Aww. Did the nasty people shout at you because you thought it was an easy score to get in the streets and have a pop. Massive sad face. You can be part of Alistair gang though. He likes stuff like that. He's also trying to ween himself off being a troll.

Fighter for justice!

And yes. I know I'm Thug and you're Capo. But what can I do? Wait till I rank then move this speech back up?

Lulz, please just move on. I don't know who you're the child of or who you're pretending to stand up for but you're just making all parties involved, including the deceased, look bad. I'll tell you what you can do, you can learn from this. Admittedly I would've liked a little more patience from my superiors, but I'm in no position to question those kinds of orders. What I'd ask you to learn from this is to be a little more patient, and understand the importance of bringing something to a leader before taking it public. Many deaths have been avoided by simple the courtesy of helping a leader save face. It can be humiliating for a leader's private matters to be taken public before they have time to fully address the situation.

As for you ItGirl, I'm not looking to scare people away from the streets. I'm encouraging people to go to the streets, but the way you approached this was wrong. I've learned the hard way that in most situations you need to show respect throughout the conversation and try to help the other party save face. No one wants to be embarrassed or publicly attacked except for shit stirrers and attention whores. It really does help your family if you aren't out making enemies in the streets.

Should you had said something that made atleast a bit of since and relevance, people would not have complained, ItGirl.

The streets aren't for everyone, if you prefer the business district, then by all means, go back to the business district. I am sick and tired of hearing the 'you guys are mean that's why I don't interact in the streets' card. Its bullshit, ok?

Rest in peace to all of the fallen.

Yes Z.  Rest in peace to all the fallen.  Especially those that were of no threat to anyone yet still ended up dying anyway.

It was unfortunate that those who weren't a real threat died Pepe, but they should've known to put the crew tag on their suit. RIP Klasky you forgetful bastard. As for the rest who died in the takedown, they were all made and above, which means they are a threat in most cases.

I have moved on. I don't need to learn anything about looking for reasons to get others onside to eliminate threats. DeadlySin only needs rid of Jono now to guarantee Godfather. Well played it was. I had my say on the takedown before. What I have referred to after goes well beyond this or the last member of my family to walk these streets. See Alistairs quote for more info.

I will be leaving soon. Cricket season begins in jolly ol England again soon and I am required there. In the meantime I'm using the lovely laws of the land, like others before me, to shout and scream with no comeback on my person. Sorry.

WhereWasI sighs,

There are things you don't need to know that guarantee DeadlySin wouldn't move on Poisonous "Jono" Jelly. Have fun in your retirement whomever you are, but please pick up your common courtesies when you return.

WhereWasI, your bloodline has been here long enough to know different.  You can guarantee DS wouldn't move on PJ?  Not sure whether what you say is bold or naive.

Pepe. No one in this life can guarantee anything. WhereWasI's comments are based on his beliefs, I share those beliefs.

I'd happily make a 20 Credit wager that DeadlySin won't move on Jono if I had some form of verification of who you are and that you would hold up your end of the bargain.

I would happily have bet you that the core element of people who'd stabilised Las Vegas would not have moved against each other but then I wouldn't say you're there anymore.

So rather than accept the challenge of the bet, you chose to twist the comment and attack from another angle?

I'd happily make a 5 million credit wager with you that I won't ever move on Poisonous Jelly. Just saying.

I have no intention of verifying who I am, therefore I have no intention of taking such a ridiculous bet on.

Well than you've proven you don't even value your own words or beliefs on the situation. My bet wasn't ridiculous and you didn't have the backbone to even take that seriously. I'll ask you again, please just move on.

It's always polite to ask.  Just hope you can live with disappointment.

RIP to the members of Romeo.

Congratulations to those that calculated the takedown(s).  I have no sides, I hate you all :P

(OOC: Now that's how you get easy thread points!)

Jordan listened to the debate on the street and picked up the bottle of hooch tossed away earlier by ItGirl. With a smile the gorgeous Don approached WhereWasI.

Good day, Sir. Let me see if I heard right. You called out my member for being blunt with her opinion of others, but during this debate you’ve told people to just move on, as if their opinions didn’t matter. I’m amused by this. This type of pot calling the kettle black scenario is why like ItGirl I don’t participle in many debates. To further correct her slurred speech or mispronounced words was unnecessary, if you are indeed not trying to scare people away from the streets.

Jordan took a drink of the hooch and hated the taste of it.

This stuff is awful! Do you have anything good in your flask?   

Spider strolled down the street, an open umbrella canopied above her head. The shade protected her fair skin from the sun. Her mother always told her a tanned women was a dirty woman. As she came to a puddle she stopped as if in fear of crossing it. No, fear had no place in Spider's mind. She was waiting and wait she did until the boy that was trailing behind her dropped his coat into the puddle and she was able to continue walking without getting her shoes wet. Finally, she was at her destination. Spider waved the boy back to the car, which was only five feet behind them.

It's not uncommon for myself and my partners in crime to discuss the happenings of the streets. We never really directly involve ourselves there as, well, we come from the bloodlines of families who have been on these shores for quite some time and why should we belittle ourselves to such a dirty level. Heaven forbid I have to waste my time by coming out here and reminding someone they are a troll.

Spider sighs dramatically.

But, today is a different day and this street corner where Don DeadlySin took precious time from his busy day came out to all of us to share what happened in one specific city. Something he did not have to do. Something that I always enjoy hearing as I am a curious little kitty.

Unfortunately the speech quickly became a large pile of pissing and moaning. This dribble didn't just come from the children of the fallen, but from the ones that replied to them as well.

Spider took upon a mimicking tone

"You killed my father!" "DE LOGZ will prove that you are wrong!!!" "Please, just move on, but I'm not moving on though, listen to me! I am right."

She cleared her throat and continued.

At this point, I have nothing to continue for and I'd rather just throw in the towel and go back to my lofty apartment, full of fine furnishings and other nice things fighters for justice poses.

Spider rolls her eyes.

Something, though, something posses me to continue. So, lets start the picking on and trolling shall we.

WhereWasI...who are you??? ItGirl comes out to the discussion, throws her two cents in and you dissect her accent? Then you try to tell her she's come here with a rude manner...when all you've said was targeting the children of the dead and how they should move on. Yes, you've said bits and peaces of how Romeo was a great man who deserved respect, but every time I've had to see you open your mouth and listen the dribble that came out of the hollow hole were put downs to those who lost their fathers and mothers. Rude. Rude. If anyone is rude it's you.

It's obvious you do not agree as you stated yourself that what she has said is disrespectful in your eyes. Is it an eye for an eye then. If she's rude then you can be too? You've helped drag this speech into a mess and you can't even put in the effort of saying more then one sentence. To me, that is a disgrace to these streets. The reason why I do not spend much time on them any more. 75% of the time I watch brats like you get on their high horse and ride around like king douche, pretending they are saying something productive.

Moving on.

Lulz said this.

Aww. Did the nasty people shout at you because you thought it was an easy score to get in the streets and have a pop.

If there is anyone who agrees with this and then comes to the streets with a one or two quick sentence they shot off out of their ass, well damn, you're a hypocrite. Another speech I stumbled across was one Nicola had delivered. And delivered it was, it was very enjoyable to listen to and one that could quickly come into a debate. Unfortunately everyone wanted to stick around DeadlySin's announcement and slander anyone who spoke.

If you come out into the street blowing air out of your ass that's an easy post, an easy way to get your name in the streets. Easy way to get the reputation that you are "active" in the streets.

Oh look, we've come back to WhereWasI. A perfect example of fluffy replies. And with the highly mysteriousness that the public knows this information the man named WhereWasI has a whopping number of 79 times of presence in the streets. Now, why do I have a feeling he's never said much of anything.

Now, now, public, don't get your panties in a bunch. I can see that both DeadlySin and Fozzie have joined in the last bit of the speech with single entries, but they haven't been here the whole time putting people down, telling them to stop crying and to move on eight times to many.

Spider snapped her fingers once the driver of the vehicle she had come in stepped out, quickly approached her and relieved her from the weight of the umbrella. He held the umbrella for her now as she had a few things left to say before continuing on with her very relaxing day. But, before she could continue she had to address those who looked at her strangely.

What were you expecting with experienced members? With that experience comes money. Old money.

She raised her hand.

Oh, don't make me waste my breath and just let me continue.

Though it non of my business but I'd hate to come out here and not even touch on the true subject of this speech. The actions Las Vegas took today were actions Las Vegas felt they needed to take. We can all sit out here in these streets that were once gold and have now crumbled away and talk up and down the walls about how this and this and that should have been done instead. But when a city wide decision is made it's usually not made just to please certain individuals but to extend the longevity of the city. If I were to wear a hat it'd be tipped to those who want Las Vegas to grow and work themselves to death to make it happen.

Spider turned around, walked to the car and drove away in the setting sun.