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| Bronx Unlucky | Started by: RemusLupin on Jul 02, '15 04:30 |
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Seeing the discussion in the streets... Valium was just sad with what happened. After the great war, then this...
"Rest in peace to all that fell." |
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| Reply by: Valium at Jul 02, '15 10:50 | |
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Annie looked around at all the sad people and said, "I hope the fallen rests in peace and the survivors live long after this ridiculous take down." |
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| Reply by: -AnnieO- at Jul 02, '15 13:09 | |
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This has been a complete sham and I couldn't be more disappointed. "He hurt my feelings so I'll kill them all.... Oh except the person I like...." People are seriously trying to rebuild this world and Detroit just wanted to pop a few rounds off. Rest in peace to the fallen. I hope the next takedown is actually justified. |
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| Reply by: Shagtastic at Jul 02, '15 13:12 | |
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Applauds Sweetdevil for her loyalty......to a family other than her own. Way to go! Definitely an outstanding citizen, show them how a hand should act. So happy for you that you got your way. Ah, so Sweetdevil came crying to you, because she was removed from RHM due to complete incompetence. Or there was whining going on about something anyways. Do you really expect that any leader would let a consigliere, let alone a hand transfer families? If she truly did not want to be with Lucky, why would she accept such a position? And you decide to wipe out an entire district only because the two of you didn't get your way? Damn, maybe I should start crying and complaining, maybe I can get whatever I want. Excellent way to start the rebuilding process. You could have at least came up with a better excuse other than someone was crying because they couldn't join your family. As someone said, you should have just came out here and stated that you did it because you felt like it. Would have at least been a plausible excuse. Eh, but what do I know. I'm just a lowly thug, running her mouth in the streets. So go on, commence the rude comments that are sure to come my way, something like I'm just crying along with them, right? I would never actually be making a point, that is unheard of. At least I know something about loyalty to a family. |
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| Reply by: Hayley at Jul 02, '15 14:11 | |
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She must have an amazing Everyone seems to be getting hung up on this girl leaving the family, while often frowned upon (although part of me wonders why since many of you don't really respect the rank of Made), it seems to be more regular occurrence in this day and age, especially given the previous statements from Don Obstacle around transferring of members. The real reason for the trigger being pulled on this occasion was down to the disrespect that came from Lucky. Now, Lucky could have called Remus' pet dog a cat, if he found it disrespectful then that's his prerogative. Rebuilding or not, if a man's disrespected then it's down to him to make a call on whether or not that guy goes down. There was no point in shooting Lucky and then hoping for the best, if one went the rest had to follow, except Sweetdevil apparently. The only thing I am quite irked about out of this whole situation is the lack of protection order witness statements being sought. |
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| Reply by: DocHoliday at Jul 02, '15 15:55 | |
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Everyone is getting hung up on this girl, because she got an entire district killed for her own selfish needs. And feels that her actions were acceptable, because she was "unhappy". She is setting a new trend, that we can do whatever the hell we please if its to our benefit. And its usually the ones that publicly make stupid mistakes that people focus on. So she is the entertainment of choice for a while, until something else happens. How was Lucky disrespectful? Because he refused to send a high ranked member, who happened to be a hand? As there is absolutely no proof or even a bit of explanation of what exactly this disrespect was, its a poor excuse. I'm sure there is more to it, as there always is. And if the excuse of "I felt disrespected and they made me sad" is acceptable, I will have to start using it in the future. Think it will work if I shoot someone who makes me unhappy? And rarely does anyone actually follow protection orders. There is almost no point to putting them in place. |
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| Reply by: Hayley at Jul 02, '15 16:13 | |
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I am somewhat upset that pride came before the lives of dozens. An underboss disrespected you, so you kill his godfather and everyone else in the district? You don't try to handle this in a diplomatic way? It should go without saying that, order from the gods or not, a Made Man+ does not leave for another family outside of the district, let alone city. |
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| Reply by: Jakeysnakey at Jul 02, '15 16:20 | |
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Being a thug, I wouldn't expect you to be privvy to what was said between Lucky and Remus and even if somehow you are, Remus felt it warranted death so death is what came about. Sure feel free to use it all you like, it's not a bad reason if I'm honest and at least it's a representation of someone standing up for principles, which these days isn't as common as I'd like to see. |
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| Reply by: DocHoliday at Jul 02, '15 16:20 | |
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Is it really principles they stood up for Doc? Or just their own selfish wants. We are in a rebuilding period. And this just reeks of a city being more detrimental to the rebuilding process than it ought to be. I'd certainly like to see the so called disrespect (and yes I am aware I am not owed this). That would settle some of the debate. It won't touch the fact that a RH and high rank shouldn't have even requested to leave their family. That was silly regardless of how you paint it up. |
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| Reply by: JadedButterfly at Jul 02, '15 16:22 | |
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No, it was principles, Remus seemed certain enough it was over disrespect that he shot them, not for his own selfish wants. |
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| Reply by: DocHoliday at Jul 02, '15 16:25 | |
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Yes, because the reasons given for a takedown/war in the streets are always a hundred percent honest. |
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| Reply by: Aleksandr at Jul 02, '15 16:29 | |
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Remus can be certain. However, he opened the door way when he spoke of the member that wanted to leave, who still has her rank that she had with Lucky now with Remus. He opened the door to be questioned about his motives when he stresses more on the member wanting to leave then the claims of disrespect. He opened himself up to everything that has transpired in this speech and everyone else's replies by clearing out a district during a rebuilding process based on what appears to be something that isn't proven as of yet. I really hope it's proven to the other leaders though. I still think this act was extremely detrimental. They don't have the people to fill their city but they are opening up other districts? Seems a little backwards to a rebuilding period. |
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| Reply by: JadedButterfly at Jul 02, '15 16:29 | |
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Doc you still belive that Bronx is shoot for disrespect? cmon man,only one person that was above made is survived,she is the reason,not some disrespect if you ever worked or talked with Lucky you would know that he will never disrespect anyone who dont deserve that |
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| Reply by: _Sheldon at Jul 02, '15 16:30 | |
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I know, because being a thug, I'm not entitled to any sort of opinion, right? I don't deserve to have a say, unless I have that prestigious rank of Made +. Because there is so much honor in that rank, or at least there used to be. Leave it to a few people to prove that the rank means nothing. As in this case, its acceptable for a high rank to do stupid things, and people don't even care. Can't wait to be Made. For being an idiot thug, I guarantee I know a lot more of what went on. And as a thug, since my opinions apparently don't count, then I can come out here and speak to my hearts content. Since I am just a thug and no one cares. I get it. If someone feels that another leader must die, they shoot them. It doesn't matter what the reason, any excuse can be put in the streets. As long as something is put in the streets, true or not, its considered a warranted death. You speak of standing up for principles. So a high ranked hand is okay to be disloyal, and its acceptable? Its okay for a Consigliere to jump crews because they don't like their current family? Man, the standards really are going downhill. |
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| Reply by: Hayley at Jul 02, '15 16:34 | |
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Hey Sweetdevil and Remus, I CALL Bullshit, this was on 6/19/15 = tell them the damn truth, You are telling me all this from a conversation you seemed okay with. hmmm Still calling bullshit, Why didn't she just suicide instead of taking an entire district out, internal maters are internal matters. Cry me a river Sweetdevil, [6/19/15, 10:55:52 PM] Andrew Louis-Man/RemusLupin: Hey |
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| Reply by: t-boy at Jul 02, '15 16:34 | |
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To: Lucky fair enough bro, if you were in contact with dollface you'd know we already talked about this. To: RemusLupin I will say this once more, I prefer her not to leave, she knows things about Dollface's crew and everything about my crew. Including my crews SR's To: Lucky I'm just doing my part to help a friend, wouldn't you? To: RemusLupin I prefer her not to leave, she knows things about Dollface's crew and everything about my crew. Including my crews SR's. Do you think thats fair to me? To: Lucky Hey Lucky,
SweetDevil just approached me and wants to come join me in the help to rebuild Detroit. It appears she's unhappy from losing her hand position within your family. Originally she wanted to join me in Detroit when she heard about the releasing of people from families for rebuilding purposes after the war. She tells me she decided not to ask me at that point to stick around to help you rebuild your family and district and learn to be a hand. I guess she was super excited to be given the opportunity and is now a bit down about it and wants to come over to Detroit now.
She was a first time player under me and my RHM last time we were in Detroit and we taught her the game, so she's eager to come back to Detroit. |
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| Reply by: Roxy at Jul 02, '15 16:38 | |
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| Looks like the disrespect was the other way around eh? | |
| Reply by: Aleksandr at Jul 02, '15 16:41 | |
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I think this say all,ty t-boy,and shame on you sweetdevil and MR.Reamus We never killed whole district for anyone,especialy not for some noob that dont know what she want |
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| Reply by: _Sheldon at Jul 02, '15 16:42 | |
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and what now two of you Sweetdevil and Reamus? he need to give her to you,even if she know valuable infos |
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| Reply by: _Sheldon at Jul 02, '15 16:46 | |
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It really does look like the disrespect came from Detroit. Both Dollface and Lucky said no. |
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| Reply by: JadedButterfly at Jul 02, '15 16:46 | |
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