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Respect the Dead! Started by: Alfie on Dec 10, '19 15:07

Alfie had thought about how to word his thoughts, to get his point across, but finally he'd come to the conclusion that the easiest way was to be blunt.

"You know, my bloodline has been around these parts for a long time.  They've seen many wars, takedowns, dictatorships, and backstabbing.  Hell, my kin have been involved in some of them.  My ancestors haven't necesarily been proud of their actions, some have been regretted, but they held themselves accountable."

"One thing that has been passed down from generation to generation, however, is the lesson regarding respect.  Particularly, respecting the dead, and the lack of this has reared it's ugly head over the past 24 hours...it may be a common occurence, but it has definitely been more noticeable."

"You know, Princess was shot dead this morning.  As my father was her Left Hand Man, at various times, and during this war, her Right Hand Man, I guess he can be partly held accountable for some of the recent events.  I'm sure he'd hold his hands up and accept that.  Did he know the plans she had made?  Would it have made any difference if he had?  Not in the slightest, I'm sure.  His sole role was to support her!   What he'd hate to see is the vitriol that has been directed at her during her funeral service, published in her obituaries, and screamed out loud in the coffee shops we all frequent.  In the most part this has been done by civilians and thugs, or people not planning on staying in this thing of ours long enough to face the consequences of their actions.  Cowardly actions."

"I don't doubt that some of these people might have kin who have been impacted by the actions and decisions of Princess...but guess what?  This is the fucking MAFIA!  We cheat, we steal, we kill, we plot takeovers and assume power is ours to be taken.  If you or your ancestors don't have the balls to say what you think of someone while they're alive, then I have to say, you're a fucking pussy.  And maybe you should contemplate a career change!"

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Ciaran reaches deep, deeeeeeeeep behind the soapbox and finds a nice sturdy bucket. He sets the bucket beneath Alfie, and steps back to make sure the positioning is good.

Please aim your tears here mate. I would like to soak myself in them later.

However, you're right, this is the "fucking MAFIA!" blah blah, bitches backstab, blah blah. Pretty sure she was told to her face as well though. She was a traitor. She didn't deserve to live.

How do we define this, you ask? Easy. She turned her back on the Godfather, Aegor, who made her what she was and gave her the position she obtained. For that, she deserved her death. Plus you know, being a liar and doing what her kin always does.

Shrug.

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Blink blinks at this crazy person speaking in the streets and flips them off.

So exploiting a bug, taking billions and distributing it to attain complete control is ok? Fuck you!

Blink moves along to see what other idiot is out there.

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QueenFrostine tilted her head curiously at the very dramatic gesture. She shook her head before stepping forward. 

Calling my mother a traitor is harsh. She was left standing and decided to give her city a fighting chance, which is what any city leader should want. She never had any less respect for Aegor or the rest of the city heads as her bloodline had worked with them before.

Pretty bad when the betrayers who were going to betray now feel betrayed. 

QueenFrostine moves the bucket over towards Seattle to make sure there wouldn't be any more mess from leaks. 

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Let us not finger point, it is childish.

Let us finger PAINT instead!

Vapor begins finger painting on the sidewalk using oil spills.

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Fuck princess. She has been shitty to people most of her line, forgive me if I don’t shed a tear.
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Pretty bad when the betrayers who were going to betray now feel betrayed. 

QueenFrostine, and how does that feel acting like a traitor and dying in vain without contributing to virtually anything? Any notes in your mommy journals about that?

"The betrayers", haha. I don't know why, it makes me think of Jesus and the apostles. The way you tell the story, it seems like Judas was betrayed, not the other way around. Heh.

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Pretty bad when the betrayers who were going to betray now feel betrayed

I'd like to analyze this statement, because there's a lot of betraying being betrayed, and some of those who might be less informed than I have a right to know the truth behind the betrayal(s)?

So, for starters QueenFrostine, your mother conspired to betray Mikhail along with the other members of LSI. This much has been confirmed by sources within the group. Certainly, they were betrayers in this sense, as were you, but they felt they had already been betrayed by Mikhail due to his derogatory relationship with CommissarZvarev, among others. 

Next, one of two possibilities seems to have occurred.

  1. You betrayed your fellow betrayers by telling Mikhail of your intended betrayals. OR
  2. Someone from Seattle was told of the plan and then betrayed their leader by telling Mikhail of the betrayal, or by telling a third party who then betrayed the betrayer of the betrayers by telling Mikhail. At which point you betrayed your betrayer friends for self preservation's sake.

Either way, you don't come out looking very good.

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This isn't your average everyday betrayal.

This is... advanced betrayal.

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I think I need a diagram.

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Sorry, CorneliusVanderbilt, I read that initially as diaphragm.

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For anyone who wasn't able to listen to this mans speech I can condense it for you,

"LEAVE PRINCESS ALONE!!!!!!"

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In regards to Princess and her mother? Sister? Who knows. QueenFrostine, maybe it just sucks to suck? Yeah. That.

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The Rock has to laugh at all this betrayal nonsense. The Rock's family has no love for Princess, in fact if the Rock could dance a jig he'd probably dance on her grave, but like that jabroni, Alfie, the Rock's family is old school and you don't dis someone at the graveside, you come to the streets and you put up, or shut up, like many of you have done right here. But betrayal? Come on guys. The Rock want's to tell you a little story about a man, you can call him Betty, I'll call him Al. Now Al, or Snorky to his friends, worked out of Chicago. He started out in the street gangs, worked his way up to Made man, Right Hand Man, and eventually Boss when his own Boss stepped down. Al based his operations in Cicero, Illinois, but he wanted control all of Chicago, so he had the Leader of North Side murdered. He made alliances with Politicians, he had his own men murdered for allegedly conspiring with others. 

As is often said, this is the Mafia, we lie, we cheat, we extort, we make alliances, and we break those alliances when they are no longer beneficial. So what if she betrayed Aegor and the rest of Los Angeles, she made a grab for power as often happens in this thing of ours, and ultimately she failed. Some see her as a Hero, some see her as a traitor, all that Princess knows is that she's dead. If anyone is to blame for her so called treachery, its those who placed her in her position of power in the first place. Knowing her bloodlines history they promoted her to a position of power, and then they sent her out to New York to take control, at that point she no longer was beholden to them, she had her own City to look after, and she did what she thought was right for her city, for her family and her members. As for Mikhail's relationship with CucumberZipcode or what ever his name was, any flak that he took was of his own creation, he was the one that flouted the rules, and tried to be a law unto himself, the only shock is that Mikhail didn't kill him before Cityhall arrested him and had him executed.

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betrayal to the fullest

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Blink blinks at this crazy person speaking in the streets and flips them off.

So exploiting a bug, taking billions and distributing it to attain complete control is ok? Fuck you!

Blink moves along to see what other idiot is out there.

Reply by: Blink at Dec 10, '19 15:33

 

Blink, I hope you know what your talking about here, instead of making baseless accusations born from assumptions. Lets also not forget that Seattle started out on one side, changed, then changed back again. 

This war as most seem to know, stems from the fact a few Godfather's were going to take down Mikhail. Princess alerted Mikhail, Mikhail struck first.

What the above comment from Blink implies is that somehow these original attackers are somehow innocent. You dont think these people benefited from the exploitation of Casino's that was done? Of course they fucking did. I'd wager they benefited just as much as the likes of Mikhail, considering they were close enough to him.

The fact is, onces these folks died, only then did they run to the Gods to alert them of the issues with the Casino and how it was leaking money. So, hardly think these people are any sort of saviour, if anything they are just as bad as Mikhail and Commissar.

A lot of those attacking seem to think that loads of people knew about the benefits from this Casino issue. I was Right Hand to BringMeLuck, she and I sure knew nothing of any ill gotten gains. However, she benefited just like many others as funds were shared for hiring the likes of BGs - something the Gods ensured was rectified by taking away said bodyguards, or an equivalent refund in cash.

Taking the entire Casino fiasco and including that in the issues with the War, serves no-one. People on both sides benefited from the Casino issue and there are many many victims in my opinion, all caused by the two main instigators, but enabled by those on top alongside who evidently knew of the issue but did nothing.

The entire thing is the biggest clusterfuck in the 18 years my bloodline has been around these streets.

I did have something more to add.. but i think i'll go down the street and find my own corner to share it..

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What the above comment from Blink implies is that somehow these original attackers are somehow innocent. You dont think these people benefited from the exploitation of Casino's that was done? Of course they fucking did. I'd wager they benefited just as much as the likes of Mikhail, considering they were close enough to him.

You should only speak on what you know. Only the cheaters and the one who alerted knew of the exploits. Also some never accepted money for BG's or to bolster their guns.  

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 You dont think these people benefited from the exploitation of Casino's that was done? Of course they fucking did. I'd wager they benefited just as much as the likes of Mikhail, considering they were close enough to him.

I'd like to echo Papa's sentiments that you should only speak on what you know about, old friend. And expand on it a bit as well.

None of Viktor, Aegor, Vociferus, JohnWalton, Dominick, or Chibs was given "gifted money" by Mikhail.  The majority of his dirty money was kept within Las Vegas, which was a mitigating factor in the aforementioned feelings of betrayal those men felt. Any money Mikhail sent to them (Viktor, John) was sent to them in the form of loans that were paid back plus interest, so that he could further profit. They certainly benefited, yes, but not to the extent as some others working directly under Mikhail. Vociferus and Chibs weren't even capped at their time of death. JohnWalton didn't reach cap until 160 days old. This was part of why those men felt that Mikhail no longer had the common interest and core beliefs that LSI was founded upon.

As for my father, the one who "ran to the gods," he obviously should have reported it immediately. He battled with it for a very long time: trying to weigh his loyalty to his best friend and keeping his secret vs. his strong disdain for any rule breaking. He never partook in any of the casino actions, he only kept quiet about it and owned a casino for their operation, bought with their money, which he never touched. 

When he died and his journals passed into my hand, it was clear that the info needed to be shared, as the illegal fortune he had built up would have a massive impact over the next few generations. My intention was not to see Mikhail ended in this way, I was more after the evil CommissarZverev, but alas, I should have expected collateral damage.

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You should only speak on what you know. Only the cheaters and the one who alerted knew of the exploits. Also some never accepted money for BG's or to bolster their guns.  

That was precisely my point, Papa. The cheaters (im assuming we are referring to the ones killed by Gods) and also the one that alerted the Gods were the main instigators in this war. The entire community is bogged down in a war caused by these people. What are we all actually fighting over here? None of those left alive and still fighting were the cause of any issues - we are simply fighting because we believe it to be the right thing to do - fight until the other side are dead.

So for clarity, when I refer to the original attackers - I meant the man behind the decision to alert the gods, who was also the man behind the decision to remove Mikhail. Funny how on his death bed he reached out to God to air his sins and bring down the world with him, then we all simply continue to go along with it and die because of those that cheated us all.

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As for my father, the one who "ran to the gods," he obviously should have reported it immediately. He battled with it for a very long time: trying to weigh his loyalty to his best friend and keeping his secret vs. his strong disdain for any rule breaking.

How are you not banished like the others for sitting on this information for "a very long time"? That is some complicit-ass, weak-bodied shit, bro. Ever heard of a dumbbell? I mean god DAMN. I've seen spider-webs with more muscle mass than you. I'm over here looking like a god damn Frank Gehry building and you're mumbling through mea culpa's looking like the ghost of famine's past. Have you no shame, baby Vapes? 

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