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| Internal Strife Within | Started by: Anarchy on Jan 08, '14 05:17 |
| I don't understand what would drive me? Hmm you say sonny wanted to be higher in the hierarchy while anarchy wanted full control! Me hmm what I lose a friend.. no more slanty suit. Not that I wanted it. So please Alex tell me! | |
| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 03:05 | |
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I just want you too see this Sonny, because since I have commented on this speech after you and Fedelta's response I have had prior members of Aaron approach me. I will not include their name because they are afraid of reprisal.
Seems to me some of the members were fine where they were. Now this isn't the only person that has come to me since. So obviously it was more a personal dissatisfaction with Aaron that made you run for cover. The fact that your even given trust after it is amazing, but to each is own. Granted this is really has nothing to do with me, but coming out and giving a reason is one thing, but when that reason changes then it shows maybe that there was more too it. Lying to the public is worse then not giving an explanation at all. Fedelta, your freaking out now and yelling at others. You said yourself that the reason you came out was to settle differences in original comments. You have done that, so you should expect people to react. |
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| Reply by: WiggleButt at Jan 09, '14 03:07 | |
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fedelta it doesnt take a genius to figure out sonny wanted to be higher in the hierarchy unless you need it to be spelled out. |
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| Reply by: Noob_Saibot at Jan 09, '14 03:09 | |
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Oh sweet lord. You think I am pissed because I am an idiot? No, my dear retarded Fedelta. I am pissed because you are one. I am pissed because you are an idiot who killed his own CL by staying quiet while Sonny, a man whose bloodline has already caused the death of another Staten Island Leader.... tried to get the man who trusted you with an RH suit killed. I am bothering myself with this fuckfest because someone HAS to. Otherwise, you just might think what you did was the right thing to do. |
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| Reply by: AlexMoran at Jan 09, '14 03:09 | |
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Look i'm going to end this right now, this was set in motion after ahwile of discussing it between his RH and LH. We saw his wrongs and decided to go with what we thought was best for the crew. We took it to people that mattered and they gave us the nod, after that we were only doing what was best for the crew and what we thought was right at the time. You can sit here and call it what you like as most of you it seems didn't even know the man and what went on in the HQ yet you bitch about our reasoning? And from what Telkin said earlier you're all lucky to even get a response from us, and even if you didn't you would probably bitch about that too. We did what we thought was best, the District Head did what he thought was best and got approvement. Now no matter what you think of it its finished with and over. |
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| Reply by: Sonny at Jan 09, '14 03:10 | |
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lucky to get a response? i would take both your word and that of anarchy's with a grain of salt first off. secondly i know aaron quite well and we talk often the fact that you stabbed him in the back pisses me off. and it is a spit in aaron's face that you miraculously become anarchy's rhm after that act of treachery that you pulled. in closing you are a power hungry treacherous swine nothing more. im done here. |
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| Reply by: Noob_Saibot at Jan 09, '14 03:17 | |
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"We took it to people that mattered..." Wow... *shakes his head* |
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| Reply by: Galvani_ll at Jan 09, '14 03:18 | |
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This is enough……….The topic should end here. I have my opinions and I asked a lot of people from our crew and some not and they all agreed that I should post this, they all backed me on this. I know this thread is bullshit, but hey I'm the one that was played, the crew was the one that was played. The people we looked up to, to teach us and lead us…..You think Aaron's at fault Sonny, seriously? How many crew members do you know that wanted to leave? Last time I checked more then half considered suiciding from the game. I may not be a great person, or a good person, but I would never play dirty to get what I wanted. At least I would never go behind the CL's back, not like that. I spent 20 mil, not on Aaron, on the crew. You know why? I actually believed in it. All that "motivation and enthusiasm" It was because I had something to believe in. It all got blown to shit and wasted. Was I too nice before / too fun, because I am no longer that person. Trust is something thats earned, not given just because of who you are. As Tessa said, as a hand you live and die by your CL…..especially despite any faults he/she may or may not have. This conversation, proclamation, excuse, whatever kind of pitiful thing you try to call it….it's done. The Crew has spoken.
OCC-P.S.-( Next time you want to know someone's past names Sonny, don't go running around behind their back trying to figure it out when they say they don't want to tell you and they lied about being new because they left for a SERIOUS problem. It's probably the worst thing you could do. MR isn't a serious problem, RL is.) |
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| Reply by: X-X at Jan 09, '14 03:27 | |
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| Sonny I see this word "we" thrown around a lot! By we I hope you mean you and anarchy because I didn't take it to people who mattered and get the nod. While YOU AND ANARCHY were running away finding a way to kill Aaron, I was trying to find the members of the family who wanted a home so they didn't die as well. | |
| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 03:28 | |
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Fedelta. Did you, or did you not admit to me that your crew was falling apart?
Here it is. If both hands trust their leader but their leader doesn't trust them. There is no leader. Simple. You cannot lead a crew and not trust your crew. You say that they betrayed him, they did not. Trust is, as stated. A two way thing. All that Aaron provided was a slanty suit and told his two men who he's suppose to trust that they must trust him yet he doesn't have to trust them. |
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| Reply by: Anarchy at Jan 09, '14 03:43 | |
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I couldn't agree more with mister Moran anymore then I am now. You both were hands and swore loyalty to mister Mckeever and now he is dead and you are not. Fedelta, it would seem you're the more innocent one in this matter. You actually had pre-aranged something before with Atrocity regarding leaving mister Mckeever, no? Sonny though, Sonny it would seem just openly plotted against his crew leader, the man who trusted him to be his third in command, his left hand man. Judging by what the former members of The 40 Thieves are saying.. It would seem Sonny was the bad influence here and NOT mister Mckeever? Irony. All I see here is a brutal betrayal by a power hungry member to someone who needed a reason to shoot. While I don't know Anarchy well, I don't think his intention was for blood - But he had the option to remove his ONLY competition because of Mckeevers hands mucking up. |
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| Reply by: DanTheMan at Jan 09, '14 03:44 | |
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Really Fedelta? You had a part in this as much as I did. And it's pathetic for you to turn around all of a sudden and put the blame on me, WE both talked about this and YOU brought most of the issues to me and thats how I made my decision. When I said I was bringing it to others to get it dealt with YOU not once told me not to. Only thing you were worried about is leaving the family atleast I had the balls to do something about it rather than run away. And yes I came out here and took it like a man no matter what people told me and yet you sit here and try to blame it on me to make yourself look anything less than what people are saying... |
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| Reply by: Sonny at Jan 09, '14 03:45 | |
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| Those were your words anarchy. I never said it was falling apart, I said I was tired of the crew and was going to talk to Aaron about leaving for Detroit, your next reply said why? I told u I was unhappy, didn't know what was going on, and didn't feel like I was trusted. Your next reply was that Aaron was dieing because you sonny, and some godfather decided so. So don't try and pin it on me! | |
| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 03:49 | |
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Anarchy would pin the letters exchanged between him and Fedelta on a Billboard
To: Fedelta You know I'll have to kill him for this, right? To: Anarchy Yes I agree.. To: Fedelta I wouldn't talk about it. You seem annoyed. Sonny seems really pissed off about stuff. Your crew is pretty much falling apart it seems. |
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| Reply by: Anarchy at Jan 09, '14 03:51 | |
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Goblin walks the streets and happens to stop by to see what all the talking is about. He listens to everyone's side. He clears his throat to get the attention of the people standing around. Its to my understanding, that this is the mafia.. This thing of ours.. Also If i'm correct, we all have to go through a ceremony to induct us into this thing of ours. That being said, at that ceremony we have to repeat the following. "As burns this saint, so will burn my soul. I enter alive and I will have to get out dead." Aaron entered alive and now is gone, rest in peace. Yet, you both still stand alive.. Goblin tips his hat to everyone |
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| Reply by: Goblin at Jan 09, '14 03:52 | |
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| Did I not already explain that the "issues" were only a test Aaron wanted done to test your loyalty.. As we can see you failed the test... As did I! I admit we were both wrong but my intentions were to talk to Aaron while YOU went and collected an army to kill him with! | |
| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 03:52 | |
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| I'm sorry anarchy but it seems those are fake my words were yes I understand not agree! So dont act like those are my words when you like to change statements! | |
| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 03:55 | |
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Fedelta, we both know what you said and those were your words. You can go and try and convince the masses of your innocence but you played your part and you were also a deciding factor in what I did.
Don't try and sugar coat your words and try make a Crew Leader a liar on something benign as this.... |
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| Reply by: Anarchy at Jan 09, '14 03:58 | |
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I'm not making you a liar I'm simply pointing out that you are a liar. And, no offense but why do I give 2 shits about what the masses think of me? You and everyone already knows I have left a sour taste in their mouth so please before u try and accuse me of something take time to know what your talking.about. |
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| Reply by: Fedelta at Jan 09, '14 04:03 | |
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You talk as if I don't know what happened at all Fedelta..... This annoys me quite a bit seeing as I was directly involved....
Although, Sonny fully admits that he went to me, you, however. Are still attempting to play innocent when as stated you could of done something about the situation, you were fully aware what was going to happen and chose to save your own behind, now, yet again.
You're attempting to make yourself seem innocent. You're just proving that the biggest snake of them all is yourself, Fedelta. Sonny admits to what he did. You're just blatantly denying it. |
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| Reply by: Anarchy at Jan 09, '14 04:11 | |
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