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GAME CHANGE: Only CAs & Players make witness statements Started by: Squishy on Aug 30, '17 20:56

Squishy, personally I think this is a bad idea, especially with the current regime, now I am pretty sure people will struggle to get past 60 days at all as they can no longer use witness statements

Only the killing of a CA will generate a witness statement.

Will there still be a WS if the CA is turned in to a RIA?

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Have the kill page in a separate tab for the slower clickers. For me its just click to the other tab and press enter.

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Tyrion-Lannister, speaking words of wisdom yet again! 

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I'll miss selling them for the 5k, they were a great source of income...:(

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It may, but MIAs really only get stolen when they are forgotten about. 

I did not forget mine and it was stolen. So its not only when they are forgotten about.

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It may, but MIAs really only get stolen when they are forgotten about.  If I see people having MIAs that just turned being taken, we can change things a bit.

I too have had 2 stolen from me today alone, and I was watching my timer and in the time it took for me to click on the freshly open M timer, my MIAs were already dead.   I know Cherry and I aren't the only ones having this issue. 

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I could be wrong but I'm sure there is at least a 30 second window after the MIA turns where only the person who bought it can see the profile. Perhaps this is what is meant by "forgotten about" when it's not killed within the time where it's only viewable to the purchaser and when it becomes public.

Personally I've never had an MIA stolen.

Just a note from the confirmation screen when purchasing an MIA:
This will create a publicly available MIA. 
It will automatically rank up to gangster and be killable less than a minute from now. 
You will be given the name and location of the MIA. 
Despite this, there is no guarantee that you will get this kill. 
In other words - this thing will automatically turn gangster very shortly, fly to the target, check the start time, and get ready to pounce.
 

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Not Cool

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It may, but MIAs really only get stolen when they are forgotten about.  If I see people having MIAs that just turned being taken, we can change things a bit.

I too have had 2 stolen from me today alone, and I was watching my timer and in the time it took for me to click on the freshly open M timer, my MIAs were already dead.   I know Cherry and I aren't the only ones having this issue. 

I've had an MIA stolen from me as well. Not cool to have it stolen from me when I'm the one that purchased it. Yea, sure, it's only a dollar, but it's my dollar :)

It would be nice if when we spawn an MIA, and someone snatched it before a certain amount of time, we could see who they are (perhaps a w/s that comes with it) so we could give them a good spanking >;)

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I could be wrong but I'm sure there is at least a 30 second window after the MIA turns where only the person who bought it can see the profile. Perhaps this is what is meant by "forgotten about" when it's not killed within the time where it's only viewable to the purchaser and when it becomes public.

 I don't have the vision to see them in locals, but if you I'D scroll... you can see their profile as soon as they turn. I know because I tried it by refreshing on the message, "This is a new MIA it will be viewable in a few minutes" and I could see as soon as it turned gangster.

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I don't have the vision to see them in locals, but if you I'D scroll... you can see their profile as soon as they turn. I know because I tried it by refreshing on the message, "This is a new MIA it will be viewable in a few minutes" and I could see as soon as it turned gangster.

Strange as I did the same thing yesterday and the profile only showed about 30 seconds after turn time and most were dead by the time the profile was publicly viewable. 

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I just tried again and the profile was visible after 6 seconds so it seems inconsistent.

Perhaps it should only be publicly visible 1 minute after turn time.

But again like the confirmation states there is no guarantee you will get kill as it essentially devolves into pay-to-win (which personally I feel the game has become anyway). The intention of MIA's is you are still meant to "race" for them but there is code put in place that all but guarantees the person who purchases gets the first shot off.

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I too have had 2 stolen from me today alone, and I was watching my timer and in the time it took for me to click on the freshly open M timer, my MIAs were already dead.   I know Cherry and I aren't the only ones having this issue. 

Orosco turned gangster at 20:01:03 and was killed 136 seconds later at 20:03:19 by another player.

Looking at the logs, you spawned it, , checked the announcements, check the streets, checked ooc, checked streets again, checked some ones profile, started looking through their post history, read some of their stuff posted, checked your mail, replied to mail, sold drugs, logged out, logged in, read mail, sent mail, sent mail, checked a profile, did mail, then 47 minutes later, made a replacement IA.

I think that if you do a whole host of activities after you spawn an MIA and forget the MIA, that it will be killed by another player 136 seconds, 731 seconds, or 17 hours later.

If you want, I can provide the logs for your activity for this MIA, and can research the one from before it too if you feel that maybe there was a bug where the timer went off a half our late or something along those lines causing a situation where it would be killed right as the timer goes off.

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The following is a list of all MIA's that were killed by someone other than their owner and the elapsed time before it was actually killed.  Some of these may be stolen.  I do not know the context for each one, or why someone who spawned it was different than someone who killed it.

 

MIA Name Turned Killed Abandoned Time
MauricioGaffer 2018-01-31 05:56:45 2018-01-31 10:26:12 4h, 29m, 27s
Markley 2018-01-31 05:41:12 2018-01-31 05:54:18 13m, 6s
AaronBerkoff 2018-01-31 01:43:31 2018-01-31 03:01:36 1h, 18m, 5s
brandonbaldearena 2018-01-31 00:30:32 2018-01-31 04:33:51 4h, 3m, 19s
Jared_Bussard 2018-01-30 23:57:40 2018-01-31 04:53:52 4h, 56m, 12s
Terisa_Edwards 2018-01-30 21:18:12 2018-01-31 03:08:29 5h, 50m, 17s
Christine_Bruce 2018-01-30 20:19:07 2018-01-30 23:00:29 2h, 41m, 22s
Bonny_Klar 2018-01-30 17:59:50 2018-01-30 19:36:24 1h, 36m, 34s
Marina_Luger 2018-01-30 17:41:40 2018-01-30 18:05:03 23m, 23s
Harold_Lachapelle 2018-01-30 16:58:41 2018-01-30 17:04:12 5m, 31s
Evia_Koperski 2018-01-30 16:54:37 2018-01-30 21:10:10 4h, 15m, 33s
Chang_Hibley 2018-01-30 16:04:06 2018-01-30 18:17:57 2h, 13m, 51s
Grappe 2018-01-30 15:50:33 2018-01-30 20:10:00 4h, 19m, 27s
Sebrina 2018-01-30 15:41:42 2018-01-30 15:44:09 2m, 27s
scott_bartl 2018-01-30 05:13:13 2018-01-30 05:15:19 2m, 6s
Calvinmoczo 2018-01-30 04:29:02 2018-01-30 08:32:11 4h, 3m, 9s
DonaldAustin 2018-01-30 02:31:38 2018-01-30 06:45:20 4h, 13m, 42s
Ka_Cambridge 2018-01-30 00:32:55 2018-01-30 00:49:41 16m, 46s
Haage 2018-01-29 22:49:41 2018-01-30 03:16:18 4h, 26m, 37s
Ulseth 2018-01-29 20:28:49 2018-01-30 00:39:40 4h, 10m, 51s
Orosco 2018-01-29 20:01:03 2018-01-29 20:03:19 2m, 16s
Richard_Ranno 2018-01-29 19:03:50 2018-01-29 23:06:27 4h, 2m, 37s
Candance 2018-01-29 16:58:21 2018-01-29 17:00:22 2m, 1s
Phyllis_Gerber 2018-01-29 08:56:57 2018-01-29 13:01:54 4h, 4m, 57s
Karen_Pletsch_ 2018-01-29 07:10:18 2018-01-29 12:18:42 5h, 8m, 24s
JeffreyHollingsworth 2018-01-29 06:49:46 2018-01-29 07:55:53 1h, 6m, 7s
Darcel_Mora 2018-01-29 03:38:39 2018-01-29 11:34:28 7h, 55m, 49s
Daniel_Schindel 2018-01-29 02:18:01 2018-01-29 02:48:28 30m, 27s
GradyPack 2018-01-29 00:12:16 2018-01-29 00:35:03 22m, 47s
Matthew_Lonie 2018-01-28 22:44:42 2018-01-28 23:31:34 46m, 52s
McNair_Oscar 2018-01-28 21:42:47 2018-01-29 01:43:49 4h, 1m, 2s
MiguelWest 2018-01-28 19:28:59 2018-01-28 20:35:05 1h, 6m, 6s
Earl_Furst 2018-01-28 19:28:02 2018-01-29 00:14:12 4h, 46m, 10s
Emma_Garst 2018-01-28 19:11:02 2018-01-28 19:15:08 4m, 6s
Morrisraulino 2018-01-28 17:55:57 2018-01-28 22:01:06 4h, 5m, 9s
ArthurMcGrane 2018-01-28 14:11:38 2018-01-28 18:15:07 4h, 3m, 29s
CarlChavez 2018-01-28 11:02:44 2018-01-28 11:09:55 7m, 11s
Roy_joerg- 2018-01-27 21:08:29 2018-01-27 22:30:56 1h, 22m, 27s
HowardHores 2018-01-26 17:32:37 2018-01-27 20:36:08 1d, 3h, 3m, 31s
LouieConterras 2018-01-26 16:53:36 2018-01-26 17:25:07 31m, 31s
Francis_Delpapa 2018-01-26 16:39:23 2018-01-26 19:40:44 3h, 1m, 21s
Yetta_Thorn 2018-01-26 14:31:44 2018-01-26 18:50:51 4h, 19m, 7s
victor_orazine 2018-01-26 14:14:32 2018-01-26 18:16:21 4h, 1m, 49s
josebaresi 2018-01-26 13:15:52 2018-01-26 17:21:36 4h, 5m, 44s
ShawnCastro 2018-01-26 13:10:04 2018-01-26 17:11:35 4h, 1m, 31s
GuillermoMcClarnon 2018-01-26 11:18:05 2018-01-26 12:18:04 59m, 59s
DougCrabb 2018-01-26 08:29:42 2018-01-26 13:29:38 4h, 59m, 56s
maolehner 2018-01-26 06:42:33 2018-01-26 07:17:18 34m, 45s
Albertina 2018-01-26 06:09:17 2018-01-26 11:06:13 4h, 56m, 56s
Debra_Kondo 2018-01-26 06:04:45 2018-01-26 10:06:03 4h, 1m, 18s
ClaytonRabon 2018-01-26 04:40:13 2018-01-26 05:44:01 1h, 3m, 48s
Winkles 2018-01-26 04:27:01 2018-01-26 05:01:20 34m, 19s
Frank_Saez 2018-01-26 03:06:13 2018-01-26 03:23:32 17m, 19s
Rota 2018-01-26 01:45:23 2018-01-26 06:49:39 5h, 4m, 16s
AlfonsoPedulla 2018-01-26 01:22:51 2018-01-26 01:31:24 8m, 33s
Delmar_Miller_ 2018-01-26 00:48:35 2018-01-26 00:57:11 8m, 36s
RichardBeachum 2018-01-26 00:25:37 2018-01-26 04:26:58 4h, 1m, 21s
Benny_Snyder 2018-01-25 21:11:27 2018-01-26 01:27:06 4h, 15m, 39s
Brenner_Augustus 2018-01-25 19:47:10 2018-01-26 03:41:35 7h, 54m, 25s
LaurelCopp 2018-01-25 18:59:32 2018-01-25 19:26:49 27m, 17s
LukeRobinson 2018-01-25 18:57:51 2018-01-26 01:35:07 6h, 37m, 16s
Jacob_Rosario 2018-01-25 18:56:53 2018-01-25 23:21:50 4h, 24m, 57s
Vincent_Touchette 2018-01-25 17:23:30 2018-01-25 21:26:05 4h, 2m, 35s
Alexismorphis 2018-01-25 17:10:48 2018-01-25 17:26:49 16m, 1s
Phillip_Batten 2018-01-25 16:12:32 2018-01-25 17:11:10 58m, 38s
Beverlee_Mobley 2018-01-25 14:57:30 2018-01-25 15:40:34 43m, 4s
Velma 2018-01-25 14:34:57 2018-01-25 22:37:45 8h, 2m, 48s
quirk 2018-01-25 06:02:36 2018-01-25 11:25:12 5h, 22m, 36s
register 2018-01-25 00:55:09 2018-01-25 06:45:21 5h, 50m, 12s
albertcone- 2018-01-25 00:49:03 2018-01-25 05:37:51 4h, 48m, 48s
JefferyRuark 2018-01-24 21:50:16 2018-01-24 22:20:37 30m, 21s
fred_calderon 2018-01-24 17:11:01 2018-01-24 17:19:43 8m, 42s
carlos-hoben 2018-01-24 16:36:03 2018-01-24 17:44:03 1h, 8m, 0s
Henry_Gaukroger 2018-01-24 16:26:41 2018-01-24 20:49:12 4h, 22m, 31s
Stephanie_Shin 2018-01-24 12:32:12 2018-01-24 14:27:05 1h, 54m, 53s
Olive_Sailer 2018-01-24 02:50:54 2018-01-24 14:44:07 11h, 53m, 13s
Balogun 2018-01-23 23:08:51 2018-01-24 06:02:04 6h, 53m, 13s
Catalina 2018-01-23 18:29:37 2018-01-24 00:10:54 5h, 41m, 17s
Sally_Milek 2018-01-23 17:30:20 2018-01-24 02:27:28 8h, 57m, 8s
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There should be no witness statements whatsoever. Besides fams kill within to make room for hands and authining and fon't ask for a WS

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