Mikey,

And Thor your statement saying should have done this, should have done that, really means nothing. Because we all know things don't always happen the way they should.

My statement is correct, just you don't see it. Things could have happened the exact way myself and Gene suggested, if people were patient and had half a brain.

Pharol

Thor, stop jumping on every anti-Philadelphia bandwagon. You did this with ManicStreetPreacher's ramblings, you did this with FattyFat's analysis of our city. Gene has made your point very clear, so maybe it's time to either come up with your own anti-Philly rally, or leave this one alone.

Until the city and Lotta shows it is capable of actually running a city i will continue slating the city at every opportunity, if i believe it is needed.

And, congratulations Pharol, hopefully with you as underboss Philly can transform.

So you are trying to tell me that the Godfather council are that harsh they would not have given you 48 hours grace to transfer members from one crew to another?

They are that inhumane they would have shot you and carried out sanctions against your city for trying to save innocent lives?

Be honest now? Did you ask?

If that was how it went down then the Godfather council will be seen in an absolutely appalling light. I just cannot see it being done?

You are disgusted that us 'jackasses' are amazed at how you have allowed members you deemed fit to wear the badges of Earner and Wise Guy, even though they did not follow simple orders, to die?

I am frankly disgusted you deem this matter to be ok.

The way you suggested, Thor, would break GF Council policy. Had we done it that way, you would've complained about us not following the rules (a complaint that has been made so many times). Lotta is quite capable of running the city, and if your bias prevents you from seeing that; it's your problem. Not ours.

Gene, "those you deemed fit to wear Earner and Wise Guy badges"? Are you kidding me? We don't "deem" anything of them, that's why it's not up to the Crewleader to hand out those promotions. Or were you not aware of that?

You said it yourself. They didn't follow simple orders. They had plenty of time to do what was necessary to preserve their lives, and they didn't do it. They were 100% in control of their own life, and they didn't put forth the effort to keep it. How is that LottaBEssen's fault? I'm not "ok" with people disobeying orders, and paying the ultimate price for it. But I'm not going to sit on a Street corner and bitch about it because it didn't go my way.

Er, It's entirely your choice what rank people sit at. You see you have this amazing thing called demotion. Where you take a rank away from someone for not doing as they are told. Or were you not aware of that?

Anyhows, for the second time, I'm offski. I have a man to see about a dog.

I do not know which is worse, the fact this incident happened at all or the fact you are half-heartedly trying to defend your pitiful actions.

If you really believe what happened today was justified then I seriously fear for Philadelphia's future.

So when you look at it; Philly had two ways to play this. Break the GF Council policy and set up more HQs than allowed, or do our best to work around the scenario in which we were put.

There would have been no rule breaking for both HQs to remain under such circumstances imo. But thats neither here nor there, as Lotta herself has said, People were given notice and arrangements were made for transfers, those that didn't receive one are at fault, not the leadership. Its a shame that lives were lost, but clearly they were given a chance to prevent their own deaths and chose to ignore it for whatever reason.

I really don't see how the fuck a big debate has come from such a simple announcement. If those who don't agree with what's changed don't like it.. then lump it. If any of these people cared to look when Cata stepped down he had 7 other members with the 8th as himself.

So.. that's 7 members.. it's hardly leaving a bunch of people open for slaughter. So.. get your facts right before you come ranting your mouths for fuck sake.

Also.. I believe that Cataclysmic didn't request to the gods himself for his HQ to be taken from him at the time he did. He was waiting out a little longer to allow for more housing. So.. get your facts right.

Oh and.. Congratulations Pharol on your new position. I know you'll do a fantastic job with Lotta and I wish you all the best. It is a shame that Cata has had to step down but sometimes.. things can get hairy in the other life.

Thor pinches Barbara's cheek

Get back to the kitchen woman, I'm hungry and you shit talking is making it worse.

Barbara slaps Thor

Damn you! I thought you were gone.. spoiled my chance to leave the kitchen and here you are. Sorry boss, I'll get back to cooking your chips and rat poison... I mean gravy.

SpaceCowboy applauds after hearing the exciting news in philly and searches for a cigar, tosses it to Pharol and smiles.

Congratulations Pharol! This is a pleasant sight to see you get the chance you deserve.  Our bloodlines have known each other since years now and im proud to see you lead your own family and be given the nod to setup as underboss of philly. I look forward to seeing great things happen!

Smiles once more before leaving to the nearest airport. 

Pharol, our bloodlines go back to when you first came to these shores. I hope you'll take the lessons your ancestors taught you to heart.

Omerta. Onore. Sangue e Famiglia

The worst part is detroit's leadership will do nothing about it. You'll sit there on your high horses not being punished for things that have called for punishment since this thing of ours began. Thor for someone who's line is so controversial as a shitty leader you sure love to call people out for it dont you.

Congrats pharol, don't let the retards sway you.

I think you will find Compact that things are said behind closed doors as well as on these streets. I have spoken to members of Philly and things are amicable. There is no massive issue here nor is anyone a retard. Except you.

What would you have Detroits leadership punish people for? Having a voice? Gag each and every one of us from speaking? I apologise if I seem disrespectful. I didn't openly disrespect anyone as far as I remember and merely offered a point of view different to Philadelphias hierarchy.

Not a month ago the calls were to allow free speech. Now you want it stopped? As long as it's respectful. Whats the issue? No complaints have been received?

Pharol Congrats

Thor for someone who's line is so controversial as a shitty leader you sure love to call people out for it dont you.

Your own opinion there buddy. This is the first time i have ever heard of this.

Must have your ears shut pretty tight then man.

How is continuously bashing a city respectful gene?

I have a voice and opinion. I like to use them.

I do not have a personal vendetta against Philly despite what it may seem. I am merely active and vocal. If Philly don't something good then I'd be one of the first here to congratulate them.

Continuously bashing a city?

As I said. Things are said away from these streets. As I also said. I had a different view point to that city. It is not bashing them in any sense of the word. I have not come here and just gone off on one for no reason. I had a view point, shared it, discussed it and then left.

You then roll up and try and cause an issue where there isn't one. Seems like the bloodline traits are continuing from your father and I am not willing to continue talking to you when you are not responding to my points and just trying to get a raise out of me.