Was he though Marcano or was it that the people who authorized him initially were trusted enough? You seem to forget that the majority of Jeff's age was under other people, he was given a district with a completely separate group that ran that city, he was simply part of the city at that time. This all changes when the prior people are dead.

Your logic is flawed when you believe that a complete change of scenery in Chicago does not come with a need to ensure that you are still trusted the same way you were with the prior landscape. It seems people have a belief that sitting around and praying you are still fine is the way to do things around here and its not.

Once Jeff became the sole leader of Chicago he should have been making connections with everyone, do I know who he spoke out to or how he did things? Absolutely not as I am not Chicago, but given he is dead I would imagine the connections were either not built enough to stay alive or he did not build them at all.

I do enjoy a good explanation that is right to the point. Thank you Simon for that. 

Marcano, let's take your argument in good faith. Let's say Lebowski was trusted, does that automatically mean all those under him should be as well? In a time where we have seen rogues leave their families. Do you really think that just because one man was trusted that each person should be also trusted just because they reside in Chicago with him? 

I find that a bit of a stretch. 

SeamusDeLion do you want to be my associate, I want to kill Simon too

I don't usually post on announcements like this. Anyone with a word to the opposition is immediately regarded as salt, and decent argument is dismissed with "I won't listen to a fresh faced puke"

Chicago was more worried about creating a cohesive unit out of the patchwork provided to us through your own malarkey. Many of us didn't know or trust eachother, so we spent most of our time trying to correct that within our own walls. And slowly a lot of the more guarded personalities were starting to return to a regular life on these shores. We were working on rebuild coverage, creating competitions to share with America, and again actually trying to get to know eachother. Not everybody is hellbent on revenge, or absolutely obsesssed with you Simon. We just wanted away from your despondent ilk and whatever is happening on the East Coast.

But go ahead and pat yourself on the back one more time. I'm sure you're not tired of it yet.

After reading Mr. Simon's condolences to the actions that have taken place and peering through a few of the responses, I, The Great Enricho, approve of how this situation was handled. Uppers talked amongst themselves. A reasonable assessment was made and an execution was ordered. This is Mafia.

As a man of connections, I understand the reasonings behind this decision. Did I personally know a few and talk to a few from Chicago? Yes. However, I only knew and talked to a fraction of them. I am not an upper, I get no voice in the matter and that's the way it should be. Maybe if I were to have had a voice, a few feelings could have been spared, but from the past wars? This was nothing of that nature. This wasn't some feuled vendetta, this was for the perceived protection of these fine lands and families. "Perceived," is the most important word there. Perception is everything, my friends.

I, The Great Enricho, fully support DetroitSimon in this action. My loyalty to Mr. Simon may make some question my logic and processing, but make no mistake, The Great Enricho would rather be slain than follow the mad.

Enjoy yourselves, friends.

The real ones are dead long live the cowards at least for now sleep easy see you soon.

I  thought that everyone knew that Simon was a cunt? Is that not the general consensus? I've know his family for years, and he hails from a long line of counts. In fact, I have a list of contacts, maybe you have one too, mine is a dark pink colour and it is called 'Cunts' and there's a lot of people on that list. But here's the thing, round my way, calling someone a cunt isn't the worst, and like it or not, Simon is a bit of a likable cunt, don't get me wrong, having the city of Detroit permanently welded to his name sucks, like sucks a bag of dicks sucks, but what you gonna do? Its not like you can go down to cityhall and change your name. Personally I'm waiting for Reggie to man up and shoot him, just to reclaim the great name of Deroit from the walking Swan fornicator that is Simon, but that appears unlikely to happen this side of Labour day.

Having said all that, what Simon has said, like it or not, is essentially true, Chicago was quieter than one of Spike's funerals. My father, a former leader in Detroit had the same experience, and even if you assume that Jeff was trusted, he wasn't, but even if you assume that he was, that doesn't forgive the others. Yeah you can come out and bitch and moan about "well ya stupid libtards, what did you do to get to know Chicago?" But thats not how things work. LA, LV PH AND NY all seem to be chatting away. Detroit even gets involved from time to time, but Chicago just wanted to do it's own thing. That makes people nervous, and sure Joe Bloggs slapping someone in the face might see Joe in the slammer, but this is the Mafia, and we regularly pre-emptively slap people in the face. If you are prepared to fuck around, you need to be prepared to find out... because the world is full of Simons, the world is full of Cunts, and the east coast is full of Cunts called Simon.

Chicago was more worried about creating a cohesive unit out of the patchwork provided to us through your own malarkey. Many of us didn't know or trust eachother, so we spent most of our time trying to correct that within our own walls. And slowly a lot of the more guarded personalities were starting to return to a regular life on these shores. We were working on rebuild coverage, creating competitions to share with America, and again actually trying to get to know eachother. Not everybody is hellbent on revenge, or absolutely obsesssed with you Simon. We just wanted away from your despondent ilk and whatever is happening on the East Coast.

This stood out to me because whoever that man was he was being earnest. (I have an idea) Nobody can deny after recent events the pathcwork was indeed handed to him. And more than likley this wipeout was slated to take place a good while ago. 

Can we all safely agree any new member that joins the two new trusted leaders in Chicago that Simon sent over will be penciled in to die because they cannot be trusted either? I mean it isn't like we have a long line of mobsters waiting to join this thing. 

Somebody hand EnrichoLives a tissue. He has a smudge on his nose. I am fresh out. 

I don’t really see this the way you’re presenting it. Saying Chicago was hit because there wasn’t enough trust or enough of a relationship there, I mean… that feels pretty thin as a reason for wiping out an entire leadership. Reading through it, it comes off less like necessity and more like a decision that had already been made, with the reasoning put together afterward.

Because from where I’m standing, this looks pretty straightforward — you wanted Chicago under different hands and you took the opportunity to do it. Essentially, if that’s what happened, fair enough, this world of ours runs on those kinds of moves, nobody needs to pretend otherwise. That’s not exactly new.

What I don’t really get is trying to wrap it in all this language about stewardship and managing risk, because that just makes it sound like you’re trying to make a power move sound principled. If it was a grab for Chicago, just call it that. Trying to wash it clean afterward is a coward’s move dressed up as statesmanship, and frankly, I despise that more than the hit itself.

If it looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit, its bullshit.

I couldn't recall a single conversation of note with any of them. 

As a Don in Las Vegas so concerned about the GFC of Chicago maybe you shouldn’t have been so anti-social.

Did you enjoy his news articles or did you bother to read them. Could have been a topic of conversation you could have hit him up with.

I approached the other families across the country with my concerns and found my own reservations echoed back to me.

Coughs choking on the smell of bullshit.

What families????

The same families or powers to be, that trusted him enough to set him up with Bella and his rogues.  Those weren’t his people, he was no offspring. They felt he was the best choice.

The same families he joined in neutralizing these rogues to the point he refreshed on Bella and missed the crucial shot.

The same families that gave him the opportunity to take GFC, controlling his city to only take it away because he didn’t talk to you?

Let's say Lebowski was trusted, does that automatically mean all those under him should be as well?

Well hell yeah. The Leader vouches for their members you have nothing to do with them. You had a recent Leader regretting housing a rogue.  NY just trusted the offspring of the members they had just killed in LA giving them a chance. 

Some of you created this Rogue Nightmare when you deemed some going rogue were justified.

STOP KILLING THE GOOD PEOPLE COMMITTED TO DEALING WITH THE BULLSHIT.

Matteo, if you would for just a minute, entertain the possibility that all of your "ifs" are just that: Hypothetical.  If I had a bushy tail, I would be a squirrel.  This isn't complicated and there's no reason to disguise it. Chicago wasn't trusted. It doesn't get much simpler than that. Given the city's recent history, I'd say there was pretty good reason not to trust them, but that's irrelevant.

It could be real or imaginary, but if the competition is not trusted, you remove them. That's how it goes and how it has always gone. There are no Kumbaya circles for mobsters. The tears here are pretty embarrassing. Seriously, you're embarrassing me. I can't imagine how you must feel.

Chicago was "to quiet." Sorry, We chased out the loud ones, the ones who rogued, the ones who actually did damage to your community.. They went to New York. We did nothing but defend ourselves and apparently that was to scary.

We were active in the main drag, where were you Simon? Not being part of the community there.. We we active in the lounges.. Again, Where were you Simon? You speak of communication like we were silent in the back rooms glaring at the Dudes party like the uninvited... Oh... wait, that was you. Silently moping in your mansion while the rest of us had fun. Yurei Earned the title Glitter Queen for being active in the Main drag. She was a new district leader scrambling to clean up after the Bella Mess, Why would she pester a GFC? Why would she reach out when she was still getting her feet wet?

So, Simon, Since Communication was so important to you.... Where were you? Certainly not trying to make connections with Chicago. Yurei's door was Always open and she chatted with several other leaders from outside Chicago. We'd have happily brought you over for drinks and a chat. But Sure, Chicago was "to quiet."

This seems to be a common theme: "Why didn't you reach out to US?". 

This reeks of spoiled children. What makes you so special that anyone should have to come to you?  Given what just took place, it appears Chicago was the vulnerable party and should have taken the initiative. You're suggesting that the more powerful parties cater to the weaker?

Pure narcissism and delusion. The entire Cosa Nostra national structure did not trust Chicago, and your response is..."You should have made a better attempt to communicate with us".

We did. Hope you enjoyed the whispers.

DickDickman,

If your answer to criticism is “tears” and “you embarrass me,” that sounds less like a serious man speaking and more like a man resorting to sneers when he has nothing stronger left to offer. You seem far more bothered by this than I am. No need to be embarrassed — if the criticism stung, perhaps it landed somewhere true.

As for your other post — calling people spoiled children, narcissists and delusional doesn’t strengthen your argument at all, it mostly tells me the criticism struck a nerve. You say trust was the issue, yet you scoff at the very thing that might have built trust. Communication. That contradiction speaks for itself.

Frankly, your own responses have said more for my argument than mine have.

You're suggesting that the more powerful parties cater to the weaker?

Now Mr Dick Dickman, you have me confused. Well actually I am almost in shock to hear such utter nonsense from you!  Please stop contirbuting to the Boredom Committe. I beg you! 

It looks like I am going to teach you. 

flips over to page one of the oldest diary on hand and suddenly slams the book shut

It's not worth my time preaching to the choir. You know as well as the rest of us it was a cowardess slimy power move. And you know what the furure holds. The stage has been reset. 

If I was among one of the fallen in Chicago, I'd make damn certain my kin did not return to be a temporary prop.  

So everyone else across this country of ours is blind to DetroitSimon, or Grin as most know him as, would stab them in the back at a minutes notice? Remember the last Chicago set up, after they were given their own city after leaving DetroitSimon and Interlude's Detroit? They were slain by their own allies..

So, everyone calling LV "allies" need to give their head a wobble. Simon has no allies, he's a bloodlining, purging little bitch who if you don't kiss his ass cheeks will have you on notice until he personally gets to have you killed. 

Good luck to the rest of you. One day someone will take him down, and lets hope that Little Simon doesn't rise as quickly again. MR was a lot better without his bitter, paranoid thoughts. Maybe a mental health assessment would be fitting to help with that schizophrenia he suffers from.

Frankly, your own responses have said more for my argument than mine have.

What argument is that, Matteo? I didn't see an argument. That was my whole point. You said "I don’t really see this the way you’re presenting it." followed by three paragraphs of speculation and an alternative version of reality that makes you more like a pious victim. I saw speculation crafted in a manipulative way to make feeble minds miss the "if" and assume the premise. That's why I said "IF I had a bushy tail, I'd be a squirrel". What I didn't see was any sort of argument - meaning a claim that is supported by facts and evidence.

You made no argument. You decided what you wanted the narrative to be and insisted upon it being reality, as if you knew what was in Simon's mind better than he did, saying "if if if". And as I said, there is nothing to disguise. How much easier could the explanation be?  Is it...

1. Chicago was not trusted;

-or-

2. This was a power move! lt was all part of an elaborate plot to auth Caveman.

Are you familiar with Occam's Razor?

Mayo - No kidding. Me either.

Mr. DickDickman would you care to respond to the rumors that CH was removed at the behest of the secret underground group known only as The Plumbers? 

If these rumors are to believed, the current leadership are nothing more than cardboard proxies for this shadowy cabal of evil doers; Manipulating politics and policy from behind the scenes. 

The people are demanding answers.