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| Osama Bin Laden Killed! | Started by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT on May 02, '11 03:59 |
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Erm... |
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| Reply by: RavenPritchard at May 04, '11 18:40 | |
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Yet they had absolutely no problem with showing pictures, even a video of Saddam Hussein's execution? They didn't care about retaliation then?
I smell something beneath the surface. |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at May 04, '11 19:17 | |
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Saddam Hussein wasn't the leader of Al Qaeda, though |
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| Reply by: onizuka at May 04, '11 19:26 | |
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Still though. Theres no proof that he is dead. I'm not saying that he is or isnt but there is no proof of either or. |
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| Reply by: Hickey at May 04, '11 22:30 | |
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Bin Laden has been dead for some time now,whoever was killed on that day i really dont believe it was him. |
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| Reply by: StillSmokin at May 04, '11 22:31 | |
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Why would ya say he was killed for some time now? |
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| Reply by: Hickey at May 04, '11 22:34 | |
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It makes no sense why no pictures were released, as TCL said Saddams execution was everywhere and i know people say "Who wants to see pictures in the paper" or "He's a leader so they wouldnt want to provoke reactions" but lets face it, it would be seen. Whether via newspapers or online websites, we would have seen a picture. I cant believe that it has taken our well trained, well equiped troops this long to find such an influential man over in Afghan. I believe that he was found a long time ago and with-holding this information gives a solid reason for the presence of our armies. I still believe its all about what can be gained from Afghanistan, alot of oil over there, alot of money, not mentioning the fact that Afghanistan is probably the biggest producer of heroin and marijuana in the world and by taking control of such a place could be very benificial. This is all just my own opinion and i am a theorist, i mean no offense to anyone THIS IS MY OWN OPINION. |
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| Reply by: StillSmokin at May 04, '11 23:14 | |
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Yet they had absolutely no problem with showing pictures, even a video of Saddam Hussein's execution? They didn't care about retaliation then? |
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| Reply by: RavenPritchard at May 05, '11 04:14 | |
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It's not new people running the country at all. It's always been about Democrats vs Republicans. One man being different isn't going to change how the whole system works. I happen to feel it's all bullshit as well. (No offense to those that feel pride and whatnot) My personal opinion is that Osama died years ago. If he hadn't, would he not have planned another attack? |
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| Reply by: Phreaking_Panda at May 05, '11 04:45 | |
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This is America. For Americans! That will be a new motto in the future I can feel it. regardless of the time of his death, he had friends that are powerful. Why are some of you stuck on theories that have been buzzing through the internet? Conspiracy theories are just that, theories. I don't see any facts of the goverment lieing to us. You must think their in a state of frenzy ready for an attack by some lunatic occult leader who condones what Bin Laden did not just to America but to his own people because he was power hungry. Get off the bandwargon and live your life. I feel its better to naiive then to believe in theories. |
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| Reply by: StarFOX- at May 05, '11 12:21 | |
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People definitely need to stop reading too much into this. Let it go. It's okay.
But just so we're clear about the differences - i.e. why pictures were released of one and not the other. Think about these issues - Saddam wasn't shot by AMERICAN specdial forces. He was tried by an international court (very clearly not american court), found guilty, and executed. WE didn't kill him in a fire fight in the dead of night with two bullets to the head.
Personally, I think posting pictures of this guy - just makes him a martyr to his followers. Very bad.
Now - if you've read Sarah Palin's reasons why she thinks we should release the picture...wow. She's really that stupid? Talk about potential backlash. |
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| Reply by: Andrew_Paxton at May 05, '11 14:36 | |
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I read on Sarah Palin's reason for releasing the picture as well. What a dumb broad... and some people want her as president!?
Releasing the picture would make Bin Laden even more of an Islamic icon... As Andrew stated, Osama Bin Laden was basically a god to his people, keeping him alive and even taking measures to take him to trial would be the worst decision to make. AQ would retaliate without a doubt, in my opinion the hasty burial was an excellent idea. |
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| Reply by: Genesis at May 05, '11 15:41 | |
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I honestly couldn't be more pleased with how this ended (other than the amount of time it took to catch him, of course). I hardly agree with the President on everything, but it took guts to make the decision to send in a strike team as opposed to dropping a bomb from 5 miles up. |
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| Reply by: Crawford at May 05, '11 17:28 | |
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Face it...no conspiracy theory is correct. Never has been. People who buy into conspiracies are just people who want to believe they're somehow more enlightened and they're deep thinkers that can see through the smoke screen to the real truth. Here's the real truth. Bin Laden is dead. He was killed by a member of the Navy Seals Team Six during a raid on his compound in Abbattabad. There were pictures and videos taken. The body was offered to the Saudis who declined and they dumped his body in the ocean. The videos of the raid will not be released because it shows operational information that people can use against out special forces troops. It was decided by the White House not to release the pictures of the body citing precedent and the fear of it creating a negative impact on the image of the US as well as possibly provoke attacks on US interests abroad. End of story. |
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| Reply by: Bismarck at May 05, '11 23:11 | |
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Dead For Years. |
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| Reply by: StillSmokin at May 05, '11 23:14 | |
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And what benefit would it be to hide his death for years and announce it now? If it were to keep our troops in Afghanistan they surely wouldn't be announcing it now. If it were for political reasons they would have waited until election year to bring this out. You're welcome to your opinion just know that it has no basis in reality. |
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| Reply by: Bismarck at May 05, '11 23:38 | |
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Read my last post. |
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| Reply by: StillSmokin at May 06, '11 00:07 | |
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Bismarck, I don't personally believe in these conspiracy theories and I do indeed believe he was killed. But I believe your assertion that "...the hard work was laid out during Bush's administration."
Bush had a chance to have Bin Laden handed to him a long time ago, but he rejected it. Obviously now we know it was because he would no longer have grounds for waging his personal war. That is the true conspiracy. He didn't want to find him.
Exhibit A: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5 |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at May 06, '11 02:29 | |
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I meant to say I believe your assertion that "the hard work laid out during Bush's administration" is inaccurate and wrong. |
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| Reply by: TWENTYCHARACTERLIMIT at May 06, '11 02:30 | |
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Thank you, TCL. Thank you for once again proving the point I made about how people twist facts to fit their agenda. Where in your exhibit A does it say that Bush rejected an offer to have Bin Laden handed to him? It clearly says that there was no offer to turn him over. What it says is the Taliban where willing to discuss handing over Bin Laden to a 3rd party country if the bombing of Afghanistan was ceased and the US could prove that Bin Laden was guilty of the 9/11 attack. Reading is fundamental. |
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| Reply by: Bismarck at May 06, '11 06:18 | |
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