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| Today;s Takedown | Started by: Alessia on Jul 19, '08 13:00 |
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Before any calls of bias or otherwise are directed in my direction I shall hereby state for the record, I knew not of, nor ever did have any association with the fallen. Call me a cynic but....... .......did anyone actually speak to him? seriously? Did they? Alessia, our bloodlines go back a fair while, I therefore urge you to tell me what was asked of this 'rogue' that hadn't beens asked of him for the previous 6/7 days? I'm absolutely sickened by the deeds that have been carried out this day. You mention the CL's couldn't get together because of different itinerary's? I can understand that. However, we live in the 30's! We have a perfectly good telegram service and for those of us more old school 'the sleepers'. Why on earth didn't you just communicate? ahhhhhhhhhhh, of course, its the weekend and boys must be boys. Bunch of hairy bears balls if you ask me. RIP Ace, never knew you, your history or how you came to be a leader. You led a family that was loyal to you, and if I never learn another thing about you, that will be enough. Thats my tuppence anyway. |
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| Reply by: Oompa_Loompa at Jul 19, '08 21:12 | |
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"Fact is you all knew he couldn't have done jack and shit to you as leaders... his gun sucked ass" He set up so he could shoot at Mr_Corleone. Why would that be if his gun sucked ass Dominick? "but that also meant he had at least room for 27 or more." Or room for 2 more if he didn't have the money for a HQ upgrade. "So yeah, the strategy to "weaken" him, can't really use that here as an argument. Something your mother or father should have told you, but obviously not..." The shots were agreed before hand. All those that died around 12:15-16 were chosen as people who needed to be hit. As I have said, had Ace been missed it would have made it far harder for him to gain 4 hours protection without any of his members. "I'd tell you my conclusion of you and some others here, but I don't think my dear Iris would like that very much. So, have a nice day, all of you." Oh, please do. I'd really love to hear it. Nore: I probably missed some points I would have liked to respond to but it is early. If you think I have ignored anything I shouldn't have, please get to me. |
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| Reply by: Bloody at Jul 20, '08 05:04 | |
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"He set up so he could shoot at Mr_Corleone. Why would that be if his gun sucked ass Dominick?" And exactly how many times did he miss him? And that was a Consigliere "Captain" at first, and then a CL. With Thugs and Gangsters as members, not quite the HQ size or amount of members like the leaders have at the moment, and the fact that they all have/had Captains to boost their own defense. So... where's the "threat" to the leaders? "Or room for 2 more if he didn't have the money for a HQ upgrade." So instead of concentrating on a new auth and if necessary tell him to step down, you kill 23 (or less) people because of your own promise that you made when he was a "rogue" and then after Mr. Corleone died. And I'm saying "your", because you seem to speak for your CL, even though some of my questions were directed towards her and not you. "All those that died around 12:15-16 were chosen as people who needed to be hit. As I have said, had Ace been missed it would have made it far harder for him to gain 4 hours protection without any of his members." "Needed" because of what necessity? He lost two members and then he died, so again... why continue shooting, who were his Gangsters going to prowack if he's already dead? They "needed to be hit" because you "needed to get a kill or two". Now that would have been a more honest answer. And I'm sure you'd love to hear my conclusion, but why bother, when I know why you want to hear it. |
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| Reply by: Dominick_Scalese at Jul 20, '08 06:40 | |
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They needed to be hit and you know it. You know how a takedown works and you know all targets are assigned before the first wave. The wave came and the leader shot was taken early. That is why they all died within a minute. Had that leader shot missed then we could still be going through the motions now. No-one knew, when taking their shot, if Ace was dead or not. How could they? most were in different cities. I have never claimed to speak for Alessia. That is not how I wish to come across as she is more than capable herself. I was merely replying to what you had said earlier. Freedom of speech etc etc. Hence why I cannot comment as too why Ace was not allowed to set up permanently but I do believe your leader has given you reasons why. The reason I want to hear your conclusion is because I want to hear your actual thoughts instead of you just hinting at them. |
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| Reply by: Bloody at Jul 20, '08 07:14 | |
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It might had been planned well, poorly executed though. I agree... the CL shot was taken too soon and should have waited, especially if the shooter wasn't sure of the shot. But the obituary also speaks for itself dear friend, the ones to die were not only at :15-:16. Anyways, I'm not hinting at anything, I've said and asked plenty already, if Miss. Alessia wishes to answer the questions like she said she would if there were any, I'll listen, but not much more than that. Enjoy the beautiful morning, Bloody. |
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| Reply by: Dominick_Scalese at Jul 20, '08 07:34 | |
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| Dominick - I believe all of your questions have been answered with the same answers I would have given This kind of back and forth goes on with every takedown with good points on both sides. Your own leader has spoken, I have spoken and many others. At what point do we stop? As far as the dead members after his death - that was explained by Bloody, all were set to be shot at the same time, apparently my trigger finger was quicker then other hitters, all happened within seconds of his death. We did not do any further "waves" which I would think would prove to you we were not out for needless deaths. | |
| Reply by: Alessia at Jul 20, '08 09:05 | |
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