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Spam Threads And Posts A Real Problem. Started by: TM-Scarface on May 30, '18 12:59

I love how you only quote parts of things to make it look better in your favor.  Remember I have already told you I have wrote to Squishy and requested any constructive criticism and removal of any spam threads. I love how you want to attack me in the lounge and now here. I have already informed you I am new to the RP scene as this is my first character and time trying to do so and I don't mind learning and anything constructive is very much appreciated. 

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Criseria, I have no problem being completely transparent. I've already linked to the full lounge logs. I didn't link to our mob mail conversation our of respect for you, but it seems you don't care. 

So, for anyone interested, here is the mob mail conversation between Criseria and I.

Mob Mails - read bottom to top.

Criseria, like I've said repeatedly I used you as an example not an attack. And if you want to tell me that I'm attacking you then you are attacking me. TM is attacking Black Panther. Funshine is attacking TM. Jesus is attacking my mom. We can no longer have conversations with each other it's just full on attack these days. 

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Tulip you are clearly taking what could have been constructive criticism and turned it into a damn circus from what I've read you seriously have a vendetta against criseria TM or just LA in general this could have been done with a little more class if you wanted to prove a point your a hand and she's a cl try acting like it
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Renegade, in the OOC forum I'm just another player and so are you. TM brought up a discussion, I contributed to it. I don't have a vendetta against Criseria, TM or LA. What's your point here?

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Renegade, you are taking this far too personal. I understand that she is new to RP and in no way have I put down her rp abilities or picked on her writing skills. If I had I would have commented on her grammar and spelling. I didn't do that. This isn't about her abilities as a role player. This is about spam. Read the title. 

People look down on plagiarism. People look down on spam. TM brought an example of spam to the table. I brought an example of spam to the table.

I'm disappointed in you, Renegade. You come out here telling me that I should be classier and you are the one name calling. Poor form. 

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Classy. 

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Just wanna say once again this is my first time ever taking the writing root, since this thread was brought to my attention I have changed how approach things in my writing. I was always told "give it a go" and I finally have and I love it. I have no problem with how anyone writes it's all giving it a shot. I'm sorry if there are people out there in this world of ours that don't like it but I'm not going to stop because like it. I have already said I love getting in Character it's fun so I will continue. I love you all here in this community can we all just get along and be friends.
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And FYI 1 example you said?? Your harassing someone via lounge ooc and mobmails that's ridiculous your not picking one example your picking one person and continuously attacking them
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You ain't doing much wrong panther mate everyone can always improve keep it up lad
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As fun as this pissing contest is, if the two sides are done airing their grievances can we get back to discussing actual practical suggestions about the problem at hand please?

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Alright. We really need to stop this. This thread started out as someone stating their frustration with a situation. Names were not called. I'm very sad that all the focus went to BlackPanther. He is not the only one and if he's just wanting to learn then we should all gather around him and help him if he wants help.

Now... You can call it making an example, but when names are called then that constitutes as an attack in my book. Now please excuse me, I don't want to be one to continue the business here or the mud flinging, however I do believe that the conversation that's going on here is best effective in private. If one is concerned about the welfare of the writing community then I believe the proper and respectful manner would be to take it to them in private and perhaps to offer to help them, not call them out in lounge chat. If more drastic measures are required, bring admins into the situation and they can make the call.

Honestly franchises are a thing, a business that does well does tend to expand. This is a real thing, so why would we not add it into our writing? I don't personally see this as spam. Yes perhaps there could be some tweaking if the artist chooses, but that would come with time and experience.

We do need to handle this situation respectfully, however, and I feel that there's quite a lack of that around today so I do request that we put this issue to rest. The admins have been notified, have I not read this? So let's put the issue down and let them make the call.

Thank you all, I adore each of you and hope dearly that we can put this issue to rest. Back to work with me now. My inbox is open if more discussion is needed.
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I'm not going to spend ages reading all the bickering here.. but one thing I feel should be addressed is the lack if knowledge by certain people throwing around accusations.

Criseria does indeed have a few business' that similar set ups. However, there isn't anything wrong with the business itself. The only issue there would be is the Menu being posted being the same - but as Criseria has the Menu in BlockQoutes this means she receives no credit for the Menu itself.

So really the only thing someone can have issue with here is the fact she has taken the time to set up a business in various districts. Sounds more like jealousy than anything really.

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OK I defied myself and read the bickering. I've also removed a couple of posts due to the OOC Insults contained, please remember folks that there is never going to be an excuse for hurling insults at each other OOC.

I also must stand up a little fur Tulip. It's very clear why Tulip made the point they did. However again referring back to their initial issue; plagiarism wasn't used by Criseria - she quoted the menu. If I quote something Einstein said, I'm not plaigiarising Einstein. This is why the blockquote feature stops anything within the block quote from giving any credit on that post - its intended to be used for un-original material, like it was in this case with the Menu.

I also feel due to the pissing contest that its gone un-noticed that Tulip's intention is simply to improve and better things. Is that so wrong? Maybe they went around it the wrong way, but the message itself isn't necessarily flawed.

I hope people can drop that particular situation now and focus more on the grand scheme of things.

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I certainly didn't disagree with helping anyone in RP I myself said she handled it wrong making a point is fine but running around lounge ooc and persistent mm's is just plain harassment there are certain ways to handle things.
Sure I got a wee bit excited too which was wrong, I can see tulip trying to take the piss is all any criticism she was due could have been delivered much better, this looks more like a smear campaign
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I just want to chime in on this situation. First off, I think we all agree plagiarism is bad (duh). Secondly, I think this situation, even if it was started because of a couple people having some sort of conflict in ideology over writing substance, is an important conversation. In my opinion, the idea of a spam post boils down to whether or not the thread has any substance, if it's of literary merit. This question is extremely subjective, I mean, who are we to decide if so-and-so can write a story about something 'interesting' if they truly believe it is a story worth sharing to the community in general? 

Secondly, I called it a conversation because I think the forums are extremely helpful in providing a good method of communication between people that may not usually talk in clan, local, global chat... This conversation can be between a group of people, but it is often broadcast to anybody that clicks on the thread. Inevitably, there are people who are reading this thread and not replying because they are in no way required to reply. Those people also have opinions of this situation, just like they would have an opinion on so-and-so's story. That opinion might be that it sucked, or they really liked it, but it's generally difficult for an outside observer to gauge the community's reaction to a story. 

TLDR: Anybody that posts on the forums can affect the general mood of the community, and they should take into consideration their platform in posting any content. Whatever content they post should be their own, but what they choose to post can be anything within reasonable limits of literary merit (at least in the cred-rewarding areas). Although the forums are a powerful tool to bring light on a certain situation that can be irking you or actually pissing you off, it is generally better to talk to that person about your qualms face to face and without malice than to air out the situation to the public with all but their name, thinly veiled in secrecy. 

I think that as long as somebody enjoys the content being posted, then it has no reason to do anything but continue.

No beef to anyone mentioned previously in the thread, hope you guys can figure it out.

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