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The silence is deafening. | Started by: CarraigRealta on Mar 24, '13 10:01 |
voiceless [?v?sl?s]adj 1. without a voice; mute 2. not articulated voiceless misery 3.silent 4. without the power or right to express an opinion Now I am no great scholar, nor am I any great linguist (we'll leave that to TCOSL) but I do come here on these streets today with many questions. I fell off the boat on these shores, new to me but strangely familiar. I've read about this place, I've read stories of scuffles on the streets for possession of the 'soapbox'. I've heard of powerful figures clash on these streets, of people who could mount said soapbox and change opinion of hundreds of people across these cities. Stories of undergrounds rising, families falling. In fact the things I have read and the stories I have been told about this place are the sole reason I find myself here today. As I walk around though, the silence is deafening. The occasional squeal emitted from someone who 'might' have an opinion but 'might not' and even if they did they can't tell anyone and gangs of amateur dramatists on every corner. After days of searching I still can't find any sign of these great street leaders, who would stand with hundreds of people listening in awe and asking questions. In fact I'm struggling to find anyone who seemingly 'matters' who has actually got an opinion on anything. Am I wrong to expect to find inspiration on the streets? Am I wrong to want to listen to a leader speak and know why I want to join his family? Or am I supposed to shut up, accept one of the 8 invites i will get bombarded with even if I refuse to reply to the mails of the representatives. Why? Why should I join someone who has no ability to stand and speak to the masses, they obviously have difficulty communicating, they have no public opinion. Before I go I want to leave you with the first thing my great great great great granddaddy ever wrote in his journal... "1. Respect must be earned on the street" |
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What the fuck happened there? |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 24, '13 10:01 | |
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To an extent, there is nothing to speak about lately. Our world has been quiet, with every mobster going about his or her business. The Godfathers are content, most of their members are content. It's hard to come out and speak about things that aren't happening. Im sure they could address some smaller issues, but it isn't my place to tell them how to go about their business. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 24, '13 11:10 | |
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A foiled plot to takedown major families and the aftermath of these events wouldn't be something to mention? |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 24, '13 11:15 | |
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I'm with you one hundred precent. The Coffeeshops are detrimental to this way of life. I personally wish they would be totally unassociated with this thing of ours, but it shall never happen. People prefer easy access, fast gossip, and logs over anything else. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 24, '13 11:27 | |
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Where's Kuklinski when you need him? |
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Reply by: TheHumanCentipede at Mar 24, '13 12:07 | |
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I couldn't agree more. However, to Alexander, I would make but one small point. |
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Reply by: LilacDelaney at Mar 24, '13 12:20 | |
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If you had a petition to sign Miss Delaney, I would sign it. You can count me in on your push to stand up and show who we really are and what we stand for. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 24, '13 12:40 | |
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As long as it's clear I don't mean flashing from beneath a beige overcoat, then that's excellent to hear. |
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Reply by: LilacDelaney at Mar 24, '13 13:41 | |
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I'm honoured to get responses from two leaders but to be honest. Out of the 4 leaders I would have not aimed this at you are two of them. |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 24, '13 15:23 | |
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I'm newish, but have very strongly gotten the impression that talking in the streets is not a safe thing to do. At least not about anything of consequence. |
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Reply by: Insidieux at Mar 24, '13 15:41 | |
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And this is where my argument comes into play. Most are afraid to say anything for fear of what the upper structures might think or do. |
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Reply by: LilacDelaney at Mar 24, '13 15:52 | |
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Perhaps they're not upper structure enough. It'd be interesting to see more, but there is definitely a difference between talking and laying your cards on the table. I suspect even if there was more talking it wouldn't be real talk. This is a very risk averse society. |
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Reply by: Insidieux at Mar 24, '13 16:05 | |
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Insidieux, You can technically do or say whatever you want, so far as you're able to back up your words or actions. If you have power, pull, or most importantly respect, then you can do as you please until somebody decides they're capable of preventing you. That being said though, I'd be curious what makes you feel that way. I've seen people killed before for their remarks in our streets, but usually it's over some sort of blatant disrespect. I'm not implying that it never happens, I just don't know of any examples offhand. If you, or anyone for that matter, could cite a recent example of someone being killed for bringing a topic to the streets or offering an opinion I'd be curious. Disappointed as well, actually. |
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Reply by: TheHumanCentipede at Mar 24, '13 16:17 | |
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I can't cite a recent example of someone bringing a topic to the streets (unless you count what kuku does) so no one really could be killed for it. I definitely think there are opinions you could hold that would get you killed though. As for respect, what exactly is that? There are plenty of people who say questioning authority is disrespectful. Isn't bringing an issue to the streets itself disrespectful in that sense? |
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Reply by: Insidieux at Mar 24, '13 16:29 | |
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Well, there's bringing an issue to the streets and then there's bringing a topic to the streets. I think there's a difference. |
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Reply by: LilacDelaney at Mar 24, '13 16:40 | |
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Very well put Don Lilac. |
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Reply by: Satanta at Mar 24, '13 17:03 | |
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I could not agree more with those last few words, Satanta. |
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Reply by: LilacDelaney at Mar 24, '13 17:11 | |
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No, I most certainly was not counting Kuku, although while not my most popular of opinions, I've always been amused by some of his antics in the streets, even the ones that have targeted my own lineage. That being said, you'll even find some of his topic points to be very thought-provoking at times. To use him as an example though, Kuku does what Kuku does. He does so often knowing what the consequences will be. You'll find that unsponsored thugs that take to the streets to vent often spew the most venom because they have nothing to lose. They have the luxury of having no accountability for their words. The members of our society that do however might need to polish their words a little more. To Satanta's point, presentation is important. I think you'll find that most leaders would welcome an opportunity to discuss or in some instances even debate a topic if presented in a way that is at the very least respectable as opposed to abrasive. It's not imperative for a leader to eat shit from someone they don't have to for the sake of upholding the notion of 'free expression in the streets'. If we were in a world called PoliticiansReturns, things might be different. But it's not, and this is still the mafia where certain things are acceptable and other things can get you killed. |
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Reply by: TheHumanCentipede at Mar 24, '13 17:23 | |
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To throw an old cliche out there 'the pen is mightier than the sword' Ill used, or malcontent words have killed more of people than bullets over the years. If you approach a person, or topic with malice in your tone, you're more than likely to find yourself 6 feet under. The exception to that rule, a high powered mobster with the bodyguards, gun, or funds to handle the situation. |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 24, '13 17:23 | |
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