17 00:06
Subject:

The city belonged to Keats. He retired. I stated at the time I didn't have the same relationship with you as him and at that time imposed the restrictions on you to one district. That was made very clear.

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 29, '17 00:03
Subject:

Disorder,

No, it wasn't. You asked me to hold off past that and out of respect I agreed. At no point was the idea of you deciding unilaterally that you are going to put other people in my city. 

As to the growth I have been in power for 3 weeks, not two months. In that time I have grown this crew and authed a new one and have plans to grow further. When I started I asked if LA was staying our own city or if LV wanted more control - you said we were our own city. And now you are doing this without so much as a word before hand, I find that very disrespectful frankly. 

This is not ok with me and, while this may be a death sentence it is not something I can accept and still look my crew in the eye. LA is our city and I don't appreciate you just taking bits of it for your own.

Alex

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 28, '17 23:51
Subject:

Its been made abundantly clear from the very beginning with Alex that this was on the cards. Like really, massively, unavoidably clear. Thats why he was limited to one district and since then, as you agree, you haven't had need of the other districts.

Anyway, this is a thing now. Its happening. It should be fine. If its not let me know.

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 28, '17 23:46
Subject:

Sent as Alexander_Solonik by Gracie. 
Well, given the fact that we could only have 2 underbosses and that getting even a full HQ with one crew was slow there wasn't really a need? LIke why throw up some HQs just so we look bigger if we're gonna be the same size? 

I mean we could have auth'd another person, but whats the rush? 

I get your logic, Im just a bit startled is all as I thought once Alex proved himself the city was his. 

(PERSONALLY I DONT REALLY CARE, I WANT LA TO DIE SO I CAN TAKE A BREAK. SO YAH) 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 28, '17 23:44
Subject:

You are a separate thing because of that but you are almost at capacity for the format you have. Your expansion has been almost non-existent over the last two months. I don't envision taking one of the two empty districts as encroaching on you guys too much?

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 28, '17 23:40
Subject:

Sent as Alexander_Solonik by Gracie. 
I dunno, I just always considered us kinda separate since literally all we do is write. But I knew eventually this was going to happen on some level. Sorry if I sound like a bitch, it has been a long stressful day of dealing with my visa application to stay in the UK so Im tired and words are not my strong point. 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 28, '17 23:39
Subject:

Why is it strange? You have the lowest population of any city. PH belongs to CH and NY has two districts occupied. 

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 28, '17 23:38
Subject:

Sent as Alexander_Solonik by Gracie. 
Not really a problem. I mean I know the city was Kathryns and Alex only really gets the district to start with. Just strange with all the other cities you're chucking them here.  

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 28, '17 23:36
Subject:

Because DT makes a lot of money for my group. 

You got a problem?

To: Disorder
From: Alexander_Solonik
Sent: May 28, '17 23:35
Subject:

Sent as Alexander_Solonik by Gracie. 
Why not just close DT and let them have that? 

To: Alexander_Solonik
From: Disorder
Sent: May 28, '17 23:32
Subject:

Hey,

I'm going to put two crews in Venice. Divina and Hades are going to move there from DT. They have fought their way through DT and pretty much killed the town so they will be removed and given the challenge of peace time leadership. Please feel free to keep an eye on them and let me know if you have any issues. I would hope you should find them both helpful and constructive people to have around though.

 As I said at the beginning, Disorder had every right to wipe our RP, Inc at any time he liked. But dont come out here and feed some bullshit narrative. You wanted to move crews from DT so you could keep padding your bank account and when we called bullshit and then called you out on how dismissive of RP, Inc and the people in it you were you threw a hissy fit. At least have the balls to come out and say it. 

On a final note, I would like to say thank you to all of the great people of RP, Inc. It was an amazing ride and one I am proud to have been on. Thank you for all of the wonderful times. 

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I have to say, with all and absolute respect to Disorder and his decision, I have a degree of respect for Alex - he made a ballsy, if totally foolhardy decision.

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Jennie stood there staring at the nearly mile long scroll of paper that Alex had rolled out. She had heard of holding a grudge, and salt but this was something else entirely. She moved quickly, looping an arm through his and tugged a bit to get him off the streets. "Clearly, acting without thinking or speaking to the wiser people around you is something that runs in your blood." she muttered, "Come now, lets not prove Disorder 's point for him, alright?" she said. 

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Alex my father having spent much time in Detroit I would have to disagree. If he wanted to pad his pocket he would have left them in Detroit until it started to refill. By taking them out of Detroit and essentially breaking the rules of not interfering and that those who choose to be in Detroit as leaders stay in Detroit. Disorder allowed money to leave his pocket as he lost the rent for the two familys each week.
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Romance stands on the beach listening to the waves crash along the shoreline.... the sound reminding him of the time spent making love on the sands.  How many women had Romance made love to here on this beach over the years?  Too many to count..... so many in fact that the beach appeared to be covered in dried seagull crap....... but it was not.  Romance's memories are interrupted  by AlexS who had just finished reading the mailed between his father and Godfather Disorder....

Contrarily, it would seem to me that my Godfather showed your father a great deal of respect.  By your own account, Disorder apologized several times in the correspondence for what he admitted could have been a better line of communication regarding the decision.  That alone is a sign of respect.  Disorder is not a man known for handing out apologies, so if your father received one from him, I can assure you it was sincere.  I can say this confidently for several reasons, partially based on knowing the man for as long as I have, and for the obvious reason that he doesn't need to apologize to anybody if he doesn't feel like it.  Not recognizing this contributed to Alexander_Solonik's downfall.  A decision had been made, albeit without him, by an authority higher than his.  Accepting that probably stings a little, but it would have been a better alternative than seeing the swift end to what appeared to be a unique project that a portion of the crime community enjoyed

Alexander_Solonik had a great supporter in Godfather Disorder for what he was trying to accomplish in LA, and Disorder has always emphasized the importance and value in the type of activity RP Inc. was known for.  But business is business and a decision had been made.  In the end, what Alexander_Solonik took issue with was hardly worth dying for, and even moreso not worth taking the rest of his district down with him over.

I for one am glad you decided to bring these mails to the streets AlexS.  Perhaps others will learn from them.  Maybe you will tool.  Good luck and RIP to those that died today.

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Perhaps others will learn from them.  Maybe you will tool

Ahem...... I had meant to say maybe you will too...... apologies... I had a hair stuck in my throat.....

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