Duly noted, AlabamaWorley.

Aiding my argument? I'm merely keeping myself highly amused as usual, bud.

If you think Chicago will jump up and take notice of this and kill Lynch and Philly, you are very likely mistaken

Did I say they would, Alabama?

I know from a former NY leader that Bianca has taken members without even consulting that leader

Well I'm taking a random guess that since its NY its not TheSosa we're talking and since you said former I'd say its the random from Katherine's crew that committed suicide and joined Bianca? Am I warm yet? If not, would you kindly enlighten me? I have time to spare.

 Thank you loyal fans. <3

You may do as you wish Franky poo. Your threats of journals from half a lifetime ago to not worry me. Many things have changed since whatever words are written in your journals, and desires held now do not reflect ideas held while your grandfather lived. I have supreme confidence in my relationship with Mr. Harris and the other Godfathers of this world. Not to mention confidence in your tendency to attempt to stir the pot, and fail. Not long ago you were claiming journals of a similar nature to bring against Bianca and myself. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you might try it again.

Guiz guiz guiz.... WHERE IS DA LURVE?!?! WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE?!?! 

Can't we all just get along?

I applaud you, Gohan.

As for you, McLuvin. I will always luv da flea

RemyLeBeau does what he does best and loves McLuvin.

I suppose the good news is that the award for shittiest crew name is back up for grabs with "The Wankers" out of the running.

<em>Underdog stifles a yawn</em>

I love it when the bitter children of dead mobsters come out and threaten to start throwing mud around. What amazes me is that some of these bloodlines have actually made it to be crew leaders and possibly godfathers. Have none of you ever heard of Omerta!!!!!

<em>Underdog puts on a whiney voice</em>

Well I can get my journals out to show that you said this about him and that about her.

<em>Resuming his nornal voice</em>

Really, seriously, really are you fucking 7 years old? Are you still at school in a playground. Because I tell you what you fucking sound like it.

Well I'm taking a random guess that since its NY its not TheSosa we're talking and since you said former I'd say its the random from Katherine's crew that committed suicide and joined Bianca? Am I warm yet? If not, would you kindly enlighten me? I have time to spare.

If I wished to inform of the details, I would have done so already.

No, it wasn't anyone from Katherines family. I didnt say the person died, the person left their crew after being given Bodyguards by that leader and joined Bianca, solely at Bianca's request and Bianca didn't consult firstly with that leader. Under normal circumstances that person would be shot. I'm sure you agree.

So Alabama if I hear you correctly m'dear.

Someone walked out on a crew after being given bodyguards and joined Bianca at her request without talking to their past leader and without Bianca talking to the past leader and lived!!!!!!!!

OMFG what is happening to our world, does know one actually read the rules that I imagine are in every HQ.

the truth is normally i would of expected an example like alabama gave to end in a few swift bullets to the poacher, the person who left and members of the upper structure.  The truth of the matter is some matters come to the street and are waved away by some such as with vinco, other incidents left internal damage such as Biancas own crew unauthed shooting on their own as well as the retirements every city suffers.

Running a crew can be a hard enough job in itself in a challenging time for recruitment and development, running a city even worse and every eye is totalling up errors; watching whether an internal saboteur, an idiot, an ongoing problem and the time these problems take to fix.

Is always tragic to see death and can make people weigh up thier work and its worth but i guess is what breaths new opportunity in too.

Well this has turned into a bitch fest quite quickly. Well, I am not here to bitch, nor am I here to affirm points made by both parties, it just strikes me as odd that you ordered every one killed, not just them higher ranks and big guns, but lowly Goomba and Earner ranks too. Now if it was in the good old days, then I wouldn't have questioned it, but in this day and age where district take downs are easily done with the bigger guns taken out, that you resort to this. I mean, you mention how Bianca held up returning Frank Sinatra's district back to it's former glory as one of the points against her, and yet you destroy the whole of Bella Vista in one night, except for little turncoat cards that you give out to the select few. Strikes me as ironic really.

A power move due to a conflict involving people that can be counted on one hand, and a third of the city is buried. 

There is no irony here, none what so ever. While i agree somewhat of your sentiments, this kind of take down has become standard now, rightly or wrongly, it happens, across most cities. I’m not going to beat around the bush; ultimately it was our war or takedown, whatever ever you decide to grace it as, if we choose to keep a select few or we decided to decimate them all, that is our decision, Like it would be your cities decision to do it or not to do it. 

I’m not going to go over old ground here, but simply put, these people swore their lives to that district, made or none made. I can come out here and say we had to give our hitters what they train for when there is a takedown of this kind, who are you to judge, I’m not going to, as that would be rather arrogant, but that’s just the point you're missing.

Your point could be turned on its head, for those people who decided to run, not die by their city and found other homes, would you trust them to do the same thing should your city become under attack, does that set a good standard of trust for your newly member? This is of course is not my opinion, but it can be looked at like that, should you wish to do so. Subjectivity is the key here.

If i may be bold, for me, to many different districts outside of the warzone show too much interest, and not just our take down, but this is a common occurrence in a few of the past takedowns, that occur within an internal city. The gods saw it fit to try to separate our worlds into two, I’m a firm believer it should try to stay this way, where possible of course. 

Nonetheless, RIP to those who have fallen.

I see the line has formed to come and dance on the dead and that's all well and fine. You have the right, you executed the sneak attack and killed Bianca and her family, so enjoy the right you've earned to spread whatever tale you choose. But I will give all the perspective from the inside. 

My father came to this world and was taken in by Bianca. Shortly after, she made God Father rank and sent him to another crew. But, at that time she promised him if he worked hard and ranked up she would bring him back. Well he did, he worked hard, even though the crew he was in  was shall we say eh at best.One day she came calling, said pack your bags and be ready, I want you back but I need to talk to your leader first. So my father packed his bags and sat ready for three days till she could talk to his leader, because he was IA. Once she did, he rejoined her crew.

Now, you all I am sure have tales that would dispute her honor but that is just one small example of what a great leader looks and acts like. There was plenty of worthless trash that needed to be taken out in Philly for sure, it's just to bad none of it was last night.

There is no irony here, none what so ever. While i agree somewhat of your sentiments, this kind of take down has become standard now, rightly or wrongly, it happens, across most cities. I’m not going to beat around the bush; ultimately it was our war or takedown, whatever ever you decide to grace it as, if we choose to keep a select few or we decided to decimate them all, that is our decision, Like it would be your cities decision to do it or not to do it. 

Having one of the reasons to go to war as Bianca holding up the development of a district to then go and destroy an entire district because of it? Promoting growth towards Philadelphia, but then destroying a third of it? To me this ironic. You are basically acting out reasons for why you are going to war in the first place (albeit in a different manner).

I’m not going to go over old ground here, but simply put, these people swore their lives to that district, made or none made. I can come out here and say we had to give our hitters what they train for when there is a takedown of this kind, who are you to judge, I’m not going to, as that would be rather arrogant, but that’s just the point you're missing.

I know you said you weren't going over this, but I thought it would be best to say that I am not judging, I am just simply asking. Things bought to streets are there to be debated and spoken about, hence I am fulfilling that criteria.

If i may be bold, for me, to many different districts outside of the warzone show too much interest, and not just our take down, but this is a common occurrence in a few of the past takedowns, that occur within an internal city. The gods saw it fit to try to separate our worlds into two, I’m a firm believer it should try to stay this way, where possible of course. 

I know what you mean from this, but these take downs can have ripple effects that reach the other cities. I think it is just prudent to keep an eye on what the neighbours are doing, be it close or further away.

The difference being the quality of development, or more to the point the lack of it! Which is the reason for the take down, well one of them at least.  Would you rather have a district that’s full, but full of poor mobster folk who represent a poor standard of life, a standard that falls below par or one that is carefully nurtured by starting it up from scratch, giving it a chance of succeeding by breathing new life into it?

I for one know which path i would choose, and what action i would choose to make that happen, hence the takedown.

Insomniac.

You speak of things you do not know. I never gave any such order, to kill all members of Bella Vista. At first. We tried to spare all we could, allowed multiple people to live. A couple left the city, which does not surprise me, nor do I hold hard feelings to them. And a couple others joined up here, only to either duel each other, or take shots at us not long after. At this point I decided it wasn't worth the risk of trying to save a couple Wise Guys, and let the hammer fall. 

Drogan stood quietly in the shadows, taking long drags from a cigarette He had just finished rolling, taking everything in. His bloodline had a very large part in this, but after contemplating opening His journals to the streets, the thought of more blood being spilled over a few words seemed old, tiring, and even childish. It was time to let sleeping dogs rest.

Karma can be a bitch sometimes...

As He slipped back further into the shadows till all that could be seen was the bright orange glow from the end of His smoke, He whispered, "Rest in peace, Godmother Bianca, and you're welcome."

There was plenty of worthless trash that needed to be taken out in Philly for sure, it's just to bad none of it was last night.

"Bitter statement at best. I understand you being loyal to Bianca and maybe being a little upset, but to call the rest of trash is exactly the mindset that Bianca made us feel she had about us. Her actions and decisions showed that clearly. When all honesty, she was the one messing up in the position she was in. There was no one else but Bianca who screwed up her own chance. A chance that Gohan kept letting her have over and over again despite it upsetting some of the others involved in the city. I think that speaks a lot on Gohans part and that he was trying to be fair with her. While I was unhappy with her, he asked me to wait and let her have a chance to get her head together. She took that chance and pouched members, promising them auth or BGs. That much has been confirmed. That, no matter how you look at it, is bad business for our city. Along with most of the things she said and got upset about. I will never stand her and let someone hold a grudge on my members for what happened in another life a long time ago... Not who I am, and it will make me angry if it is involved in where my home is.

Insomniac, you clearly have zero clue about what our intentions were because it wasn't to slaughter every single soul from the district. Once our main threats were dead, we started to send out invites to save whoever we could because we didn't consider things as their fault for this war. It was something I asked for while Jack Carter, Gohan, and others agreed. I would love for you to call me a liar about this... We even went as far as to let people join other cities if we were approached, making sure they would be safe. But you think we are still just a bunch of savages huh? Yeah, because that makes any sense when our actions spoke differently?"