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Regarding References Started by: ExternalLink on May 22, '08 18:22
You know everyone was quick to have Alfonzo's family members offed for referencing, but not one of N4G members have taken a fall..


So I ask, this rule in place appropriate? Do you really need to reference people when there are always going to be rogues? making it harder to enjoy this world is doing nothing to help it.


Of course I'm sure maybe some key members happened to of authed him, so he wants to wait and see if anything is said. That or he just doesn't have a list cause he's not following that same system at all.


Only fair to those who worked so hard to see there deaths come to them.


Anyways, I see no positives in this world, pretty saddening.


Yet we keep coming back too it. Weird :/


Anyhow, till next time


EL
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I presume you have some facts to back up your rather random mutterings.


Or have you been knocking back the Meths again?
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Or maybe you didn't do any research at all into anything you've said.


I'll go with that one.
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This is why you only refrence people you trust with your life, Thats the way this thing of ours works.


I personaly would never think of going "rogue" simply because of the fact my referee's would face the same fate as me. This system works when people don't just refer people they know but the people they trust implicitly.
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Well Numbers who is the references? He may not have done research but I only see one dead after moneybags and thats an earner. So wheres the others. Should be three plus one of made man or above. I'm just saying he's right. All of the references for Alfonzos family are dead yet none from yours.
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What Numbers is probably saying is that MoneyBags refs died before MoneyBags went rogue. so therefore there was no one to punish.
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Or if all of them are dead then maybe say who so we know. I mean to be respectful threw this whole thing and I'm sorry I came off rude, but hows a thug to know everything of the references since they're turned into _Rhuarc_ and only him. Only CL's and RH's know.
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Zadkiel is there a brain in between those ears of yours, or do you just listen to the shit other people say.


Im thinking the later because if you were able to engage a brain you would think about possible rerasons as to why they aren't dead, then apply the other pair of glasses you wear, (Not the anti CP rose tinted ones). Then just maybe you might possibly put two and two together and not get fucking 9.
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I really hate having to do this but...

Find me one of his references still walking the streets and I'll gladly shoot them.


Until then a little research before you open your mouth might help.

Reply by: Numbers4Glory at May 22, '08 18:21



Sine Numbers has already stated that the references are no longer walking the streets that would suggest they are dead.
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Anti CP? I could care less about CP. They can do whatever they want. I have that of possibilities but how am I to know till said facts are well actually said. As far as anti CP. Im neutral and could care less about whose the dominating group. So whip your ass with that and save your remarks for someone who cares.
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I'm pretty sure that who everyones referrals are is no ones business but who's business they make it.


I for one didn't even want to know the names of the people that referred me, the fact that I didn't have to ask for those referrals makes them that much more important to me...someone OFFERED to refer me. Those people that did, I thank you, and its only my Bosses business who it was.


No one else's.
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As far as it goes I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch of this. They're all dead then no problems they aren't well then do whatever. Don't be so sure to jump to anti CP by the way. You'd be shocked how much people could care less that CP are doing damage to their bloodline or this world.


OOC: We're here to enjoy the game atleast most of us. If I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't play. I don't care whose in power and who isn't. So don't judge me when you don't even know me. ~Asylum
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You are wrong, Charlie Baltimore. The Dons and Consiglieres are required to come to the streets, answer to, and divulge all their family secrets to Gangsters, Thugs, and members of other families. That's the way things work in the mafia. Duh.
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Everyone has to maintain at least a single ref at all times so you cant necessarily expect 3 dead people every time...but you can generally expect at least one...
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The above has not been agreed by all the leaders and is not in place...yet.
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You know, I thought the promotion to mademan was a prestigious promotion, that was decided by your leader/mafia boss when he felt you were ready. I didn't know mademan promotions now rely on "references" rather than the boss's decision of when you're ready. I think most of this is a load of balony. I see how it protects our society MAINLY from rogues, but this just isn't traditional.


Mademen have done something in the family significant and scintillating enough to impress the boss and to deserve the boss's trust that he or she will maintain his unconditional loyalty to his or her boss.
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References are not the only condition for promotion.


If the Made Man has managed to impress the Boss, then surely they have managed to make three contacts of sufficient calibre within our World?
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I'm a bit confused by your rhetorical question.


I'm saying that the basis of promotion to mademan nowadays is having 3 friends perjure that you will not make a fool out of the family.


I'm not saying its hard to find those 3 people.
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The whole reference system is stupid and hopefully soon when we have some different CLs i place the reference rule will be abolished.
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Kriminal, I think if you bothered to do some research into the mafia that you would learn becoming Made was a decision made by more than just the Boss, but involved a sit-down with all the old men in the family. In other words, there are other important family figures giving their input besides the Boss.


Before anyone exhibits outrage, I am not actually suggesting that anyone should learn anything about the mafia.
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