Louis_T . I was surprised by the news of you out here on the streets screaming such foul and disrespectful thoughts. Especially so, seeing it involves me directly. So, let me address your antics and hopefully settle your frustration over the loss of your father; may he rest in peace. 

I was approached by many men who were concerned for the well being of MichaelJackson. They provided a note in which had implicated your father as being involved in a shooting which resulted in a failed killing of MichaelJackson. 

With that being said, I was not all convinced by the mere piece of paper. This day in age we see forged documents all too often; from coffee shops to these sort of things. So, what did I do? I have faith in my associates, rather than a knee-jerk reaction; I stopped to speak with you directly. I didn't want to take an associates life who had spent barely three days in this thing of ours. 

During our conversation you claimed you made no attempt on MichaelJackson. The plot then thickened, I for a moment thought someone was out to end an innocent associate. I responded by asking for your honesty, and sharing that the same error has occurred in the days of past of my own lineage. 

You then responded, stating the allegations were true. It was at that time I shared the mistake was irreparable in the form the the last words shared with your father. 

No, I didn't remove your father's weapon. There was no need; an associate at three days old of employment was not any type of threat. Not only that, the common indications of rogue activity weren't present. My faith in you may have blinded a better judgment and, my trust that a potentially new associate who was eager to learn the ways of the world may have led me astray. However, there was no incompetence in my actions. 

Simply put, I did not want to end the life of an associate whom I thought was barely getting his feet wet in this thing of ours. Such action has terrible consequences, pushing the possibilities of their ancestors to never return.

I know now your father's intentions were to never be a contributing member of our society. I won't speak ill of the dead; so I won't say much more. However, you, Louis; have much to learn. Your lineage traces back quite some time and it's evident your ancestors knew better. They would be disappointed.

Good luck.

Vaelin - shhh, the big boys are talking.

Brutus, my thanks for your taking the take to write a thoughtful response.

However, I must ask, who could have been making up W/S to frame members of your family?  Why, on earth, could that have been a possibility?

Secondly, and most importantly, please, be honest.  Simply admit that you should have, but didn't, disarm me.

That is a simple fact.  Not an unforgivable one, but a fact nonetheless.

Gunnar was walking through the streets, looking for something to occupy his time. It seemed he may have found it when he saw yet another troll looking individual prowling the streets. Singing the same old "My crew leader is the worst, mommy and daddy never loved me tune"

"Oy, what in that mind of yours makes you think you deserve a second response? Or the first one? I'd say your attempts for attention and recognition were pathetic, but they are clearly working. So, me man. Good on ya! If only you were to focus your energy on something productive, you'd be a fine young lad!"

Gunnar turned to walk away, not believing this troll was worth any more of his time, let alone a respected crew leaders time.

Gunnar_Everett - I brought a bona fide question of crew and man management to these Streets for discussion.

The bait was set and Louis has caught a couple of big ones. Someone pass him the landing net.

the whole of this is actually very much stupid. you took a shot at me, louis, okay, shit happens. i forgive you, but whats the point of this

The point, MichaelJackson, is that Brutus failed to act as a CL should act in the circumstances.

are you seriously trying to make him seem like the bad guy now? when you were the one who shot me? lol ok

Brutus is NOT a bad guy; but he is a BAD CL.

That is your opinion sir. You are entitled to that opinion, however twisted and skewed it may be.

However it is the opinion of the people who currently matter, such as myself, that he is an excellent leader and a key cog of my city. 

If you don't like him, go somewhere else, I am sure he can find people better suited for his family.

I realize this was your entire intention with this thread, and I may be "biting" as dear Boydy so helpfully pointed out. But I will not stand by and allow a leader in my city have his reputation tarnished by you, or anyone else. Not ever.

Taradiddle_ walks into the discussion a bit late. But he had good reasons to show up late, of which the main one was that he had left home late today. Yet, he arrived well in time to notice a number of discrepancies in @LouisT's story.

Why..? @LouisT, why do you first state that your father made a mistake and later call him a rogue? And after that ask AnthonyTanzini what a rogue is..? Taradiddle_ shook his head

Me, for one, would not be proud of my bloodline, if..
He was hoping Wayne was not listening anymore and turn the discussion back to Taradiddle_'s instead

..if my father was making a mistake and instead of coming clean would go crazy and aim his untrained gun at a random person, only to fail a kill once again. Maybe Brutus should have taken the gun, indeed, but then again, I know nothing about the timing, nor about the conversations between the involved ones. My opinion on the situation is that in this case Brutus may have esteemed your father higher than he should have, in retrospect, as he perhaps was willing to believe the mistake-story and trust your father's words about the accident. All I know for sure is that I would not be proud of my father, if I were in your situation, @LouisT. Clearly, he was not a major hazard.

And it wasn't a mistake, was it, Louis?

Jester rides his unicycle into the streets.  He smiles as he tosses a few potatoes to the crowd.  He puffed on a cigarette as he noticed that things were getting hot in the August sun.  He takes off the top of his Jester getup to reveal a shirt that had the 4 letters TLDR scrawled across it. He smiled with a look of pity on his face as he tossed some troll food to the poor little fella, although he already looked full.

"So, basically - what Brutus is guilty of is investigating, and not jumping to conclusions.  He gave your kin an attempt to explain himself and gave him the benefit of the doubt.  Sounds like a guy who is rational and benevolent.  I don't even know the guy - but I think he's doing just fine.  Your kin, however, broke pretty well every rule of this thing of ours - and then lay the blame at someone else's feet.  So - I guess the answer is yes - he should be allowed to continue.  Now please, run along to the old country."

Jester lights a fresh smoke and pumps the tires on his unicycle full before he goes out to find himself a nice lunch.

Taradiddle_ no, it wasn't a mistake. It was two targeted assassination attempts. Deanwinchester- made the whole of his city a target.  So I went after Chicago people.  

I'm sure DeanWinchester- is shaking in his boots.

And this just keeps on, in a way funny to read but honestly, isnt there any more important than this or am I wrong Louis_T

Keeping on this just makes more and more people, well think self.

Peace out and try to forget and live on without looking so much back each time.

Louis_T.. I think even the late Seattle judge Mopontop Tops Topperson would be clueless to rule in your favour in his rigged wicked court.. And yea, you could buy almost any outcome there..

Tonight, my father shot at MichaelJackson.  He missed.  It was all a mistake.

Taradiddle_ no, it wasn't a mistake. It was two targeted assassination attempts.

What do you think, Oxygene?

DeanWinchester- I have joined a family, and pledged my loyalty to them.  I ask you to respect me as a member of that family and to let bygones be bygones.  

It seems we have some good friends in common.

I wish you all the best.