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| Trump and Epstein | Started by: SnuggleSpikeS on Nov 25, '25 22:33 |
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If you are ok with it, I will continue being a juvenille. Was Donald Trump adjudicated liable for sexual assault by a unanimous jury, or is that speculation? |
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| Reply by: RebusDupeoUlricMusic at Jan 07, '26 20:06 | |
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I try to slow these conversations down a bit—because once Epstein’s name comes up, nuance usually disappears. There’s no dispute that Trump and Epstein ran in some of the same elite circles in the ’90s and early 2000s. In cities like New York, Palm Beach, and even Chicago, wealthy social worlds overlap whether you like it or not. Proximity is real. But proximity isn’t proof. As of now, there’s no verified evidence putting Trump on the island, and flight logs and accuser statements matter more to me than vibes or body language analysis. That said, Trump doesn’t get a moral pass. His own words and behavior over the years—especially the Miss Teen USA dressing room comments—are enough to justify criticism without stretching the facts. You don’t have to invent crimes to argue that he’s shown poor judgment and questionable boundaries with women. That critique stands on its own. Where I’m more skeptical is the idea that being “ornery” or defensive equals guilt. Anyone who’s watched how media narratives work—especially if you grew up watching powerful Certain men get labeled guilty before evidence—knows that association alone can become a life sentence in public opinion. Epstein is radioactive. Anyone tied to him, fairly or not, is going to react aggressively, especially in a hyper-polarized political climate. To me, the bigger issue isn’t whether Trump secretly did X or Y. It’s that Epstein had access to way too many powerful people across parties, industries, and countries for way too long, and very few institutions stepped in until it was impossible to ignore. That speaks to elite protection, not just individual wrongdoing. I’m comfortable criticizing Trump where the record supports it, and I’m just as comfortable saying speculation shouldn’t replace evidence. Both things can be true at the same time. |
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| Reply by: OldGuard at Jan 11, '26 07:59 | |
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If there was any evidence that Trump abused girls in the Epstein files, it would have been "leaked" by the Biden admin as soon as they found it. Depending on the strength of the evidence they would have followed it with a prosecution. They tried to throw everything in the book at him, they wouldn't have left that easy one out. |
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| Reply by: Hicksbuilt at Jan 15, '26 15:07 | |
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I don't like trump and never will, I don't trust him or what he is doing to the American people right now so if there is evidence out there let it be known. |
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| Reply by: AriaRomani at Feb 02, '26 08:39 | |
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