There is one Godfather, a few dons, consigs and below.  There are a number of bold suits and hands walking these Streets.

It is to these people, members of this thing of ours all, that this address it made to.

People, you have responsabilities - yes, to your crew but also to our way of life.  And it is this way of life that needs preserved.  It needs protected and it needs to be allowed to grow.

Some things have to stop and have to stop now.

The Levelling of Cities

This, above all other atrocites, has to stop, effective immediately.  Those below Made have no need to be killed in their beds whilst asleep.  It is grisly target practise, nothing more, and beneath men of honour.  It has to stop and it has to stop now.  How many sons and daughers of those murdered last night will return?  A lot, but not all.  Meanwhile, the communty shrinks.

The Godfather Council

There needs to be mechanisms for making representations to the GFC.  I propose this; if 4, or more, MadeMen, or above, want a change in culture, a change in the rules, or a killing carried out, then they can request a sitdown with representatives of the GFC - the GFC's ruling is to be respected as final.

This is important.

Killing

Our way of life means that there will be shootings and deaths.  So be it.  New rulings are required.  Member whoring? Should be punishable by death.  BG shooting?  Punishable by death. But any time a MadeMan or above is killed, the community should be made aware - at his funeral on in the Streets.

Friends, we have what we hold and we are measured by what we do.  Following the revolution in October, too many people got gun happy and we see the results now.  We need prosperity and growth, and end to the levelling of cities and a measure of respect for this thing of ours.

Focus not on my name but on what I say.

You always have a lot to say in what should and shouldn't be done i'll tell you what why dont you rank up to GF and sort it out seeing as you think you have all the answers.

I don't think anybody would give him the chance Merlin. Which is some ways is understandable, but in others, really sad.

He could always go incog sammy then reveal his true identity once he made it to the top

I think he might have blown his cover already though. He could teach his son how to though, that's always a possibility.

Lol yeah i think the cat may well be out of the bag here :D

Maybe his son will have a better chance, I for one hope that this world is above bloodline hunting, though sometimes there is good reason to do so.

The Levelling of Cities

 

This, above all other atrocites, has to stop, effective immediately.  Those below Made have no need to be killed in their beds whilst asleep.  It is grisly target practise, nothing more, and beneath men of honour.  It has to stop and it has to stop now.  How many sons and daughers of those murdered last night will return?  A lot, but not all.  Meanwhile, the communty shrinks.

 

I don't know what he has done to get so much disregard but I do think he makes sense about the current state keeping people from choosing to stay in this thing. All of this has been extremely inconsiderate of the innocent. Too often they have worked hard for thier new families only to be slaughtered in thier sleep with no chance at defending themselves. For them it is the equivilamt to being struck by the Gods. They are not involved in any part of these wars beyond being part of the body count. Of course, they will tell thier descendants to stay away.

If you don't want us focusing on your name, stop making it such a recognizable name?

Satine thinks to herself .."equivilamt? Dam I hope no one caught that." She checks her breathe to see if it too show signs of the early drinking.

Wars bring casualties, not for one side but for both sides involved. This is where strategies come into play. Sadly the best time to produce an attack where your side takes less losses is when the other side is cozy asleep hugging their teddy bears. This is a strategy that has happened for as long as my bloodline can remember.

It is sad many passed, do I think it will deter the next of kin coming to our shore's by boat?

I do not believe so. This is a way of life our children love.

Here is the answer as to why people below made are killed during a war 1 they are generally used as pro shooters and 2 some of them were MADE then got demoted for bg's and carry guns of significant strength so tell me a Goomba with 80 bg's and a 200 kill gun should live? a man in that situation could cause a fair amount of damage so to be sure and keep your side as safe as you can you kill all, rightly or wrongly that is now the world we live in, want to stop that then stop demoting for bg's, even without the whole bg situation i have personally seen people at the top of the 60 second list ranked as wiseguy nearly a year old so why take that chance?

Heh, it's funny. Soon as someone sees the Kuku name these days each conversation turns in to a "You should incog then" sort of approach.

Anyway, to address the point.

I think when any leader or city these days sets out to destroy another it is always with the "Only Made and above need to die" scenario. However, when the initial first wave is over and war has well and truly begun you will find many people taking shots at what ever they can get their hands on. Or what ever their current skill level permits. This is why a fair few Wise Guys and below die. People are just trying to notch one up on their gun yes but some, if not the majority are just trying to help their team inflict as much damage as is possible to the other team. Sometimes the only way to do this is going for targets you know you can hit.

Hell, during all this... Godfather Stamina even sent out a mail informing the rest of the leading population that they can feel free to invite any of the unsponsored who are Wise Guy and below and rightly pointed out that if invited, the leader will hold responsibility for their actions.

Two points.

One, killing people below Mademan.

It needs to be done, to a certain point (please note I said a to a CERTAIN POINT, do not ignore that) also it has always been this way. Always! It happened in every journal you will every read from any hitter dating back to the times of very, very old. My bloodline was there, it happened. That is how you train and if you are not in a position to kill higher ranks you kill lower ones. Another good point to remember is that people are loyal or at least they damn well should be, no matter what rank. If you wake up at earner and you know you have a chance in hell of shooting someone from a family that has been warring your dead family, you fucking shoot. No hesitation and if you don't you are so far below the honor bar that you just pull the trigger on yourself.

Dying in war below made does not stop people from carrying on their bloodline, it's not like you took months to achieve the dizzying heights of goomba or earner, stop being naive.  You honestly think a goomba or earner is more pissed than a don or consig that's been working very hard on training and collecting money? Just stop, stop raising sons and daughters, who come out to cry about parents dying in war. Try putting that energy into being better at living. The only rule in war is be stronger and smarter than your enemy, not try to be their social worker.

Point two, you want to make rules, then make an effort. Make an effort to change things by ranking up and changing things. Begging the people in the position to change things has never and will never work. They got to where they are by their rules and they will stay there until someone removes them or they retire. Their way is working, why change? Our community gets weak when the people stop putting in effort and quit this life, because stuff isn't handed to them and they have to work to achieve.

Passing in a war is not exactly the issue. But how do YOUR OWN lower ranked family members feel? When in war do you involve them in the protection of your city at all? Or are they left out in the cold with absolutely no clue of war other than seeing bodies fall? Do you invite them into the war conversations to allow them to feel like the day they had worked for is here and now they can use their skills? I say that it is common practice for the leaders to leave these poeple completely out of the wars beyond the point of a number in the casualty count. Perhaps if the leaders allowed them in the event of war and the chance to actually defend thier family then they would not feel as tho they got nothing out of their time and money spent? Win or loose, I would like to have a chance to fight. I am not exactly speaking of how leaders treat their enemies. I am speaking of how you treat your own new poeple. Obviously the wars being here are accepted due the nature of this side of our world. But to have these poeple come in and spend their time and money as an investment into your families and then completely shut them out of the actual war is simply a waste. I am saying that this is the trend that makes new people walk away. the fact that there seems to be so many families being wiped out certainly aggravates the issue.

As we all know people can begin training their potential cannons as low as Gangster, and, most who strive to be good marksmen, do. In the time one could achieve Wise Guy(And that is taking into consideration that this individual is not Min time ranking) he could already have as many as 50 or so kills under his or her belt. Maybe even more.

While this is not the case with every single Wise guy in our community, a Godfather waging war must have the mindset that if it is possible to have that many kills at wise guy, then every single Wise Guy on the opposing side is a threat and needs to be removed.

I hate to admit it, but I agree with all of your other points besides the above. Too many people are dying and too many bloodlines are not returning, but, unfortunately, this is something that neither of us can do anything about. Congratulations to the victors, and rest in peace to the fallen.

A lot of you speak as tho most lower ranks or new people actually get to get involved in these wars. You state that it is a part of strategy and required to wipe them out. I think that is true if the common practice were that the leaders INCLUDED them in the wars. I am stating that it has been our experience that they do not. Therefore, as we are awake and watching bodies fall, left out of war conversations, asking may we get involved, being ignored and then killed...what value do we get for our time and money spent? This has not been the practice of only one family and has happened over and over. Had my mother, in any one of the times she has died, realized any adrenaline rush from being involved in the wars or ever at once thought she had any control over whether or not she wanted to fight for her own existence, she may have left me with a better impression of the worth of coming here.

A lot of you speak as tho most lower ranks or new people actually get to get involved in these wars. You state that it is a part of strategy and required to wipe them out. I think that is true if the common practice were that the leaders INCLUDED them in the wars. I am stating that it has been our experience that they do not

Reguardless of rank or experience in this thing of ours, my bloodline has always been involved in battle. You are speaking from your own experience, I am assuming, not anybody else's.

Even if this was a common practice with the leaders, to isolate yourself with the other city heads and hitters and "ignore" the rest of your crew, (and by the way, I don't think your mother was being ignored, a wartime atmosphere could be very hectic and overwhelming, perhaps your mummy's leader was only busy at the moment.) how is the enemy to know that?

They don't, all they know is that anybody sporting the opposing crew's tag can be a potential threat. And any leader in their right mind would do anything to ensure their cities safety, even if that means killing people who may not have really been a threat at all.

I agree with you as to how the enemy would see me- which is why I said I understand their point of view. If in the same position, I would do the same, of course.

I was specifically speaking about leaders involving their own new people and while I spoke of only my mother, I should have said ancestors, as it has been more than one or two or even three of them in the same experience. I made myself sound as tho I had several mothers in my lack of experience in public speaking. I also neglected to say that with me came several other people to this thing of yours, thus my reference to OUR expeeriences. I did state that this was the experience we had known from several families. I can only go by what I have seen first hand and this has been my experience. The original speaker made statements about wanting to keep new people here and I believe that the experiences of my anscestors, my freinds (about SIX of them) and of thier anscestors can attest to this being more than just an isolated instance or the practice of one poor leader.

So, whether you agree with me or not, my friends and I will be in search of a leader that puts a value on thier new people. We will be looking for someone that would also like to see a return of thier investment in us on the day a war comes- just as much as we would like to see a chance at defending what we have worked for. We will be looking for someone who puts a value on our loyalty. Then, if we do still die in war quickly, so be it. We will happily do so and our leader will have all of the respect.

I hear TylerDurden is planning his next attack on us, he could be in search of some muscle. He treats all his men right and they all get the chance to put their lives on the line and shoot only when shot at.

Plus a bodyguard is purchased for each and every one of his crew, so there's an idea.

I wish you the best with finding a crewleader to your liking.