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| Goodbye, farewell, adios Thatcher! | Started by: Countdown on Apr 08, '13 12:06 |
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Well I guess you are a labour voter. Give yourself a pat on the back you managed to fuck our country up for generations. No doubt you will tell your children it was Maggie or the nasty Tories but if you do remember each time your children tell you a lie and you lecture them on telling the truth just remember. You voted to ruin our country it's firmly on your shoulders and you won't even make them accountable. |
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| Reply by: Isiah_Rhodes at Apr 12, '13 07:56 | |
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Well said Mr Rhodes.
I didn't write the following, a Gentleman named Steve Chilverton did, I just happen to agree with it 100% People on this seem to have a very strange view of history. So here are a few little nuggets with how and more specifically WHY a lot of industries were destroyed by her, and what's more, destroyed with the MANDATE OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE. The seventies were blighted by the trade unions waiting for winter and then coming out on strike at it's heart. Holding the country to ransom for ANNUAL pay rises of up to 36% ABOVE inflation. This was the likes of Scargill and co. And they bled us dry. We were bankrupted by them. And then the Winter of Discontent happened. And they ALL came out. Miners, power workers, transport workers; even funeral directors, everything tied into the TGWU came out. My own grandparents lay on a slab for 2 months waiting to be buried. The entire country was a ruin. Rubbish not collected for months, rats everywhere. And the unions laughed, and brought down Callaghan's Labour Government. And Thatcher stood up at the General Election and made ONE SIMPLE PROMISE. Elect me. And THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ELECT ME AND I WILL DESTROY THEM. She won a landslide. On that promise.And she became the last elected Prime Minister to actually hold true to her election promise. She did exactly what she said. She utterly destroyed the unions. Obliterated them. The cost was those industries. We knew that would be the price. But we would not allow them to hold us to ransom again. What she did, she did with our BLESSING. The socialists and people who backed those strikes have only themselves to blame for what happened. Baroness Thatcher didn't destroy those industries and communities for fun or as part of a class war. She did it to stop them holding the country to ransom again. And then she held the purse strings tight and re-built the economy and the country and Britain again stood tall and thrived. And we won back the global respect we had lost while the left wing ruled. In the Falklands we were thankful for her being in office. Those of us who went 'south' in '82 did so knowing we had a leader who would not - and did not- interfere. She sent the military and allowed us to do our job. Gave us the money, the equipment and most of all THE FREEDOM to get the job done. Our lands had been invaded. We had a gun up our nose. SHE led us. Frankly Thatcher took a very broken Britain by the hand like a strict old fashioned Matron and LED THE COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE IT HAD ONCE BEEN. We were the worlds 3rd major power in ALL respects. And as for the world, it has NEVER been safer than when Thatcher was in Downing Street, Reagan was in the White House and Gorbachev was in the Kremlin as the three spoke DAILY. They laid the ground for the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Russians were TERRIFIED of her. And the world again feared Britain. And lets not forget that she gave people the full right to buy their own council property. Her vision was that the TENNANT and the tennant alone could buy that property. As soon as her party stabbed her in the back the feeding frenzy began as under her the famous Tory grandee greed was held in check. So they stabbed her, led by the europro traitor ponce Heseltine - who didn't have the guts to face her openly and alone - they arranged her removal. And we have been a broken patsy for europe ever since. </span></p> |
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| Reply by: Raoul_Silva at Apr 12, '13 08:40 | |
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<font color="#000000">Where to start?<o:p></o:p></font> <font color="#000000">So much misplaced anger. Before you start going on a whimsical keyboard warrior rant do a bit of research and realise who you are talking to. I’ve just turned 24. I’ve only had the pleasure of voting once in the General election and like thousands of students at the time I voted Lib Dem because I think both the Conservatives and Labour are a shambles. </font><font color="#000000">Nice try though. </font> <font color="#000000">Using your line of logic, congratulations on voting Tory, seen as you managed to fuck up our industry for years and caused countless misery amongst the communities she destroyed blah blah blah blah blah. I hate to trot out the cliché, but opinions are like arseholes and everyone has one. There’s two sides to every argument. I’m glad you are passionate about politics, but that’s no need to be a dick about it is there? </font><font color="#000000">My Dad was from a former mining community and it destroyed the village. He wasn’t as effected because he had a job outside the industry, but he saw the damage that did and it’s misguided and naïve to assume that all her policies were good. I’m sure there were good reasons to close the mines down – doesn’t change the fact it fucked a lot of people over who are angry about it and rightly so. <o:p></o:p></font> <font color="#000000">Ultimately I’m too young and unaffected to be overly bothered. I won’t be celebrating her passing, but I won’t be mourning, and I’m not happy that my taxes are funding her funeral when we have the budget deficit. It’s a waste of money and I’d say that whether it was any ex-PM dying.<o:p></o:p></font>
<o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p><font color="#000000">PS: If your opinion is the standard Tory drivel is it any wonder that I’ll vote Labour next time?<o:p></o:p></font>
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| Reply by: Felix at Apr 12, '13 09:37 | |
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Post fail :( |
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| Reply by: Felix at Apr 12, '13 09:37 | |
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Read Raoul's post.
Industry was dying before the Tories came into power.
But hey ho vote labour in the next election. Then Ed Balls can borrow more money and more money and more money. Then not only will our children, our grandchildren and our great grandchildren be left with our debt but probably going back even further.
You assume because Im a Conservative I agree with all her polices, she made mistakes but in the main she made our country great again from the shambles she inherited. |
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| Reply by: Isiah_Rhodes at Apr 12, '13 11:46 | |
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| Sorry Felix, I don't mean to be an arsehole but I couldn't help laughing at this line ''I’ve only had the pleasure of voting once in the General election and like thousands of students at the time I voted Lib Dem because I think both the Conservatives and Labour are a shambles.'' Lib Dems not a shambles then? | |
| Reply by: FrancisPuccio at Apr 12, '13 16:38 | |
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| They're all a shambles. Monster Raving Loony Party ftw. | |
| Reply by: Countdown at Apr 12, '13 16:40 | |
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First of all i find it amusing you need an alarm to tell you if you're talking to a fuckwit. Shows how bright you are. Secondly you've turned this into a political debate about partys and what other partys have done. We all know that we'll never please everyone. My main gripe with thatcher is and with the police about The Hillsborough Disaster "The Hillsborough Independent Panel report, published last autumn, revealed Lady Thatcher's reluctance to endorse criticism of the police despite the government being aware of "damning" evidence of their role." No apology for more than 20 years for Cameron to apologise, who i cant stand but it wasn't his responsibly too.
She never cared when she lied, we don't care that she died. |
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| Reply by: NickyTheGent at Apr 13, '13 20:57 | |
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Thatcher and the majority of her cabinet were two nation, uncaring, spiteful low lives (a couple of notable exceptions). Thatcher herself misused the police and army, both of whom were involved in decidedly dodgy antics when she was in charge. Her policies devastated swathes of the country, and she deemed it necessary. For that, I agree with George Galloway: may she burn in hellfires (not that I believe such things exist). However, she died at a ripe old age and in as much comfort as is possible. And you know what? I didn't and won't be celebrating. If Pat Magee had have pulled the job off in 1984, the world would have been a better place. |
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| Reply by: Kuku- at Apr 14, '13 00:43 | |
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Lib Dems are a shambles, yeah :p, but they promised a lot of things at the time that looked like a nice refreshing change. Of course, as history shows they've then gone back on all the pledges they've made and they'll pay for it next time when they get no seats. |
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| Reply by: Felix at Apr 15, '13 11:04 | |
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