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Conspiracy theory or mental illness? Keep me out of it. Started by: Squishy on Oct 23, '26 16:42

There is nothing more fun than waking up to a bunch of logs of toxic people huddled together, just hurling conspiracy theories.

When you accuse me of shit, please take a minute to realize you will be held accountable for the shit you say.

1) No, the CVE the site experienced was not faked - 70% of the worlds websites are affected by it.  I did not have the Dutch government shut down a chunk of their public facing government servers to help sell this lie so that I could reboot the server for 7 minutes and inconvenience some strangers on the internet.

2) I went out of my way to not get involved, the changes I made to the rebuild page yesterday were color.  I am sorry that you feel that I am out to get you because I made a box get outlined in red.  I shall do my best to provide you a safe space where the hue of a color would not violate your delicate sensibilities.

I don't care who wins a war, I do not care who is at the top or who is at the bottom.  But I will be damned if I become your scapegoat for your own failings.  Do better.

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Was it a glitch that prevented those who wanted to shoot without given auth?
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2026-10-19 03:19:02   12h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.86%
2026-10-19 04:01:01   24h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.93%
2026-10-19 06:12:02   36h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.95%
2026-10-19 15:06:02   48h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.97%
2026-10-19 18:35:01   72h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.98%
2026-10-20 15:45:01   12h CLOSES   94.87% ->  95.01%
2026-10-21 03:09:01   24h CLOSES   94.93% ->  95.00%
2026-10-21 14:43:02   36h CLOSES   94.95% ->  95.00%
2026-10-22 02:07:01   48h CLOSES   94.97% ->  95.00%
2026-10-22 05:06:01  168h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.99%
2026-10-22 08:29:02  168h CLOSES   94.99% ->  95.00%
2026-10-22 23:06:01   72h CLOSES   94.95% ->  95.00%
2026-10-22 23:45:01  168h OPENS    95.00% ->  94.99%
2026-10-23 10:26:02  168h CLOSES   94.99% ->  95.00%

 

Event Time Status
72h window first drops under 95.00% (4104/4321 = 94.98%) 10-19 18:35:01 verified
72h window reaches exactly 95.00% (4104/4320) and the tier closes 10-22 23:06:01 verifie

Precision is about ±2 minutes (inferred). The close itself has no rounding ambiguity (exactly 95.0000%). Before 09:49 UTC 10-23 the rebuild on/off check rounded to 1 decimal, so if crew space was not already keeping rebuild on, it could have counted 94.95% as 95.0 and closed 2 minutes earlier, at 23:04 - AKA 94.95% showed up as 95.00% and was colored as active up to 2 minutes late/early since there was rounding on the cosmetic side of the display.

Was there any time during the no-auth tier that people were unable to shoot outside of what did not match what the tiers show on the rebuild page? (Again, full disclosure, the 2 minutes when it incorrectly colored PENDING when it should have colored ACTIVE at 2026-10-22 23:06:01s showed the wrong color for up to 2 minutes, but I am not seeing any attempts that were turned away for lack of auth during this 2 minute window)
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When rebuild kicks in no auth required to shoot. Are you saying the job board coverage was good so that's why nobody could shoot without auth?

In all fairness most of the job board available are in the war. And if they knew keeping the boards lit up would cease the shooting is that fair to all involved in the war? Maybe not done intentionally but the mechanics to cease the ability to shoot without auth went in favor of one side of this war.
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Squishy I think what's been happening recently is auth hasn't been required as soon as rebuild kicks in. Maybe that was a bug which everyone took to be intentional.

So for a few months now as soon as rebuild turned on at the first stage unsponsered gangsters & goombas have been taking pop shots at CL's, or at least that's what I've heard.

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FatherJack https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/2471261

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CleanBandit, do you think that should kick while there is an active war? Keep in mind the war brought on rebuild.

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The way I understood it was that rebuild that's caused by no jobs/a refusal to do them is a "screw everyone" and kill all the current CL's type deal, while rebuild caused by the death of a bunch of CL's shouldn't screw them over if the ones still alive are still making the effort towards recruitment.

 

Not to say recruitment is any better during war, as identifying new players versus those returning looking to hold out until they can pro is difficult, but assuming the bar is set and new players can continue joining crews or doing job even amidst one is the whole idea.

 

War is already punishing enough being that everyone or a chunk of people are now dead; forcing universal auth every time shots are fired is counter-productive to takeovers and rather discouraging in a game about killing people, especially with how RATs and Durdens commonplace and the likes of those work.

 

That's just my thoughts though, the whole point is making sure new players aren't left in the shitter when us veterans throw food at each other.

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Surely the ultimate goal is to welcome newcomers. However, I will not bite in this instance for the mere fact a good many verterans don''t believe anyone is new unless they single handedly bring them on board. 

Can you answer the question?

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No, it shouldn't kick during a war. What's the point of coordinating shots if you can shoot anyone willy nilly? Also adds a level of protection to general players, you should be asking for auth to shoot higher people to begin with if you already aren't in that position. That's how the real mafia works anyway.

 

It kicked during the last one because jobs were nonexistent for like 7 hours, three straight at one point.

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There is a misunderstanding. I am saying war threw us into rebuild. Anyone can shoot. Suddenly the job board is looking peachy keen and now not everyone can shoot. 

That job board had no business taking the right to continue shooting in an active war. What it did was essentially hand over a total win. And have you seen the announcements on the new work on these shores? tis tis 

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Rebuild was modified in the thread I posted to no longer apply to that previous code change earlier that year if I remember right, where rebuild doesn't automatically equal free shots for all anymore since then. The job board didn't take that away from anyone, nobody had it to begin with until jobs fell apart. The universal auth gets removed when jobs recovered.

 

If you're referring to Aizen, he made himself a Wise Guy after joining a crew, that action pulled him out of the three rank minimum differential you otherwise needed to ignore auth, since he was no longer a Consigliere.

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Your memory is much better than mine CleanBandit, I completely forgot about that.

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