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Is MafiaReturns.com Dead? Started by: Spawn on Aug 15, '17 18:34

Made this outside, because I have no desire to go into character and make a newspaper, when most of the people will go OOC anyway.

 

But I really ask the question.... is mafiareturns.com dead? 

 

It's a legit question.

 

I remember finding this game YEARS back. I remember my friends picked up in las vegas by a guy named Dick_Gozinya (funny I know lol) and I was picked up by a fabulous leader in New York named Chris_Moyles (RIP). I was still a naive punk and died quickly, but my leader brought me back and explained how things work here.

For several years I played this game, taking breaks occasionally as any sane person should. But as of lately, I see the game has changed for the WORST and is dying if not dead already. The way things are ran currently is a fucking JOKE.

 

Now before anyone gets "gangster" and wants to act tough with their keyboards and mouses, know that it doesn't hurt my feelings. Most of you punks can play like your tough while telling your mom to bring you snacks to the basement, but I know just who you all are. I'm not here to pretend to be tough, and act "hard". But I GUARANTEE you mafiosos have never shot anyone in real life much rather even picked up a real gun. I can GUARANTEE you have never really sold large amounts of drugs and had to actually bring weapons with you to ensure your protection. I can also GUARANTEE that NONE of you (or at least the ones acting like their tough) have had a gun pointed to your fucking temple and having someone tell you to hand over all your shit either.


I know this is a game. And it should be fun. But I can't stand internet nerds who think their gangsters but probably shit themselves watching Scared Straight.

 

Again, I know this is a game, and shouldn't be taken seriously. But what are those in power doing? TAKING THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY. Why else would they try to hard to keep people from killing them. if it wasn't serious and just a game? But when people complaint about dying for no reason, they get the "its just a a game. stop being a pussy" response. But in reality it's the regime and those who gargle their nuts who take the game too seriously. And yeah I'll be pissed, if I put some of my wack ass paycheck into a game just to die by some paranoid nerds who are scared that their only sense of authority will be crushed.


Then what's even funnier, is the lames switch it from being just a game to it being the "mafia". I hear quotes about how the mafia is cruel and that we're all gangsters etc. LOL.

1) The mafia was about family, loyalty, and Omerta. If traitors were found, they were dealt with. But mafia dons never just slain their own men without valid proof, just because they thought.

2) The mafia would NEVER let someone lead who sexually harassed one of their own. Some random whore on the street? Maybe. But a mafioso lady? Someone in this thing of ours who should be treated with respect? NEVER. That person would be strapped to cement and dumped somewhere.

3) My earlier point. NONE OF YOU ARE FUCKING GANGSTERS. Shut up.

 

I'm starting to see shit that makes me reconsider the life of this game. And also makes me question the gods and what their doing. Because, honestly, had it been someone like me, just a normal player who was found to be sexually assaulting a member of community, I would not only be dead, but probably BANNED. But DanWhoHasAPussyAndNoBalls not only was in protective custody by the gods with amenities, but upon release was GLORIFIED and given a spot to lead. What the fuck? Do you realize if this was the mafia or any other real life gang, that dude would be fuckin dead? Do your realize that those who praised him and allowed him to lead would be killed off by real mafiosos and gangsters? Like do y'all think that shit would be allowed for real? Lol, honestly.

This is an excerpt to show how serious of a crime that shit is: John Gotti PERSONALLY executed the real-life Joe Pesci 'Goodfella' on the night he was due to be 'made' - after the victim tried to rape a fellow gangster's wife. (read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3158196/Crime-boss-John-Gotti-personally-killed-real-life-Joe-Pesci-Goodfella-tried-rape-fellow-gangster-s-wife-new-book-reveals.html)

That's an example of how REAL LIFE mobsters handled that sort of shit.


Now on to some other shit...

The GODS.

 

I had a lot of respect for this game and the gods. Especially the coders. I always felt that this game was designed perfectly. But as of lately, I see the design flaws and I'm beginning to question the gods and their activity in all of this. Because lately, people have been spitting in the gods face and laughing as nothing is done.

 

Bloodlining is against the rules. Yet it is being done under loopholes so it is 'allowed'. But people who are known to build guns, people who have spoken against the regime before, etc. they are basically not allowed to play this game. Yeah we can play, somewhat build, but we cannot get the rank of Made because no one will vouch OR we will be killed.

JoeKing is BLATANTLY spitting in the gods face by selling in game currency at a way lower price than what the game is selling it for. Other games would have this guy banned. I mean doing it under the radar is one thing, but a thread and profile description with that shit advertised? What's even funnier is, back in the day, I had a few friends who did the same thing but was admin killed for it. but now it's allowed I guess?

 

Or is it that these people breaking rules are in with the Gods? I mean some of the leaders today are also on HelpDesk or some sort of administration.

Also, seeing as Text Based mafia games are a dying niche itself, maybe the gods need the money these people are contributing to keep this game alive? It makes sense. No need to please the majority if the 1% is keeping your bills paid. Plus, having owned sites of my own, I know how EASY it would be to assist in the shadows without showing any sense of evidence. Why else allow someone to low ball you on sales? Oh because that same person is going to invest the money made into this game anyway, so fuck it!

 

I highly doubt anything will change soon. The regime will continue to be old fucks who tell us to get a life, but can't seem to get one of their own seeing as their 42 yrs old and still worried about being Godfather in a fucking text based game. And there will still continue to be internet thugs like FearlessJ who claims he can win any fist fight. And there will still be punk ass bitches like DanNeedsToGrowBalls who prey on women and then react when someone reports him. Typical pussy. 


I'm definitely not trying to act tough, nor will I argue with any of you. But you can fact check me if you want. I know real gangs. Have real guns. Actually been to jail. Shit isn't cool. So all you players taking this like it's the real mafia... hang out with real gangsters, watch people actually get killed, be in a spot where you actually are afraid that you may get shot in your sleep.

 

Just wanted to expose this game for what it really is. RIP mafiareturns.com

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Bloodlining is not against the rules. Get your facts straight.

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Harassment is against the rules. Both sexually and not. And we see how that was handled. So is it not harassment to constantly be killed for your previous chars? Oh and I thought we weren't supposed to even be asking who players previous accounts were? But if we don't it prevents us from progress.... so like I said rules are broken through loopholes.......bleep bloop

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Okay you are alright in my books now, bleep bloop.

(Loopholes have been exploited and will be exploited in every aspect of life since forever though, including online games.)

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Now before anyone gets "gangster" and wants to act tough with their keyboards and mouses, know that it doesn't hurt my feelings. Most of you punks can play like your tough while telling your mom to bring you snacks to the basement, but I know just who you all are. I'm not here to pretend to be tough, and act "hard". But I GUARANTEE you mafiosos have never shot anyone in real life much rather even picked up a real gun. I can GUARANTEE you have never really sold large amounts of drugs and had to actually bring weapons with you to ensure your protection. I can also GUARANTEE that NONE of you (or at least the ones acting like their tough) have had a gun pointed to your fucking temple and having someone tell you to hand over all your shit either.

 I can guarantee you're wrong in your assumption. But, then again, I don't act like I'm tough.

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For someone so gangster such as yourself. You seem to be pretty butt-hurt over a online text based game.

Why do you allow yourself to be so triggered about the '42 year old nerd' who's playing the game how he see fit?

If you crave that 'real mobster' life, why you on here and not running your own real life cartel?

just to reiterate, why so serious? 

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That. Was. Beautiful.

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Evening my friend.

The people who play this game are here for many different reasons. Personally, I enjoy mafia films and the culture and morals that the mob used to/do follow. Now I have a very restless and (hopefully) creative mind, I enjoy writing like the many authors and TV/film writers do in our real world. Creating something for someone else or just to "give life" to these ideas or characters to quite fulfilling for me. Though since I'm never going to release any bestselling books or direct a mob film, I've gotta find another medium. Mafia Returns is great for that, since I can not only write characters, give them stories and life, but have n interactive experience, too. 

From the functionality that the admins offer, I can then try and create experiences for others, too.

This is just my motivations, however I know a ton of great writers on here who enjoy the same sort of thing. There are also those who enjoy the interactive side more, the competitive side more or just to be social with people or just troll. Everyone is different, and there will always be difficulties (damn near impossibilities) in finding a dynamic structure which accommodates all. And so we fight and bicker about it. Naturally.

So anyway, when you say "You're not gangsters" we, at least I, know. Just like J.K Rowling isn't a witch or G.R.R.M isn't a sexy dragon queen.

Concerning the job that the admins are doing, it's exactly that, a job. Luckily for me, my job doesn't involve several hundred CONSTANT voices criticizing my every move. Only one, actually. What goes on behind the scenes and the decisions which are made are nobodies desire to have to be party to. If you're coming to us with 100% the entire and undisputed truth of the situation with DanGleeballs, then you have every right to preach about it in the public domain. Fact is, I doubt very much you do. It's the first time I've heard the incident referred to as 'sexual' harassment, as an example. Second hand accounts or rumours scraped together are of no interest to me.

Bottom line is, you can't please all the people all of the time. If there was some serious, obvious and blatant biased being committed against the many, then they wouldn't be here, and the site really would die. 

So for those reasons, I like to take appreciation in the job the admins do just so I've got a place to spam my easily distracted brain.    

The regime will one day collapse, as it always does. If it didn't, you'd have a ten year + character account still running the show. It's the way things go, patience is key and there are always other things to do around here than be stuck at the top.

As for your own personal circumstances... well I can't comment. You have your choices and I have mine. All I know is that in a world where I hate my job, have to balance the commute, children, wife, rabbits and housework, that I have a place to still explore that potential creative writer I always wish I had been. 

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JK Rowling isn't a witch?! What the fuck kind of world do we live in...

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Now before anyone gets "gangster" and wants to act tough with their keyboards and mouses, know that it doesn't hurt my feelings. Most of you punks can play like your tough while telling your mom to bring you snacks to the basement, but I know just who you all are. I'm not here to pretend to be tough, and act "hard". But I GUARANTEE you mafiosos have never shot anyone in real life much rather even picked up a real gun. I can GUARANTEE you have never really sold large amounts of drugs and had to actually bring weapons with you to ensure your protection. I can also GUARANTEE that NONE of you (or at least the ones acting like their tough) have had a gun pointed to your fucking temple and having someone tell you to hand over

This broad stroke statement isn't anywhere near true. Active duty service members play or have played the game before. Hell we lost one of our own, a lad named Cruel. Point of my response, don't spout off things that just arnt true

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JoeKing is BLATANTLY spitting in the gods face by selling in game currency at a way lower price than what the game is selling it for. Other games would have this guy banned. I mean doing it under the radar is one thing, but a thread and profile description with that shit advertised? What's even funnier is, back in the day, I had a few friends who did the same thing but was admin killed for it. but now it's allowed I guess?

Not a single person has ever been killed or banned for selling credits outside of the game.  Ever.

JoeKing, as well as every other user has the ability to use the invest feature, where your interest is paid back in credits.  Some users take advantage of this to gain credits for free.  What they do with them is their prerogative, including selling them in real life so that they can profit from their venture.

had it been someone like me, just a normal player who was found to be sexually assaulting a member of community, I would not only be dead, but probably BANNED. But DanWhoHasAPussyAndNoBalls not only was in protective custody by the gods with amenities, but upon release was GLORIFIED and given a spot to lead. What the fuck?

Nothing related to sexual harassment or sexual assault was ever brought forth to me.  The complaint was that he used her anon code in his profile, passing it off as his, and asked people to send their best insults to him.  Those that sent the insults were not punished because they were under the assumption the message went to him.  He states, even up until now, that he copied her profile and then did not change the code out of carelessness.  I did not buy this story, and thus jailed him.  To those on the receiving ends of any time someone brings forth sexual harassment, they can all attest I do not stand for this. Had this been sexual harassment by Dan, he would be long gone.  As to why he was glorified after he served his time, you need to simply look at every member that allows it.  Inaction is the same as permission.  Permission is the same as encouragement.  Encouragement means support via indifference.  If you want him dead, shoot him.  Put him on the hitlist. Shoot his members.  Hitlist his members.  Shoot his CA.  Shoot his BGs.  Shoot his members BGs.

Bloodlining is against the rules. Yet it is being done under loopholes so it is 'allowed'.

Bloodlining is allowed, to a point.  When you kill someone 27 times in a row, thats just plain denial of play/harassment and will be taken care of.  But you *are* allowed to kill someone who pissed you off.  You all have guns for a reason.

Or is it that these people breaking rules are in with the Gods? I mean some of the leaders today are also on HelpDesk or some sort of administration.

Its a catch 22.  Social butterflies talk a lot.  People who talk a lot generally make a lot of friends.  I talk to a lot of people, therefor I make friends with others who talk a lot.  People who are social normally make it further in the game than people who don't.  People who are really into the game and really enjoy it, strive to be more engaged. So, lets put 2 and 2 together.  Social people earn my trust, become engaged in the game, and become HD so they can help other players.  Social people people who are engaged in the game make it far in the game, often to CL.  So doesn't it make sense that people who can make it to CL, are generally the same qualifications found to be HD?

Also, seeing as Text Based mafia games are a dying niche itself, maybe the gods need the money these people are contributing to keep this game alive? It makes sense. No need to please the majority if the 1% is keeping your bills paid. Plus, having owned sites of my own, I know how EASY it would be to assist in the shadows without showing any sense of evidence. Why else allow someone to low ball you on sales? Oh because that same person is going to invest the money made into this game anyway, so fuck it!

I allow people to low ball me on sales so that I can secure the short term operating expenses for running the site.  My income outside of the site fluctuates greatly, some months I can't put any money in the game, so this operating expense account allows the site to keep running when I can not afford to.  Its the reason why its 2017 and its still here, chugging along.

No need to please the majority if the 1% is keeping your bills paid.

You would be suprised how many of the Name Brand players here havn't spent a dime.  I strive to keep the game as NOT pay per play as possible.  A 18 year old college kid who spends nothing can be just as competitive as a 50 year old with a fat wallet.  There are so many restraints we put on things so that we are revenue neutral so that the community can be enjoyed by all people, regardless of their station in life.  This community will always be my baby, which is why when it comes to profit, I use my other ventures to help fund this, not the other way around.

There is a lot of truth to the rest of your post, but the above points I think you got completely wrong.

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The lot of you can get to fuck.

It is just a game.

If you don't like DanGleeballs, kill him.

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you dont have to capslock that guarantee,
nobody will expose if they are selling drugs or have already shot person
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@Henri - Loopholes will be exploited. Will always be exploited, yes. But when it's spat in your face, what do you do? Wipe it off, smile and thank the person for low balling you in front of your players?  Or OWN UP TO YOUR GAME and stop letting people punk the system? (bleep bloop)

Indubitably - I HIGHLY doubt I'm wrong. But like you said, you don't act tough. And this is the first time I've posted ANYTHING IN YEARS. So believe that I'm not a big talker either. All about action.

@Luca I undestand. I'm speaking to mainly those who just run their mouths talking like their tough when they're really not. I noticed that a lot of people in this game with either the power or connection to power in this game use it as if it's real life. And they they're suddenly bad ass because they are so popular in an online game that's text based....

Ragnarok - I see your point, you took it further than what I was saying. In the context, I was referring to people as acting like they are real GANGSTERS. Active duty is different. You're not just trolling to act tough. And if you are... then think of service and a badge, not trying to be tough on a online game.

 

And I saved the most irrelevant response for last:

For someone so gangster such as yourself. You seem to be pretty butt-hurt over a online text based game.

Why do you allow yourself to be so triggered about the '42 year old nerd' who's playing the game how he see fit?

If you crave that 'real mobster' life, why you on here and not running your own real life cartel?

just to reiterate, why so serious? 

 

VM_Varga.... little do you know. I'm not butt hurt at all. As I said none of your bullshit remarks, threats, jokes, or anything will offend me. Why am I so irritated and decided to say something? (because triggered is lame as fuck, my lil siblings use that shit) Well simply because no one else will. People are too afraid to say something either because they will die or get banned from this world.

Me personally? I don't give a fuck. I don't crave the real mobster life. If you read above, I stated that the gang life shit IS NOT FUCKING COOL. It's not cool to worry about what streets to go down. It's not cool to be shot at over a color, over some drugs, or whatever other dumb shit. 

Why so serious? I'm not! I stated that the game as a whole is a joke. Lead by people who take the game too serious. And if the same people are rising to the top, then obvious they are serious about it. If they continue to do actions that show they are scared to die, then obviously they take the game to serious. Because if it wasn't serious (even a little bit) then why not just die and start over like the rest of have to do? lol

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Spawn,

Please address this: "I had a few friends who did the same thing but was admin killed for it. "

Either you are misrepresenting, or your friends are lying to you.  Nothing is worse than unchecked rumors.  Lets get this aired out immediately.

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Oh, Spawn, what an embarrassment of riches.

Let's clear one thing up, though.

"1) The mafia was about family, loyalty, and Omerta."

This is total bullshit.  The mafia was about making money and power.  Simple, what you're talking about is a movie, The Godfather, than made life imitate art - mafia dudes starting believing their own hype.  

So, you're not acting tough, you're just pointing out that you (allegedly) are something of a gangster?

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"You would be suprised how many of the Name Brand players here havn't spent a dime."

Squishy is damn right, a lengthy stay at the top is highly, highly lucrative.  One dude (I've no idea if he bought credits or not) once owned a double digit percentage of the entire site's money.

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Tobias lol you'd be surprised. shit with pictures as proof. 

LarryLongNeck - It is a game. But is a Mafia game too. And as much as people claim to hold the mafia side up, there are never mafia actions. Except when it comes to killing people LV is scared of. That's about as "mafia" as you get. And that's not even mafia really. But if we were in character then Dan should have died. Instead everyone thinks he's cool.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That is my real life, nerdy laugh, transmitted to text via my automated voice keyboard that I bought with my science fair winnings.

Truth be told, the game is not dead, in fact this is the most fun I have had in a long time. Honest.

In fact, to fact check you, there are actually more active players on this day then there were 3 months ago. So, although people might not be happy with this regime, they're still playing or new players have cropped up in their place.

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It does seem busy as of late...  

 

Actual spawn, Spawn

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