Im sure izzy will still have the convo :)

Spacey maybe you can pay for the room too for you and BananaPudding. 

BananaPudding thank you for coming forth. We would like to hear about your hardship(s) Spacey is trying to muddy the waters and ease his conscience because I know he knows it reeks like fish up in here. 

I have to laugh that even in any case where people need to find out who you are or claim they can find you or even if there is an admin leaking stuff how fucking sad is it that you have to do it on this games says more about them. If you are feared enough to get purged legitimately then you are playing the game right!

At some point this narrative needs to stop being indulged.

Squishy has kindly and gently tried to lead you to the fact that you're certifiably insane, you're so close.

There isn't any data, there never was any data and there never will be any data.

IT IS ALL IN YOUR HEAD.

https://screening.mhanational.org/screening-tools/psychosis/?ref

This is from another user trying to enjoy the game, however, they know if they were to post this themselves they would be removed again.

I've compiled a list of some recent purges:

• Technical – Purged at 35 days for being active in the Lounge/RATs and due to past grudges. Helped Pro for PH in numerous rogue defenses.
• HandsomeRob – Purged at 20 days, partially for being active in the Lounge/RATs and partially because of past grudges. Was also very active in LA, rising to GFC RH and guiding the city through rogues as there was no true leadership to do so. Additionally, he was the reason Amira retired, as she refused to purge him when pressured to do so.
• Taupe – Purged at 53 days for main activity. Spent their entire lifetime being questioned about their identity due to past association with Marston.
• PicklePacker – Purged at 44 days for unknown reasons. Not active in the main. Spent their entire lifetime being questioned about their identity because of past association with Marston.
• Lan_Wangji – Purged at 28 days for unknown reasons.
• BobbyBoucher – Purged at 45 days, likely for main activity, though the exact reason is unknown.
• Tolster – Purged at 33 days for main activity.
• Energy – Purged at 23 days for main activity.
• JoePistone – WS caught at 75 days for refusing to verify their identity.

And let’s not forget that the entirety of Chicago was recently killed explicitly for refusing to purge or reveal identities, along with several other cities, such as Petah's LV, which also tried to resist this playstyle.

A recurring theme here is Lounge activity. If you are seen chatting and participating in RATs, you are automatically under scrutiny. The digging will begin, and if they can't verify your identity through WhatsApp or Discord, you will not be saved.

It is well past time that bloodlines remain private, and questioning them should once again be punishable by death, as in https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/951655#272446084.

It is blatantly obvious that players who don’t choose to remain incognito are being killed based on the actions of their previous characters, rather than the actions of their current character. It is also clear that anyone who is incognito will be scrutinized, interrogated, and ultimately either verified or killed based on their bloodline.

This list reflects just the past month or two. However, purging has been ongoing for well over a year now. Since funerals only stay visible for 30 days, it is challenging to investigate many deaths thoroughly. People would need to come forward and share their stories, which, as someone has already pointed out, is likely to get them another "dirt nap."

If you would like to share your story, you may do so using this anonymous form, and I will post it here to avoid endangering your current character:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mmU6DrghB-BM8yPBNcNTBkRG3owhaO4QJZP4M6asfkc/edit

However, purging has been ongoing for well over a year now.

 I don't have skin in the game but I have been playing this game for well over 2 years now and when people died then they talked about being purged and when people die now they talk about being purged. So let's not say this started in the last 1 year.

KGB

I learned something today.

Howdy! Yep, it's me again, Margaret! (Not any of the Margarets here though.)

We've had a few more victims of purg... "Rapid Unscheduled Deaths" under the current leadership known as "The Regime" come forward.  Like my last post, the stories I’m sharing come from people who don’t feel safe speaking out publicly. They’re still trying to play and enjoy the game.

• BigTonka:
  • No reason given
  • Expected reason being when asked who I was I only said returning player. When asked to fill out a SR on google doc I said no when I saw every crew from lv/la/dt share. Offered to tell my crewleader at any time the information was needed

• TheoVov:
  • Reason given: 1041
  • Expected reason: When asked my bloodline, I told them im someone who is always killed, but wanted another chance without disclosing who I am. Purged then offered 50 credits for compensation from JimmyLigambi who canceled the code.

• DiamondMouth
  • Reason given: city removal
  • Expected reason: I was open and honest with my bloodline, they made me a rhm, entire city was killed, completely harmless city. Only possible reason is my age and them refusing to kill me

• Aatrox
  • Reason given: speaking my mind to spike
  • Expected reason: bloodline public. Porkchopper

• Leidenfrost
  • Reason given: No reason given. Ketamine was too much of a coward to tell the truth.
  • Expected reason: I found out through a third party that they claim they tracked my online times and figured out who I was. Apparently only someone named bjorn plays from North America, so I had to be him.

Disclaimer:

I am just the messenger. I have no invested interest in the game at this time.

If you would like to share your story, you may do so using this anonymous form, and I will post it here to avoid endangering your current character:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mmU6DrghB-BM8yPBNcNTBkRG3owhaO4QJZP4M6asfkc/edit

Oops, forgot one... eek. 
 

• Transistor:
  • Reason given: Removal of CH
  • Expected reason: Refusal to purge me and others

(I'm sorry Transistor. You aren't being treated like the middle child, I swear.)

DrPepper, no one is claiming that Rapid Unscheduled Deaths (RUDs) began only in the past year. It is well-known that RUDs have occurred since the beginning of MR time. However, what people are pointing out is that the current frequency of RUDs has not been seen since the days of Disorder's regime a decade ago. The Administration stepped in back then for the betterment of the community as the game was bleeding users as a result.

So im trying to follow along and pull what truths I can from all sides of this as I dont really have a side of my own, and Im curious about something that seems relevant to me, but maybe Im misinterpreting. Not trying to pick a fight Squishy just genuinely curious. 

When you say…

What I do know is the ages that people die, and unlike how it was claimed, the overwhelming majority of people do not die at 30 or 60 days.  

…are you talking about the majority of everyone in the game? Or the majority of people that die.

Reason I ask, and I obviously dont have access to the same stats as you, but I know that if I go to the Obits, exclude all tricky boxes (NPCs, IAs, DDs, and Retirees) only 12 of the last 200 actual playing accounts that have died by straight up murder are older than 60 days. That does seem significant to me. 

Am I missing the point? :s

So since the data doesn't support that reasoning that people die at the 30 tier and if not at 60 tier, we can only move forward on any real discussion if we stop blaming the wrong things.

This is exactly why this thread is here. This is a real discussion. And it is being done respectfully. There is a problem with this regime which I refer to as "the squad" bleeding people and activity. 

Amazing how none of this data has been needed for previous DD's of past regimes that had been too far in power for too long.

It's just funny when you have acted very different in every other case until now.  When a regime is setting up/shooting auths within a month.  When there are constant rebuilds.  When lounge is being used to attack others, when people constantly have to hide and when the majority of players are less than 30 days.  All of these things are things in the past you would have DD'd 15+ people for.  Now, it's just 'it is what it is'.

The last regime didn't cheat or break rules though. Somebody not playing emailed unjustified abuse and it was used to remove the rest of his former friends.

Ignoring the 30/60 day debate since I am not privy to such stuff, has activity and playerbase declined in the last couple of years? That's the stat I'd be worried about if it has declined

 I will not remove people because others are unwilling to remove them themselves.

Well said Squishy and that is how you take them down the problem is like the real mafia people are selfish and wont sacrifice anything if they can benefit by kissing ass.

If another city's GF asks for someone to be killed for past things or a purge and they are made or even a hand the correct response is war but too many want loyalty and then kill people for an easy life and then wonder why they get killed for not being in the inner circle later on.