I think it's funny that Bathsheba was in the process of wanting to kill Spicoli when we was Don, and not for the reasons that she was looking to do it for. Of course she wanted to shoot Spicoli before he reached Godfather, because she didn't have the skill to murder him when he took that position. I'm not buying the excuse of 'it was for the lolz'.

Funny to you, sure? But let's not pretend she was actually talented enough to take the shot later than she did. She is what I like to call... a shitter, because she sure as fuck wasn't a hitter.

Otherwise than that, I applaud the conversation happening here and the fact we can continue this discuss for as long as we have is impressive. 

And why did I bring up this topic of discussion this long after? Because it's proof of restraint and self control. Trying to be better AND being better at the same time.  Letting the population of the country PROVE that they deserved the chance they weren't given in the past because of hot headed youth assholes who didn't know when to holster their gun. They got humbled in an embarrassing way. In the end, they only had each other and that might be the way they wanted to go out... They took pride in being hated by the majority instead of building relationships with their OWN family. They refused to let anyone live over 100 days, much less 30. They shied away from competition because if the war proven anything - they crumble when REAL competition shows up and pushes their shit in. 

Simple fact, they wanted to shoot fish in a barrel because sharks has knocked them off their throne whenever the fuck we want. If they take power again, and purge this country into nonexistence and desolation.

Then guess what? We'll push their shit in again. It's like clockwork and it's not even that hard to accomplish. Pretty easy when you make more enemies than friends wanting to act like tough guys, when you're honestly not shit to begin with. 

And LadyFighter? Well, her great grandmother was shot for lying about who they were. At that point all trust was out the window for her. You can claim purge and twist the narrative however you like. Second time, I'm not sure. I was asked to shoot her and did. I'll own it. I was a hand at the time and took the orders instead of delivering them. No sleep was lost that night shooting a 'bad bitch'. 

If I had it my way, I'd kill Barella right now because his ancestors are douchebags. But I won't because I have restraint and I respect the way this thing of ours should be. Unlike the former regime, we are better than you. Plain and simple. You lose sleep over that. I don't. My son will replace me and kick ass again if he has to. For the betterment of this country. Otherwise, he will ride off into the sunset leaving this place healthier than the former regime every left it.

Recognize bait when you see it. Bathsheba was a pawn.

Stepping out from the fabulous Motor City Casino he stretched a little bit and popped his back as the group of them stood outside of the casino doors waiting for their ride. As the ride pulled up and Barella waited to get inside the limo and he made a quick statement as he stepped in

My ancestors did their job the best they could and tried to make it a great experience for all who worked with them and most people will never understand some of the decisions you make in our business...I mean the streets are paved with blood and tough decisions.

Did they send innocent people to their death on a boat filled with diesel with a beautiful whisper and a sunset? Yes but they really tried not too lol and got really mad :D 

Did they give new blood chances that would never be given? Yes its not easy around here to get a chance with such limited numbers and experience and not an easy sell sometimes.

Did they give second chances against the recommendations of everyone to people who ended up helping kill them in the end? Yes and damn it hurt deep... but here we are working together and just like SI said in some speech about just doing your job and no back ally loyalty and I am out here doing it. 

I have much respect for my fiends and business partners who I worked with the last two years and many great memories. I hope I can have the same experiences in the future somehow as you do not really experience fun in this world alone. 

It is weird when you have been here as long as some of us as at one point you end up working with everyone and unless you want a half experience you gotta give things your all everytime as you never know where it will end. 

I have been above Made Man twice and innocently killed once since things changed. I am currently a wealthy businessman working my way up in this world. I have no idea who is plotting, where or when and when the first freeze of the year will be. 

and you know what...everyday that I walk out from the casino with my balls hanging so low they hit the ground because of the riches in my pockets I look around and wait to get murdered because of my past Godfather Drieza.

'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs
Some buck that I roughed up way back
Comin' back after all these years
Rat-a-tat, tat, tat, tat, that's the way it is

but I keep my head low and my boss happy with fine hookers and cocaine so he hasn't shot me yet 

I mean… Spicoli’s line had a history of getting shot 4 seconds after getting godfather… There was no other reason for Bath to go off that night, other than to fuck with him. She would have had some time to build for other shots. She was not far from being a GFC killer, but that shot on Spicoli would’ve been definitely worth the laugh, and it would’ve fucked the new Chicago which was just getting set up (I remind you; she shot its other CL also).

As for talent, between hustle and other stuff, there isn’t that much talent required these days… To my knowledge, Bath didn’t put in hustle until well later into her account, so overall, not bad as a builder particularly, not great either. Not worth the dick measuring contest though. She hit her secondary target. When the Axe is hanging over your head, it’s not necessarily the best motivator.

I don’t really see restraint and self-control by coming out here a month later. I see picking at your own scab. It feels good though. I can attest. Picking at that itch. I receive complaints from all around due to LACK OF ENGAGEMENT by leaders in this era. I see far worse activity levels from uppers across the cities. I see rebuild kick off far more than any time in the last two years… Perhaps you are trying Mr. Drieza, but others are not. They’re satisfied in their castles, and barely coming on to maintain them.

Yes, there is a cost to maintaining power, and we have already seen with the death of TomJoad and the like that there will be more blood of your allies that you will spill for one reason or another. HOW COULD YOU GUYS KILL AETHER AND PROFESSOR? Were they involved in TomJoad’s big plot to shoot Skorp? I doubt it… But why did Revan suicide? I really wanna know that. Anyway, the world advances to a point where you will be in a smaller sphere. For now, people can’t be asked to bother.

LF didn’t lie about her bloodline. They knew who she was. Maybe the CL wasn’t open about it, but they 100% knew… Her ancestry had authed their ancestry etc. But you say you shot a bad bitch, that’s bloodlinin’ bruv or a purge ‘partner. Don’t see how you can in one sentence say that it’s not one, and then reference Cadhla in the next sentence.

The fuck did Barella (Barilla? Pasta? What?) ever do? I think they just trade stuff. That was a heavy hit govna.

I guess I might as well go into it. Bath had her own personal reasons against Spicoli. His line had worked with us for years and years, but in short, his ancestors had gotten her line (and other allies) killed with him over the years repeatedly by talking/plotting out of turn to Kaya, to Lust, Scarlett, Bianca etc, working on his own little separate plotting missions that were failures. Several of his allies did not want to continue working with him at several points. JTG and I had tried to soothe the nerves or some people for quite a while, but the straw broke when he was involved in a dumb plot that could jeopardize everyone, again in the late summer two years ago. At the same time, he was leaking those other people he was plotting with that time, and they turned their back on him… Which is how he ended up in a basket down a river to get picked up by yousall. People had given up on him because he wasn’t working with them. He was doing his own shit and he was too comfortable talking about ideas of his or plans to people he shouldn’t have been trying to talk to (while working with his other allies), unapologetic when it got his friends and allies killed. 

As for why his great great whatever poppy died as a 4 second godfather, it was because 1. He had gone quiet to the person who had authed him. 2. He was taking in enemies, and not even saying anything about it. 3. A promise had been made to an ally that since they had consented to someone dying, Slade should die too. 4. His being authed had already annoyed enough people. 5. He wasn’t trusted by any of the other cities, i.e. his old allies, because of all that history I briefly went over… 6. His extended/personal allies weren’t trusted. 

Allies get killed for association, as we know. Youses shot up a bunch of Bath's allies when she went off... But for the sake of history from only a few years ago, ask Lilith about when he let CL Goodfellas’, Bath’s line, and co. get shot out of his own district with not a single cunt hair of an implication of them being involved, just that Slade/Spicoli’s line was an ally at the time… talking to Kaya like a dummy about killing Asher and the like. Lilith didn’t speak to my line about what happened or at all after it happened (and I was his member), and still expected it to sit still in an IA crew, always potentially on the choppin' block. My line shot Lilith for that proudly. Do you see how it’s all connected?

Nothing idiotic about a little revenge, and a laugh. And shooting Raga still gave a good laugh... It’s not shooting fish in a barrel. It’s strategy. Kill a RH. Kill a mobile gun. Kill one who will get pissed. It’s funny. The bigger laugh is he finally spoke in the streets for the first time since August. Lazy IA hand he is. I take credit for that.

The last regime had plenty of restraint. It wouldn’t have died if it didn’t. I hope you leave things better, but the truth is, when you’re in power long enough, you always become the villain and it’s a farce to think otherwise. Unless, you want to praise Peaceful RobOakfart for a barely two month reign that ended in a popcorn fart with a bit of unwelcome seepage, like Cin would.

But I think maybe it’s time for some of you'sall to apologize.

I see Spike that you want to drag me back into this conversation so badly. I understand being upset that you were not the chosen good example, but I mean why would you be? I hope one day you get over the fact that RobOakheart made the decent Crewleader list while you never could. 

Bless your heart. 

The late Bathsheba was not the first nor the last to go guns a blazing. Old school does not disrespect the dead. This is a sure tell sign this will not die for years to come as the other countless other ordeals around here. But there may come a day when Bathsheba's kin is in position to save anyone of your lives. 

Let it die. And put more energy into bringing active crews to the floor. 

Were The Plumbers involved?  I heard there was a hidden hand, and Spike and Kuku worked together in the past