So, Americans and non-Americans-invested-in-American-Politics, do you think Trump was partying with Epstein girls? Did he get jealous of Jeffy stealing his ladies from Mar-a-Lago? 

Personally, I think he partied with Epstein a lot probably through the early 2000's... I don't think he went to the island, but I'm guessing he witnessed some things he shouldn't have and was aware of other things with other people in the circle and so on... As for whether he partook, I'd say probably not, but he did have that whole dressing room thing at Miss Teen USA so... it's possible.

He seems extra ornery over the topic, which makes him seem guilty in some facet. 

I mean, with pictures that have surfaced of him surrounded by teens on a plane and him sitting with Epstein with his hand on a teen's thigh, then you have the recent emails with 'bubba'.  I would say most likely he did SOMETHING because one of the emails said he "knew about the girls".  Another email says "he's the dog that DIDN'T bark, plus the "secrets secrets" poem.  IF that is all true, then I'd say definitely yes.  Why else would he redact his name a million times in just a few files that we've seen?

It is horrible that these poor girls had to go through this with these men and hope one day they will get all of them

I don't know that he was smart enough to not be seen on Epstein's island, probably is my guess. I am more inclined that Trump knew him well and likely viewed him as competition after some time. Taking his girls from Mar-a-lago was crossing a line and broke up their friendship. At any rate, I have always believed the girls. It's sick and sad what they went through. I hope that every single person who harmed them is held accountable and locked up. 

Just release the lists already. I can't get my head around, why it is such a problem releasing them.

Taking his "girls" not woman.  It's so obvious that they are all pedos.

It's horrible and disgusting what happened to those girls, i believe Trump, Epstein and every person visited the island were complicit somehow in all of this, yet they won't release the list cause some certain group is holding the American government by the neck, they're scared of them.

I hope that everyone is not falling for the distraction bait. The DOJ, which does not fart without Trump's permission, even though it is SUPPOSED to be an independent agency, defied a court order and refused to release all files by the deadline. So far, as they slowly release files with a trickle, using Trump's "delay delay delay" tactic, we've seen ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY full pages redacted. Do Republicans usually redact 120 pages of a so-called "Democratic hoax"?

Wake the fuck up, people. Why are we protecting child sex traffickers? Ask yourself that fucking question 100 times over in your head if it all still seems ok to you. Once you clear through the fog, realize what we have running the country, and the deluge of sycophants in government who are supposed to serve as a check on the executive branch, who are too spineless to do their job. The real Americans in the Republican party who tried to hold their criminal and pedophile peers accountable got ran out of town, and labeled "RINOs".

This is not a fucking reality show. There are real consequences, and if you are too stupid to see it, stop voting, shut the fuck up, and learn something. Anything, would be a good start.

I have so many questions too. Everyone knows it was the Trump Justice Department that charged Epstein in 2019. 

Why didn't the Biden Administration pursue the release of the files after Epstein was found dead? Did he commit suicide? Maybe because they knew Epstein was deeply associated with many well known democrat figures like Bill Clinton, Hakeem Jeffries? 

Wouldn't it have been to their advantage to release the files when Trump announced he was running again for President in 2024? Or did they surrender to losing another hoax?

Could it be all this noise is a way to distract, deflect and confuse?   

Why hasn't human trafficking been the #1 topic across the media? This heinous activity has existed for decades. Sexual exploitation accompanied with forced labor is very common in the United States.    

There is no known connection between Jeffries and Epstein, only accusations without proof that he solicited campaign contributions in 2013.  Jeffries has denied it, and even if he did solicit campaign contributions, that's a far fucking cry from raping a child. This is deflection personified and shows how sick and twisted some people are, including yourself, since you decided to jump on the propaganda train.

By spewing lies and propaganda, you are making this political. Stop making this political.  Raping children is not political. Check yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what is really important to you? We should all be seeking the truth rather than spewing bullshit in the hope that it will make "our side" look like it has cleaner hands.

First off your mind is warped if you think I do not condemn the actions of Epstein. Or could it be you're bias because I am well known to be a conservative? Interesting you want the truth but my questions are not valid in your mind. 

Secondly, I made it no more political than you did in your previous comments. 

Spewing political propaganda is making it political. Just like "water is wet". You are delusional.

My comments were facts.  See the difference? No? Get help.

I want to know why the Democrats sat on it for four years with barely a peep when they had complete control of Washington. That is not propaganda.

The victims deserve the answer.

There is nothing wrong with that question, other than the obvious and transparently political deflection from what is going on in 2025 and 2026, and the posturing you are doing by suddenly pretending that concern for the victims is your motivating factor, but there are a couple things you should take into consideration: 

- The case was still being investigated at the time and there was no court order to release anything.

- Like every other administration besides the present one, the DoJ operated as an independent agency, as it is meant to, and was not beholden to the President or "the Democrats".

You cannot pretend to be objective when your question is "why didn't they" as opposed to "why aren't they?". Take your fingers out of your ears and listen - a court order is currently being violated to protect culpable parties. Go back to my original post and do as I suggested - repeat that question in your head 100 times until you pull your head out of your ass (was that what I said? I don't remember). Your perception of government is not based on a solid understanding of how it works. That's fine, because it's not something that is taught adequately in our schools, which is pathetic. I forgive ignorance in everyone for that reason. That being said, you are not being genuine. You're being full of shit, which I will NOT excuse. You have shown only that you are concerned about deflecting culpability and protecting those CURRENTLY in power. That is not genuine concern for the victims.

Your straw man attacks and accusations of bias are pathetic, as well. Let's have a big-person conversation and not a snowflake conversation where you let your victim complex all hang out. You are not being discriminated against for being a conservative. First of all, you're not a conservative. I know you think you are, but that word has an actual definition and you do not fit it. George Will is a conservative. Bill Kristol is a conservative. Even Irving Kristol was a conservative, albeit a very far-right conservative.  Hold on to your hat, this one will shock you - I am a conservative-leaning independent. Almost none of the clowns currently in Congress or the White House who claim to be conservatives are actual conservatives. Don't you understand why Reagan's movement was named "neo-conservative"? Simple - the word "conservative" no longer fit due to his administration's fiscal irresponsibility. It is possible to hold objective and honest viewpoints that do not benefit your political allies, so long as you don't join a cult where you are required to say, think, and feel a certain way or else face expulsion.

I do not hold out any hope that you are currently capable of objectivity and honesty. When I told you to "get help", I did not mean it as a put down. There are obvious problems going on and you are not responsible for having them, but you are responsible for having it treated. I am confident that there is a wonderful person in there somewhere and I hope you can find her again.

That question still stands. Maxwell was convicted in 2022. I don't know the exact number of victims there were but I think I heard sometime ago there was close to a thousand. You do know that because many of the victims were under the age of 18 their names must be kept confidential? Maybe you don't. And those over the age of 18 have every right to keep their names confidential. Now the last I heard redaction of these names is time consuming. Yet you are saying the delay is to protect culpable parties. I'm old enough to know what goes in the wash always comes out. 

You can be as insulting as you wish. You can have your opinion and view points. That is the beauty of the First Amendment. You have me wrong. 

And since you brought politics back up with your opinion why a court order is broken, I would bank on it had Harris won the election we would not be having this discussion. The Epstein files would still be sealed. 

Happy New Year! 

Speculation is your last remaining refuge. Speculation is not factually based, especially when it is based on nothing but wishful thinking. It's the opposite of objectivity. I realize I am talking to a wall right now, so have a Happy New Year.

Only one with a closed mind, a know it all attitude would feel like they are talking to a wall. You just came out here and stated why the court order is broken. That sounds like speculation.

It does, doesn't it? But it isn't when the evidence is overwhelming. That would be the same as saying a unanimous jury verdict is speculation, like the one against Donald Trump when he was adjudicated liable for the sexual assault of E. Jean Carroll. It stops being speculation when there is a foundation based on evidence and the conclusion is "more likely than not". In any event, the reason certainly is not because there are 120 pages of redacted names, just in the limited amount of files which have already been released. Get serious. That's a stupid comment and I will call it out as such. Also, none of the victims are still currently under the age of 18, so you don't even know the facts of the case. You have not even reviewed the photos from the Epstein estate and the evidence that has thus far been released. No, you haven't. It's obvious. Nevertheless, you were super quick to jump to the defense of anyone currently in power. That's fucking sickening. What was Steve Bannon doing on the island long before he was a name on the political scene and then, later, pulled out of nowhere to be Trump's chief advisor during his first term?

The evidence that individuals are being protected is overwhelming - almost incontrovertible. It's not the same as pulling something out of your ass with no evidence. You are showing your true motivation and it is sickening. This is not political.

There you go speculating again. I thought you were done? Alright, I'll be the adult in the room and close out with "We will agree to disagree."