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Regarding Dakine Started by: LargeHamster on Aug 05, '08 18:04
Now as alot of you will have noticed Dakine was taken down today, yes I done it reasons for the company he holds coupled with the fact that he invited one of my members to his Family without asking my permission first.


All tagged Earners and Below from his family are safe if i catch you shooting you will see the same fate.

LargeHamster walks back into his HQ
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Same goes for my family - if earner or below and tagged they are safe - OR above gangster to earner untagged are safe
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Hmm... Can't say I didn't see this one coming.
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The Mocha Syndicate will be following that example. No shooting anyone who is unsponored and tagged and no one who is ranked over Gangster.
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"Well I never saw this one happening(!)"

Bunsen coughs and walks off
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I will be sending a mass mail to the members of The Java Cartel containing rules they must obey in regards to the recently unemployed members of DaKine's family.
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Just to set the record straight, I dropped from your crew before an invite was sent. The invite was sent by the LHM, not DaKine. I accepted the invite, then wrote to DaKine. DaKine asked me to send an apology for leaving without permission.


I am curious LargeHamster, as to why you told me that it was in DaKine's hands whether I live or die, when you already planned on killing him.
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Just to set the record straight, I dropped from your crew before an invite was sent. The invite was sent by the LHM, not DaKine. I accepted the invite, then wrote to DaKine. DaKine asked me to send an apology for leaving without permission.


I am curious LargeHamster, as to why you told me that it was in DaKine's hands whether I live or die, when you already planned on killing him.

Reply by: Tango at Aug 05, '08 18:35




You didn't see this coming? Really?


What did you think would happen when you just bought out of your HQ? They'd send candy and flowers to welcome you into your new home?


As for DaKine ordering an apology, that's all well and good, why didn't you send one?


A Mafia Family Head gets pissed off at a blatant show of disrespect from both you, and the people that took you in, and you're surprised... odd.


When you make someone LHM, you are giving them the ability to create or avoid situations much like this. Should I find an unsponsored Wise Guy asking me for an invite my first thought would probably be something along the lines of "what the fuck?" not "sure, why not?"


As for not telling you the truth, do I REALLY need to spell that out for you? Do you expect him to say "yes, Tango, I am very very angry at the moment and plan on shooting you and the leader that took you in... just give me an hour to wait for my enforcer's flight times." No. I don't think so either.
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OhCrap


I dont even have to read everything you have said to relise you have no idea what the not so LargeHamsters really like.


Did DaKine go and shoot up LargeHamster when he took his LHM right out of his family, most likely when he needed his trusted LHM most... no...


I thought we were trying to get past all all that bullshit, have better communication between the leaders so he went and talked to LH insted of start shooting right away...


All he had to do was read the message DaKine had left with him, and and reply and any problems could have been dealt with and they would have, all you had to do was maybe wait a little. (Sorry I couldnt be around for your sorry ass, some people are here actully work.)


But no, was probley to lazy to read the message and started shooting becuase he had a little temper...


Is this the kind of leaders we want... it makes me sick... I thought we were heading in a peaceful direction to better this place as a hole.


But there is no point for me to sit here and rant anymore, I got some stuff to catch up on. All Have to say is Large Hamster I wont blame you for anything, becuase I know how small your brain is "Like"...

DaKines throws LargeHamsters right hand a bag of dipers


Dont forget to change them, he might start slipping in his own shit someday, Ive seen his fathers do it before.
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Actually, I did send the apology. We talked. I thought everything was settled, and that it was up to DaKine to decide if I live or die (and I got that thought from LargeHamster, since that's what he said to me).


So just to fill you in, yesterday LargeHamster asked me to go to the coffee shop. I explain that it was impossible for me to do that (OOC: my computer freezes when I try). He asked me a second time to go to the coffee shop. I explained again that it wasn't possible. I asked if we could talk through mail. He told me my Made Man button was in. He asked me a third time about going to the coffee shop. I explain once again that I wasn't able to. He changed the subject, and we made small talk.


As far as I knew, the subject was closed, and I would never get Made, since I wasn't able to go into the coffee shop. I spoke to Rubiki about this, and told him I was going to retire. I dropped from the family, and Rubiki sent me an invite. I accepted. I wrote to DaKine to thank him. As far as I know, DaKine was unaware that I dropped without permission until after I was in his family. He told me to apologize to LargeHamster, which I did.


I spoke to LargeHamster this morning. He was upset that I left, and told me that "sooner or later" I would have been promoted. I explained that he never mentioned this to me the day before, so I assumed I would never get promoted within his family. He apologized to me for the misunderstanding, and told me he never wanted me to leave his family. I told him if I had known I would have eventually got promoted, I never would have left.


So yes, I am a bit surprised when an old family friend tells me he is sorry over a misunderstanding, then an hour later, an entire family is dead over it. Well, that and the fact that LargeHamster didn't like DaKine's friends.
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Giovanni was listening carefully as people gave their opinions and take on the nights events until something is said and he doesnt quite understand the reasoning behind it


"I spoke to Rubiki about this, and told him I was going to retire. I dropped from the family, and Rubiki sent me an invite."


Tango, that is the only part of your speech I cannot understand, why would you buy out of the family if you were planning your retirement? and If Rubiki knew your retirement was forthcoming why send out the invite to join his family?


other than that thank you for coming out and explaining your side of things.
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Giovanni_Moretti, I wanted to drop from the family and then retire. That was my personal decision. Rubiki didn't want me to retire, so he sent the invite.


If I had know people were going to die over this, I would have just retired. Well, people were going to die anyways, since LargeHamster didn't like the company that DaKine kept, and had made plans a week ago to kill him.
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In plain view, this is a genocide of the Pit Bulls...


May everyone who died rest in peace.
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To make the story short.


You fucked up. Your boss is dead. And now you're going rogue to "avenge" him for your idiot mistake.


Here's a thought, instead of saying "I can't come to the coffee shop", give an explanation. LH isn't a tyrant who will eat your face if you explain things rationally to him.


You fucked up. You bought out. You spat all over your former boss by doing so, and you just keep on spitting.
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Daera, I explained three times to LH why I'm not able to go to the coffee shop. I explained in detail (OOC: I told him my computer freezes up when I go into IRC and I have to reboot, I thought that was clear enough). Should I have drawn a diagram?


I'm not rogue, my boss is rogue. I didn't join to avenge my leader, I joined for my own personal reasons.


I didn't fuck up by buying out, I fucked up by joining another family. LargeHamster also said he had planned this attack for a week (long before I dropped from his family), so either way, DaKine was a dead man.


My only regret is that other people died because of this. If I had it to do over again, I would buy out then retire. Then LargeHamster would have to think of another excuse besides "I didn't like the company he holds." as an excuse to kill an entire family.


I realise that to most leaders, we are all just cash cows, here to make you richer, but this is my life. If my leader doesn't respect me enough to say "Hey, you can't get into the coffee shop, so it may take a few days longer before I can promote you.", then why am I suppose to show him respect?


As a leader, I'm sure my words are lost on you. I'm just a worker bee that is suppose to sit down, shut up, and do as I'm told. I knew there was a good chance that I would die. I'm ok with that. At least I wont die stuck in a family that lead me to believe I would never get promoted because I can't get into the coffee shop.
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You put your desire to be Made above your bosses wishes.


Congratulations, you're a selfish asshole. I guarantee with that attitude, I would have held you back from made too, only I wouldn't have made an excuse. I just wouldn't give you the button.


Made Man is not a fucking right, it's a privilege you EARN. Your boss decided you did not earn it. You decided your needs are more important than his.


And now your entire family is dead. Maybe LH WAS planning on taking them out before this, but hey guess what, it was YOUR selfish actions that precipitated this, so every single dead member of DaKine's family is on YOUR hands. Might want to start washing them, it'll take some time to get rid of all that blood.
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If your boss says get to the coffee shop you get there not matter what, without no questions.


Anyway she is where she belongs now swimming with the fishes,
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Frankiee walked to the scene of the argument a little late. She leaned into one of the by standers and asked what was going on. Quickly a reply was whispered into her ear. LargeHamster killed Dakine and his public speech was horrible. One of those magic acts again where he was in the streets instantly, maybe he used Alessia's special speed.

Frankiee immediatly started clapping towards LargeHamster


Wonderful speech Mr. Hamster, really, wow. I'm for one am very impressed. Please next time you greet us why don't you bring booze for everyone.


You and Alessia should enter rehab together. I've always heard when you have a partner you can stick to your goals easier.


Or maybe you should go back to school so you can learn how to sound like a well respected Don and not some dirty thug in the streets.


Either way, you done it. You done it good.

Frankiee smirks in the general direction of Hamster and walks off into the moonlight.
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LargeHamster you're a Joke... you could have easily talked to Dakine about it. But you used your guns instead.. DaKine was not a threat, are you that really afraid of him? hehehe this is total bullshit..
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Pa walks through the crowd willing to knock a tooth but decides it wont do anything to help...So he walks into the HQ...
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